EDIT: No Russian

[urilukin]

I just realized. When the US finally debts themselves into oblivion, guess who will be the new global superpower?

Spoiler: FUCK YEAH!

You guys don't have the military or the economic stability to do this.

Have you ever heard of a joke? and look at America and its glorious economic stability with its huge-arse debt.

I can understand that it's a joke and I wasn't meaning it as a serious answer... And even now, America has a much better economy that much of Europe, minus Germany, and our military is still the most prominent, best trained in the world. I'm not saying that because of my American bias, I'm saying that based on the operations they've completed. Special Forces units? Navy SEALs, Army Rangers, Marine Expeditionary Units, Marine Force Recon, Deltas, etc. They have all completed missions with extraordinary success. Russian Special Forces? Spetsnaz. Beslan Massacre? Tragedy. Definitely not befitting of a special forces unit. Yes, Spetsnaz have some badass training programs and they're taught to fight with a shovel (which is pretty fuckin awesome if I do say so myself) but that's all for naught if you can't manage to covertly storm a building.

America does not have a better economy than Europe... and the only reason America has the biggest military is because they spend 99% of taxes on it.

You can believe that if you want, but a large majority of taxes go towards fixing infrastructure, paying of government people, and I believe Welfare. It's definitely not 99% of the budget. And right now, America does actually have a more stable economy than a large portion of Europe. And I actually mistyped when I wrote prominent. America has the most widespread military. I believe it's China that has the largest military as of this moment. However, numbers all equate to jack when you're better trained. I know of operations in Afghanistan where we insert about 12 Rangers on the top of a mountain and they take potshots at insurgent forces 10 times larger than them. It normally ends with a sunset exfiltration and a bunch of dead terrorists. This whittling away can easily be done on a larger scale, but it depends on the training they're given.

Sure, buddy whatever you say.
http://www.usdebtclock.org/
whatever you say...

Oh yes, trust a non-government website about how much spending Americans do. Obviously civilians are told exactly how much money goes where and to whom.

Dude, other way around. don't trust the GOVERNMENT about their spendings. And compare http://www.usdebtclock.org/ to any other debt clock it checks out.

I'm sorry, but I trust the Government to know what they're spending money on over the speculation of arrogant civilians any day. While I do take most things the government says with a grain of salt, I find that they're usually more correct that some random person on the internet.

Fact is that this debt checks out, you want something official? Fine.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/business/8296079.stm
http://content.usatoday.com/communities/theoval/post/2009/10/620000005/1
http://usdebt.kleptocracy.us/
http://www.brillig.com/debt_clock/
There, the BBC,USA today and all other debt clocks display the same debt.
Do you believe me now?

Just to make it clear with you, I'm not doubting the debt. I'm doubting your "proof" that the Government spends 99% of taxes on military research and spending. I know America's in debt, by quite a lot.

Well i know that not 99% percent of your taxes go to fund the war it is an exaggeration 36% of your tax dollars are spent to fund the military and that is A LOT of money. And if you count past military that equals 54% more than a HALF!!
http://www.warresisters.org/pages/piechart.htm

Just to make it clear with you, I'm not doubting the debt. I'm doubting your "proof" that the Government spends 99% of taxes on military research and spending. I know America's in debt, by quite a lot.

So is that why you said that the US has a better economy than Europe?!

 

[FourEyedGamer]

Did anyone here not get the purpose of the "No Russian" mission or the Russian attack on NY or the attempt of the Russian President, of all people, at a peace conference AND his failure at doing so?
It was all MAKAROV'S FAULT! He wanted people to think Americans attacked Russia indireclty by that massacre and leaving behind the undercover US Agent. That started the whole thing, right?
Then, the Russians took it seriously and started attacking directly. The US just tried to defend and the SAS tried to stop the chemical warfare while Price tried to stop Makarov instead.
The massacre was the first offending act over Europe, a framing of the US. The kidnapping of the Russian president and the nuclear missile launch codes were an unofficial advantage tried by Makarov, so that all the big guns were drawn out by everyone. Makarov's goal was WW3, so that he would remain and somehow get all the remaining power, but then they rescued the President and Price went on his revenge/suicide quest and I won't give anymore details cause then I'm going into spoilers.
The reason why Russian soldiers are used as the target practice is that Russia actually attacked the US after that massacre. The reason why they are used is Survival mode too, is unknown.
The point is, Makarov wanted a war, didn't get a good one, but he did create a conflict.

 

[urilukin]

Did anyone here not get the purpose of the "No Russian" mission or the Russian attack on NY or the attempt of the Russian President, of all people, at a peace conference AND his failure at doing so?
It was all MAKAROV'S FAULT! He wanted people to think Americans attacked Russia indireclty by that massacre and leaving behind the undercover US Agent. That started the whole thing, right?
Then, the Russians took it seriously and started attacking directly. The US just tried to defend and the SAS tried to stop the chemical warfare while Price tried to stop Makarov instead.
The massacre was the first offending act over Europe, a framing of the US. The kidnapping of the Russian president and the nuclear missile launch codes were an unofficial advantage tried by Makarov, so that all the big guns were drawn out by everyone. Makarov's goal was WW3, so that he would remain and somehow get all the remaining power, but then they rescued the President and Price went on his revenge/suicide quest and I won't give anymore details cause then I'm going into spoilers.
The reason why Russian soldiers are used as the target practice is that Russia actually attacked the US after that massacre. The reason why they are used is Survival mode too, is unknown.
The point is, Makarov wanted a war, didn't get a good one, but he did create a conflict.

Didn't you read the opening post?! i said that "No Russian" was a bad example! we already covered that in http://www.escapistmagazine.com/forums/read/9.304300-No-Russian?page=1.