Easily solved Plotholes that annoy the hell out of you
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The script has... uh... jimmy Stewart's character in the room, apparently just off screen at Kane's death.HannesPascal said:
If you don't have time to respond to those videos, why would you have time to respond to any other laundry list?Sutter Cane said:
Does it say that they went directly? I don't remember that. Additionally, the only indication they might know they're being tracked comes from Leia, which is while Han's celebrating.
Already addressed, but I'm pretty sure the bounty hunter scenario doesn't explain it. Honestly, unless they did establish that it was too late, this is a plot hole. And kind of annoying.
Even the dark side has no power to match civil contractors.
But seriously, it's a new design. I'd also point out that the threat of a new Death Star brought out a massive fleet that would have been slaughtered if some of the most hated Muppets ever hadn't helped the rebellion. So basically, "bait" would conceivably be enough of an explanation.
That's not really a plot hole.
Except it isn't gone in the EU and I'm positive it won't be gone in the new trilogy, not to mention I seriously doubt Lucas had planned three trilogies only for the third to be completely devoid of the principle villain of the first two.The Rogue Wolf said:
If you think about the time needed to move that entire rebel base from their base on Yavin 4 to Hoth it's quite probable that that's the first opportunity Han's had to bail. Additionally Han's conversation with Greedo has him explaining that he has the money or that he can get the money, it's pretty clear that he assumes Greedo is either trying to take his ship for himself (which he does try) or that it's a threat. However after committing to stay he encounters a bounty hunter that he states changed his mind, presumably because putting out a hit on someone who had to ditch cargo on a smuggling run (which is apparently pretty normal) is hugely disproportionate.Zachary Amaranth said:
The implication is that shit got real and the second he has a chance to stop and weigh up his options he decides to head back and pay it off. The implication is also that Jabba is being far more of a hard-ass over losing his shipment than Han expected him to be. From context it seems like sending bounty hunters out to comb the galaxy over a shipment ditched to avoid customs is basically a huge over-reaction on Jabba's part and not one Han seriously expected, like if your boss pulled a gun on you after you broke a few plates at a cafe, you'd maybe expect to be told off or fired but not to be attacked.
That is the consequences on cutting out all the interesting bits from the book, I suppose. Seriously screw the OotP film.The_Kodu said:
OT: X-Men: Days of the Future Past. All you had to do is give one sentence, maybe a paragraph to explain why Ellen Page suddenly has this time travel power. She didn't have it before, and she's still using the powers she does have in this beautiful intro sequence. Where the hell did this come from?
Admittedly, I did like the explanation they gave for Wolverine going back in time, even if it falls apart because rapid regeneration doesn't stop an instant death from being an instant death.
It's not so much a "plot hole" as plot induced stupidity, but...
Persona 4. Just explain your involvement in the case to Dojima, from the beginning, and have a TV nearby so that, when he is rightfully suspicious, you can back up your claim with a demonstration.
There, I just prevented the entire 3rd act of the game. I get that a JRPG isn't a JRPG if it doesn't have a competence zone limited to high school kids, but P4's instance of this was hilariously forced.
Persona 4. Just explain your involvement in the case to Dojima, from the beginning, and have a TV nearby so that, when he is rightfully suspicious, you can back up your claim with a demonstration.
There, I just prevented the entire 3rd act of the game. I get that a JRPG isn't a JRPG if it doesn't have a competence zone limited to high school kids, but P4's instance of this was hilariously forced.
No matter what, though, Wolverine will perfectly regenerate as long as a single cell of him remains. The only way to kill him is to disintegrate him, even though I doubt the movieverse ever explored this concept. Brain death results in just laying there until his big toe builds another brain.Evonisia said:
For the people talking about Anakin bringing balance to the force not only did he fail but the only time he ever came close was when he wiped out the jedi but it wasn't balanced then because the dark side ruled the galaxy. Both the light and dark sides are natural parts of the force neither of them are unnatural. Him wiping out the dark side wouldn't be bringing balance at all since no dark side would be unbalanced the only way to have balance is to either have the light and dark be equal which neither side would ever accept or make everyone neutral which will never happen.
But new one, Dragon Age: Origins. Tell the government how the Grey Wardens work and they won't kill all of you. If Duncan had taken the time to explain that grey wardens not only can totally sense the archdemon with no room for error and that only they can kill one permanently then Loghain would have never let them get killed off. Alistair even says that everyone assumed Duncan was guessing when he sensed the Archdemon, DON'T LET THEM ASSUME SHIT, SET THE DAMN RECORD STRAIGHT. YOUR SECRETS AREN'T WORTH KEEPING IF THEY RISK YOU LOSING. The Grey Wardens are already distrusted because of the previous coup attempt so they needed to make their position unassailable with vital information. The secretive bullshit helps no one not even the wardens. The wardens should be telling every ruler of every country so shit like this does not happen.
