Early Dragon Age 2 reviews were manipulated: Press insider spills all.

[Throwitawaynow]

When you mentioned Black Ops, I laughed. Like a game with as large of a fan base as CoD would need to fake reviews to make a profit. They go for most sold game every year, go back to the /v/ boards.

Edit: Really? Copy and paste posts?

http://social.bioware.com/forum/1/topic/141/index/7145086/2#7145357

 

[MiracleOfSound]

And I'm looking at you Escapist.

The Escapist's most watched series, ZP, tore Dragon Age apart.

The early reviewer clearly loved the game, as did I and a whole lot of other people. I even had someone accuse me of getting paid by EA to make the Dragon Age song... these conspiracy theories are chuckle worthy and the truth is simply that not everyone hated DA2 like the angry shouters on Metacritic.

 

[Sethzard]

I swear the most of the panning was from the denizens of /v/ who just troll everything. I personally enjoyed it despise the constantly reused areas without even bothering to change the maps. The combat was pretty reasonable and the game was overall enjoyable.

 

[Di'kut]

And I'm looking at you Escapist.

The Escapist's most watched series, ZP, tore Dragon Age apart.

The early reviewer clearly loved the game, as did I and a whole lot of other people. I even had someone accuse me of getting paid by EA to make the Dragon Age song... these conspiracy theories are chuckle worthy and the truth is simply that not everyone hated DA2 like the angry shouters on Metacritic.

I don't really give a fuck about Dragon Age 2 or whether reviewers were paid to make the reviews, but The Escapists review of the game had a fair share of inconsistensies that points at it being either poorly written or, as a matter of fact, paid. I'd link you that thread which pointed it all out, but considering your posts tone, you probably won't see reason anyways.

 

[Catchy Slogan]

Is it that hard for some people to believe that some of us actually liked Dragon Age 2? I'll admit it isn't without flaws, but people act as if it's bringing about the apocalypse.

I pretty much agree with MiracleOfSound.

 

[Anah'ya]

And I'm looking at you Escapist.

The Escapist's most watched series, ZP, tore Dragon Age apart.

The early reviewer clearly loved the game, as did I and a whole lot of other people. I even had someone accuse me of getting paid by EA to make the Dragon Age song... these conspiracy theories are chuckle worthy and the truth is simply that not everyone hated DA2 like the angry shouters on Metacritic.

I don't really give a fuck about Dragon Age 2 or whether reviewers were paid to make the reviews, but The Escapists review of the game had a fair share of inconsistensies that points at it being either poorly written or, as a matter of fact, paid. I'd link you that thread which pointed it all out, but considering your posts tone, you probably won't see reason anyways.

Or maybe, just maybe, the game wasn't as fucking bad as the loud-mouthed population of the Internet (read: the minority of consumers) make it out to be. I am a consumer. I loved the game. Should have written a review about it and slapped it all over the Internet, maybe folks would have told me I'm "paid off" too.

Now, if folks would please move on to the next band wagon of hate *points towards the ridiculous rage over Valve and their DLC*.

 

[More Fun To Compute]

You shouldn't trust any review source that scores games and is listed on metacritic because they are not working for you, buddy. In other news, the Easter bunny doesn't exist.

 

[AlternatePFG]

The games been out for over a month now, and still no end in sight for all the arguing over whether the game was good or not.

 

[Flamey]

And I'm looking at you Escapist.

The Escapist's most watched series, ZP, tore Dragon Age apart.

The early reviewer clearly loved the game, as did I and a whole lot of other people. I even had someone accuse me of getting paid by EA to make the Dragon Age song... these conspiracy theories are chuckle worthy and the truth is simply that not everyone hated DA2 like the angry shouters on Metacritic.

I don't really give a fuck about Dragon Age 2 or whether reviewers were paid to make the reviews, but The Escapists review of the game had a fair share of inconsistensies that points at it being either poorly written or, as a matter of fact, paid. I'd link you that thread which pointed it all out, but considering your posts tone, you probably won't see reason anyways.

Or maybe, just maybe, the game wasn't as fucking bad as the loud-mouthed population of the Internet (read: the minority of consumers) make it out to be. I am a consumer. I loved the game. Should have written a review about it and slapped it all over the Internet, maybe folks would have told me I'm "paid off" too.

Now, if folks would please move on to the next band wagon of hate *points towards the ridiculous rage over Valve and their DLC*.

I don't hate the game. I just found it mediocre and underwhelming for a Bioware RPG.

 

[iamthelizardqueen88]

Screw most of you DA2 is fucking awesome yeah sure it was the single greatest story ever but the story was still quite amusing and so was the gameplay in fact as of today i just finished my 2nd playthrough of it (now for the rouge and ive beaten it with all 3 classes)

PS. Fuck Fenris the jerk =P

 

[EvilPicnic]

I don't really give a fuck about Dragon Age 2 or whether reviewers were paid to make the reviews, but The Escapists review of the game had a fair share of inconsistensies that points at it being either poorly written or, as a matter of fact, paid. I'd link you that thread which pointed it all out, but considering your posts tone, you probably won't see reason anyways.

Yup, accusing contributors to this site of journalistic moral bankrupty and then dismissing out of hand any possibility of response. That's a really fair-minded, balanced, and not-at-all-hypocritical argument you have there, pal.

 

[shadowmagus]

Wow. Does anyone really give a damn anymore? I mean, I think everyone has pretty much made up their minds about this game. I mean, this is like the constant harping on CoD and I despise that game. Can we talk about something else? We've seen the numbers wherein Dragon Age 2 sold less then DA:O, so the message has been sent to EA and Bioware. The horse is dead, passed on, and rotted and people still beat it like the game came out yesterday. Give it a rest.

