Hm, let's see. I don't have wi-fi and I don't have a usb cable that's long enough.
This effects me in no way, Sony! Haha~
This effects me in no way, Sony! Haha~
[Edit] Sony Plans to Make Used-Game Buyers Purchase Online Functionality
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I don't know why this idea is so hard to get. A used game sale takes the place of a new game sale. If a game is resold three times, the publisher makes money from the first sale, and misses out on three potential new game sales. They make a quarter of the money they would on four new game sales. Less profit for the game makers = less games made and less willingness to take a risk on projects.Mouse_Crouse said:
In some instances you would be practically repurchasing the game if you bought the multiplayer for the same price as you paid for the retail game. Very few games already implement this system besides Mortal Kombat and a few others, and quite frankly I think it's a great idea, I wasn't trying to stretch the truth.cursedseishi said:
Maybe the idea of purchasing multiplayer could be implemented in the future so if you simply wish to buy the singleplayer portion of a game you wouldn't have to pay a full 60 dollars.
considering he way used games sales work and how much developers are being ripped off i think your arguement is flawed, they arent raising prices, they are ensuring that they get some money when the games are sold used. frankly i enjoy this system since i rarely ever play multiplayer online because i hate other people in games when i cant reach over and slap them when they curse in the same way i breath.nohorsetown said:
I don't know, The Escapist does have quite the effect on the game industry though so I'm sure Yahtzee's critiques, Extra Credits' ideas, and other things have had a useful impact on their mindset.Stammer said:
So PS3 players will now have to pay Sony, to play Sony games, as opposed to paying some random third party (gamestop) that has nothing to do with Sony, to play Sony games?
I literally cannot see a problem with that.
I literally cannot see a problem with that.
well its nice to see how readily people bend themselves over the barrel for sony...is it any wonder they do this crap? this aint the 90s, and developers arent scrounging for food stamps because their poor little publishers arent making enough money. sony and others are seeing what they can get away with given the expanding profit margins of the industry, both in how they screw over us and their developers. that aint an insult, their a business, thats what they do, but what so few people seem to realize is the ONLY thing that keeps a modicum of quality in any product released by big companies like sony is customers maintaining a standard of our own for how shitty something can be before we refuse to buy it. if we pay every little nickel-&-dime scheme they come up with, why the hell would they ever stop coming up with them?
an increase in sales by these kinds of methods doesnt result in better products in the future; it results in CoD sequels and the 2nd transformers movie. sony didnt come up with its orwellian security methods because it was a poor, struggling publisher...remember that. better games are made because you demand better games, not because you paid an extra 10$.
an increase in sales by these kinds of methods doesnt result in better products in the future; it results in CoD sequels and the 2nd transformers movie. sony didnt come up with its orwellian security methods because it was a poor, struggling publisher...remember that. better games are made because you demand better games, not because you paid an extra 10$.
The reason why the game industry is so uptight about piracy is that the only way for games to make revenue is through game sales.Irridium said:
Movies make money with DVD releases and theater screenings
Music has CD sales, itunes and concert tickets
Car companies have their own used car dealerships
Unless you have a super huge series like Gears of War where you can sell toys and books then only way you get money from a game is if people buy it.
Know what else also only makes money through sales? Every other god damn product. Know who else is complaining about used sales? Nobody else.G-Force said:
And car companies have their own used dealerships? Then why don't games have their own used game stores? They might not be able to have physical stores, but do you know a platform that does not have a used market? PC.
PC doesn't have used sales. What if, say, EA implimented a used-sale system into Origin? Where you buy a game, play it a bit, then re-sell when your done with it for, say, half the price. You get credit to buy a new game, and you'll be less stingy with your spending since you know if you don't like something you can re-sell it, and EA can take those re-sells, and sell them as "used" copies for, say, $10 less than the new copies. That way they'd get all the sales, and all the money. And it may even help against piracy. People will be more willing to buy if the game is cheaper, and if they know that they can re-sell it.
And besides, used sales is one of the few consumer rights gamers still have left. When you read something like this [http://www.gamersbillofrights.org/], it proves how shitty the industry(well, the PC industry, but it seems consoles are heading that way as well) is.
In any other industry that list would be the most basic level of customer service and human decency. But in the games industry? It's more like a "wow, look at that list. Whoever wrote it must be some kind of loose cannon!" And it was Stardock that wrote it, in case you were wondering.
Just god damn unbelievable.
Can't blame bank robbers, they do need the banks money.kebab4you said:
That's what you're saying. The game companies are entitled to NONE of the money from used sales. They sold the game new and then it became the customers game and when the customer sold it to their game store, it became the game stores game and when the game store sold it to someone else. it became their game.
My god people, the reason EA and Sony even think they can get away with crap like this is because there are so many gamers who say "well, the game company should get money from used sales". No, they shouldn't! Stop encouraging this behavior.
Before anyone says "but this is online support", because the game disc has to be in the drive to start the game at all, then there is still only one copy of the game per person playing online. They aren't loosing money because the person who bought it new sold it to Gamestop and another person bought it and is playing it online. The first person can no longer play online, it's 1:1.
Its like Crono says, the companies are just squeezing the extra penny out of you. If server support costs are so damn expensive, they should figure that cost into the game when they sell it the first time and not when its used. Or just do what the MMO's do and set up subscriptions, but not this. This is going too far.
PC gamers aren't worried about used game sales as much as that industry is going the way of digital distribution. When you eliminate the physical copy then you eliminate used game sales. Steam sales are borderline ridiculous with the savings they give players and no one is morning the loss of discs when you can be playing awesome games for less than 10 bucks.Irridium said:
Sure you're right other companies only make money off of product sales but the used item market for them is so small that it barely makes an impact. Do you think over a million people buy used George Foreman Grills or any other high profile items? The reason why game companies don't have their own used game dealership is that they would be competing against Gamestop which is not feasible. Gamestop has the used game market on lock down and competing against them is financial suicide.