But new one, Dragon Age: Origins. Tell the government how the Grey Wardens work and they won't kill all of you. If Duncan had taken the time to explain that grey wardens not only can totally sense the archdemon with no room for error and that only they can kill one permanently then Loghain would have never let them get killed off. Alistair even says that everyone assumed Duncan was guessing when he sensed the Archdemon, DON'T LET THEM ASSUME SHIT, SET THE DAMN RECORD STRAIGHT. YOUR SECRETS AREN'T WORTH KEEPING IF THEY RISK YOU LOSING. The Grey Wardens are already distrusted because of the previous coup attempt so they needed to make their position unassailable with vital information. The secretive bullshit helps no one not even the wardens. The wardens should be telling every ruler of every country so shit like this does not happen.
The first one isn't a plot hole. Something not being shown isn't necessarily a plot hole, and given the movie we're talking about, it's safe to write off him getting back and getting into Gotham as him being the god damn Batman. The second one is weird (sort of. He was trying to rally the city behind him because he couldn't take them on on his own), but not a plot hole. Again, this is Batman. Setting up the Bat Signal on the bridge is one of the more believable things he's capable of doing. You'd have to actually be specific about Talia, but I can't remember any major plot holes there. Him surviving the blast if he ejected in time is completely believable, especially since a pure fusion device exploding would produce dramatically less radioactive fallout than a conventional nuke. And it's not that impossible for no one to have noticed him ejecting. Most of the city didn't know they were safe, did know the streets were controlled by Bane and his men, and may even have heard the gunshots from the fighting and stayed the hell inside. Would you notice if a pilot ejected within view of your house right now? I'm guessing probably not. The only confusion results from the sequence being pretty poorly edited together admittedly, but it's still not a plot hole.Orga777 said:
Well, the station was still under construction, so when it was done there wouldn't have been as single exhaust port a torpedo could fly down.Sutter Cane said:
On a related note, Why does the Empire suck so much during the battle of Endor? Their fleet outnumbers the rebel fleet by something like 5 to 1, and that's just counting capitol ships. The fighter to fighter ratio would have been even more lopsided. Even without the death star laser, the imperial fleet should have wiped the floor with the rebels within an hour.
On the ground, a legion of the empire's finest troops has one damn job: Guard a big ass bunker with maybe two doors. And they can't even do that right. Instead, they allow themselves to be distracted by muppets with stone age tech enough that they open the door and let the rebels in. Because they totally wouldn't have had time to do that AFTER the battle.
Any competent commander would have pulled down ever tree within a mile of that bunker and had enough artillery and machine guns guarding that bunker to make D-day look like a walk in the park.
Apparently the answer is: The imperial officers are pants on head retarded and got their commissions out of a cracker jack box.
Amazing Spiderman 1:
It's the classic Hollywood-mandated villain STUPIDITY that upsets me in this. Our hero's nemesis/teacher, Prof. Lizard is just about to unleash his final plan. All it requires is for him to reach the top of the building across town and set off the device. Cue the entire city being transformed into an army of super lizards and victory is assured.
So...why...why on EARTH does he decide to rampage through the city, trying to convert individual people into lizards with gas grenades? This is surely the kid of shit an underling would be shot for pulling:
a) You've just confirmed you have a weaponised lizard-making gas, so everyone better wear masks or evacuate
b) You've exposed yourself to Spiderman/soldiers/Police/Vigilantes/you name it...Now everyone will be closing on your location and will be trying to kill you.
We've established already that Curt Connors is intelligent, driven and - most important of all - has a bloody good knowledge of the sewer systems! I appreciate that it would destroy the drama, but surely he would have just strolled nonchalantly through the tunnels to the deployment zone, then climbed up and fired the device? Chalk one up for the villains with little effort
Surely it would not have been hard to include some simple plot device that drove him out of the sewers? For example after his plan is discovered (because all villains leave their ultimate plot as a slideshow-screensaver when they're away from their desks) Parker could somehow flood/block the sewers, thereby forcing Connors to cover the last 200 yards above ground.
There you go, Hollywood! Plenty more ideas where that came from. Where's my job offer...?
Executive Hole Closer.
(I'd like a high billing on the credits, please....)
It's the classic Hollywood-mandated villain STUPIDITY that upsets me in this. Our hero's nemesis/teacher, Prof. Lizard is just about to unleash his final plan. All it requires is for him to reach the top of the building across town and set off the device. Cue the entire city being transformed into an army of super lizards and victory is assured.
So...why...why on EARTH does he decide to rampage through the city, trying to convert individual people into lizards with gas grenades? This is surely the kid of shit an underling would be shot for pulling:
a) You've just confirmed you have a weaponised lizard-making gas, so everyone better wear masks or evacuate
b) You've exposed yourself to Spiderman/soldiers/Police/Vigilantes/you name it...Now everyone will be closing on your location and will be trying to kill you.