 

[RikPandachan]

And I'm looking at you Escapist.

The Escapist's most watched series, ZP, tore Dragon Age apart.

The early reviewer clearly loved the game, as did I and a whole lot of other people. I even had someone accuse me of getting paid by EA to make the Dragon Age song... these conspiracy theories are chuckle worthy and the truth is simply that not everyone hated DA2 like the angry shouters on Metacritic.

I don't really give a fuck about Dragon Age 2 or whether reviewers were paid to make the reviews, but The Escapists review of the game had a fair share of inconsistensies that points at it being either poorly written or, as a matter of fact, paid. I'd link you that thread which pointed it all out, but considering your posts tone, you probably won't see reason anyways.

Yes, Yahtzee tends to tear things apart, BUT he is justified in doing so.

 

[KuwaSanjuro]

This is why I don't believe a word of what is said by consumers who choose to review a game, Reviews are subjective (except for ZP which chooses to specifically target the faults of a game). Look at Metacritic where Portal 2 is one of the best rated games of all time but look at the user score, that is people who think they deserve an opinion and use it to simply have a go at a game or a developer a PS3 exclusive will have a low user score because of Xbox fanboys and vice-versa, its all about flaming just like you're doing. Its much easier to have a cynical view on a game reviewer being corrupt and that's why they gave a game you love a low score or why they gave a game you hate a high score. I thought Dragon Age Origins was fantastic, I thought Dragon Age 2 was fantastic. All about opinion. End Off.

 

[Anah'ya]

I don't hate the game. I just found it mediocre and underwhelming for a Bioware RPG.

You are entitled to your opinion. Everyone is. That's the bad thing about the Internet, because people will throw their negative opinion (as you have done) of something into the faces of unsuspecting masses. And those masses are usually consistent out of sheep.

A "good" opinion is one that is balanced, but sadly the current trend (and now I am looking at you, Escapist) is to blatantly disregard and disrespect the work of others and do whatever possible to drag them down.

People should remember that your average human will take more from seeing, experiencing and hearing something bad, than from anything positive and reinforcing. It is in our nature to do so, and the Internet and the dreaded word of mouth is beginning to tick me off something fierce.

Was Dragon Age 2 a good game? Yes.
Was Dragon Age 2 a flawless game? Fuck no. There is no such thing ([small]Except Thief and Thief, the Metal Age *looks about shifty eyed*[/small])
Does it deserve the slandering and kicking and badmouthing that it's getting? No.
Does it deserve to be praised to the heavens? No.

I could write up a whole boatload of criticism for Dragon Age 2, but it would be a shit practice to pretend it's the end of all things RPG from BioWare or that BioWare has sold themselves to the devil. I understand, and that is where most people trip over, that I am not entitled to get the perfect experience out of something I think would be best, because I am not the person slaving away on the game.

Now for a very personal opinion, which I would, of course, never force on anyone:

Dragon Age 2 was neither mediocre, nor underwhelming--unless you go through it with half your eyes closed and half your brain shut down of course.

 

[Canadish]

And I'm looking at you Escapist.

The Escapist's most watched series, ZP, tore Dragon Age apart.

The early reviewer clearly loved the game, as did I and a whole lot of other people. I even had someone accuse me of getting paid by EA to make the Dragon Age song... these conspiracy theories are chuckle worthy and the truth is simply that not everyone hated DA2 like the angry shouters on Metacritic.

Sorry, read your post, made me think of Dragon Age Origins...
Have to do this...

But yeah, if indeed true, the news puts a lot of people in a bad light.
The Escapist being one. It's their review quote that's stuck all over the marketing.

And to think. A mod threatened to ban me for even suggesting this might be the case
Surely this opens the idea of false reviews for discussion?

 

[Di'kut]

And I'm looking at you Escapist.

The Escapist's most watched series, ZP, tore Dragon Age apart.

The early reviewer clearly loved the game, as did I and a whole lot of other people. I even had someone accuse me of getting paid by EA to make the Dragon Age song... these conspiracy theories are chuckle worthy and the truth is simply that not everyone hated DA2 like the angry shouters on Metacritic.

I don't really give a fuck about Dragon Age 2 or whether reviewers were paid to make the reviews, but The Escapists review of the game had a fair share of inconsistensies that points at it being either poorly written or, as a matter of fact, paid. I'd link you that thread which pointed it all out, but considering your posts tone, you probably won't see reason anyways.

Or maybe, just maybe, the game wasn't as fucking bad as the loud-mouthed population of the Internet (read: the minority of consumers) make it out to be. I am a consumer. I loved the game. Should have written a review about it and slapped it all over the Internet, maybe folks would have told me I'm "paid off" too.

Now, if folks would please move on to the next band wagon of hate *points towards the ridiculous rage over Valve and their DLC*.

This is where all of you blind Bioware fanboys go wrong, you do it like the staff on the Bioware boards and take every negative word as a knife in the gut. The game wasn't perfect, nor was it horrible, I'd put it somewhere in between, but it was nowhere near good enough for a 5/5 as it got on The Escapist, and the review was, as I just said, generally poorly written and full of inconsistensies. I thought it'd be obvious by the first part of my post that I don't really give a fuck about the games quality or anything, but whenever the confidentiality of that review is brought up, you go on and try to defend the game instead of the review.

Anyways, thank you for proving the last part of my previous point correct at least.