We've established already that Curt Connors is intelligent, driven and - most important of all - has a bloody good knowledge of the sewer systems! I appreciate that it would destroy the drama, but surely he would have just strolled nonchalantly through the tunnels to the deployment zone, then climbed up and fired the device? Chalk one up for the villains with little effort
Surely it would not have been hard to include some simple plot device that drove him out of the sewers? For example after his plan is discovered (because all villains leave their ultimate plot as a slideshow-screensaver when they're away from their desks) Parker could somehow flood/block the sewers, thereby forcing Connors to cover the last 200 yards above ground.
There you go, Hollywood! Plenty more ideas where that came from. Where's my job offer...?
Executive Hole Closer.
(I'd like a high billing on the credits, please....)
Catherine: Vincent gets involved in the plot by virtue of drunkenly cheating on Katherine with Catherine. He then neglects to tell Catherine he's basically in the process of getting engaged with his long-time girlfriend until after the point where she's become emotionally attached to him, causing them both grief. This is after him saying, shortly after their first encounter, that she'd tell her as soon as possible. Could really easily be solved by him trying to bring it up and Catherine going as psycho as she is prone to do on him about something else, dissuading him.
Stole this one right out of my mouth. It's even worse.balladbird said:
At one point you explain the situation to him, of which he is reasonably suspicious, whilst sitting about three paces from the TV. Even if he tried to restrain you by force, you'd be able to get to the TV and stick your hand in it before he'd get to you.
But that begs the question why did the Empire bait a trap for the Rebels before at least making the new Death Star's reactor secure? It's claimed to be fully operational, yet they leave a giant superstructure weakness, exposing the reactor core (or whatever it is the Falcon shoots to kill it). Why not wait a month, and make sure the rebels can't pull off a last second explosion, because your reactor is no longer accessible form the outside?Dalisclock said:
All right, let me try.Sutter Cane said:
How exactly do you "blockade" an entire planet? What does the trade federation has in it for them in doing so, and how do they think that they can get away with doing so AND murdering the jedi envoy of the parliament in plain sight?
because, quite frankly, unless you were to post a 50 page essay on the subject, it wouls still take considerably less time to consume than RLM's reviews. On top of that I don't particularly like his Star Wars reviews. They miss the mark on their criticisms far more often than they it them, and are straight up factually wrong on several issues (such as when he claims the federation blockade doesn't fire on the ship after artoo fixes the shields). When it coes to prequel criticism the "What if Episode I/II were good" videos are much better. Also i really hate the attitude some star wars fans have where they post RLM's videos as if they're some perfect criticism of the films, and ae completely irrefutable (once on this very forum I mentioned I enjoyed the prequels and someone responded to me by posting RLM's phantom menace review to "correct" me. The poster actually said it in those terms too).
Yes, Leia directly says "they're tracking us". Han doesn't believe her, but it still doesn't make much sense for leia to guide them directly back to the secret base when she knows they're being tracked
Yeah, that one wasn't really a serious criticism. I should have made that more clear
I know it's not really a big deal, but I still don't think it makes much sense. You kind of have this giant, not particularly mobile creature just kind of sitting in a cave on an asteroid without easy access to food. I'd say that if criticism of the geology of naboo is valid, this should be too.
Lucas changed many things over the years, and while certain things from his original plan did end up in the prequels (the republic falling to politics and corruption rather than some sort of outside threat), many other things did not. On top of that, one of the things I actually agree with RLM on, is that you can't really bring in knowledge of the EU into discussions of the movies, because those things aren't in the film. We also know that prior to the sale of disney there weren't any intentions to make more star wars films after episode 3, so to me it seems a bit odd to be bringing in hypothetical films into this discussion. Even if the new movies have dark side force users in them (which they very probably will), the story just becomes that the prophecy was wrong, rather than the prophecy talking about anakin equalizing the number of light side and dark side force users,as by the end of the OT there is 1 Jedi and there are no Sith.
The Clickers pick you up if you move too fast or sprint. You can move at a walking pace and they won't find you. Of course if they bump into you they'll notice you.ObsidianJones said:
They also don't seem to notice other infected. Bloaters also have this blindness yet their noises and heavy footsteps don't attract the Clickers or other Bloaters at all. Water doesn't do anything either.
A large number of ships and a means to track when they are approaching the planet or attempting to leave the planet?Emanuele Ciriachi said:
Presumably they'd be trying to get lower or nonexistent taxes on trade routes. As for the second question, the answer is simple: They'd get away with it the same whay they did in the actual events of the film. They blockade and straight up invade Naboo, and while they didn't succeed in doing so, they attempted to kill the jedi, and in the end Sidious/Palpatine's influence manages to get them off as we see in AOTC.