Educating Annoying Ignorances

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Major_Tom

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Those stupid "Top 100 unexplained or whatever" lists annoy me to no end. Containing such jaw dropping questions like "Why do kamikaze pilots wear helmets?" or "Why do they execute criminals with sterile needles?". Ugh. Also old wives' tales. No, mother, I'm not going to die if I go out with wet hair.
 

BonGookKumBop

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What ignorance drives me crazy? "Carbon"

Ignorant people around the world are trained to run in fear every time they hear about "carbon emissions." I'm tired of hearing, "everyone knows carbon is destroying the planet." To illustrate, I give you an actual anecdote of cringe worthy carbon ignorance.

Once, a friend of mine noticed that my wife had left a Mother Jones magazine on our coffee table. His interest was peaked since he was a political science major, so he began to leaf through it. One of the articles was about the perception of the US in other countries and one of the points of the article was that the US pollutes more than it should. My friend looked up and said, "we should outlaw all carbon." For my friend's sake, I quickly changed the subject, but I have have often wondered about the fact that our centers of higher learning have entire curricula devoted to training young adults for public and political careers and this is what they're turning out? Are these people really going to try to lead us with this level of ignorance?

Now, if you don't understand why this drives me crazy, let me explain. All life on Earth is carbon based. Carbon is an element on the periodic table of elements. You can not create or destroy carbon; the amount of carbon on this planet is set and it can not increase or decrease due to the things we do in our daily lives.

Sure this is only semantics, but even if he had used the proper term and said, "we should outlaw all carbon dioxide," he still would have grated at my nerves. You see, all living things produce carbon dioxide when they use energy, even trees, they just store more energy than they use, so they consume more carbon dioxide than they produce.

Even if we allowed normal life functions and banned all other sources of carbon dioxide, we'd still kill most of the humans on the planet. Most of the heat generated to cook our food, warm our homes, and make products we use every day comes from combustion; unless you're burning pure hydrogen, you're producing carbon dioxide. Are our leaders truly going to propose going to a pre-fire technological state just to eliminate carbon dioxide emissions?

Now I understand that people don't want to destroy the planet and I applaud them for that, but I do wish they would understand what they were talking about before getting passionate.
 

Major_Tom

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Knife said:
As an ex-soldier who happens to be a marksman..
Most people are not.
...I can hit a fist sized object from 50 meters away or a torso sized object from 300 meters away easy. Or twice smaller objects if they're immobile.
And this compares with shooting a handgun in a stressful situation, on a street, surrounded with innocent civilians, how?
Knife said:
standard bullets don't usually stay in the body
That's why the police uses hollowpoints, which can also over-penetrate (depending on the calibre) but that's less likely when shot in the torso.
Saltyk said:
#3. Just because you shot a person in the leg, that doesn't mean it will stop them. Especially if they have a gun.
Knife said:
You seem to be contradicting #2 - it might kill them but not stop them?
This is the point, it won't stop them immediately, but could kill them later (bleeding). Completely opposite of what we want.
 

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Major_Tom said:
Knife said:
As an ex-soldier who happens to be a marksman..
Most people are not.
...I can hit a fist sized object from 50 meters away or a torso sized object from 300 meters away easy. Or twice smaller objects if they're immobile.
The man was trying to say marksmen can't make the shot or won't bother because it's too hard.
To reiterate "In either case shooting a person in the leg even with standard guns or rifles for anyone who passed shooting practise should be no problem - and if they can't, they have no business being a soldier/cop to begin with.".
Major_Tom said:
And this compares with shooting a handgun in a stressful situation, on a street, surrounded with innocent civilians, how?
You'll find that shooting is usually done in a stressful situation, so they don't get a pass for that. And I already pointed out that it should be a clear shot or it doesn't matter which bodypart you shoot, knee, torso, arm or head - in the sense that it is quite possible to accidentally hit innocents nonetheless. But shooting a limb instead of a torso might save one life (not a guarantee but a possibility).
Major_Tom said:
Knife said:
standard bullets don't usually stay in the body
That's why the police uses hollowpoints, which can also over-penetrate (depending on the calibre) but that's less likely when shot in the torso.
Saltyk said:
#3. Just because you shot a person in the leg, that doesn't mean it will stop them. Especially if they have a gun.
Knife said:
You seem to be contradicting #2 - it might kill them but not stop them?
This is the point, it won't stop them immediately, but could kill them later (bleeding). Completely opposite of what we want.
I already pointed out that situation is unlikely on both counts.

Edit: Hollow-points eh? Those are banned in most armies... it is rather disturbing that police uses these. Different applications I suppose, but still quite inhumane.
 

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Major_Tom said:
Those stupid "Top 100 unexplained or whatever" lists annoy me to no end. Containing such jaw dropping questions like "Why do kamikaze pilots wear helmets?" or "Why do they execute criminals with sterile needles?". Ugh. Also old wives' tales. No, mother, I'm not going to die if I go out with wet hair.
I get that kamikaze pilots need to protect their heads until it's time for impact, but I don't get the needles thing. Why do they use sterile needles?
 

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Climate Change.

I do a course which focuses quite heavily on climate change and the stupidity of people astounds me.
 

lacktheknack

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Innovation == something new

Nope, that's "invention". "Innovation" is taking something that exists and doing it differently and/or better.

Narbacular Drop was the (really rough) invention, Portal was the innovation.
 

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My ex-boyfriend actually thought the term "ignorance/being ignorant" meant the same thing as "to ignore", i.e. if someone is not interacting with you or doesn't respond to what you say. So if someone was ignoring him, he would describe them as "ignorant". So yeah, he was ignorant about the meaning of the word ignorance. No matter how many times I explained this to him, it never managed to sink in.
 

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launchpadmcqwak said:
people who think screamo is the same as metal...IT AINT!
Fucking this

Also people who think screamo is the same as post hardcore, or people who just think that anything with screaming in it is automatically screamo.
 

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OniaPL said:
Oh, wow; what age is your auntie? I was always under the impression that Finland was always generally very accepting towards the fairer sex from what I've read. Would love to visit some day.

OT: Person I just quoted reminded me of mine: whenever people here (in Northern Ireland) can't seem to, or outright refuse to grasp the fact that the popular Russian name "Anya" (or Finnish/German/etc. variant, "Anja", or the Polish variant "Ania") is a completely different name to "Enya", and especially "Áine". I have been plagued with people reading my name off wrong in school roles and such in the past, pronouncing it "On/Awn-yeh", or generally people seemingly not hearing me correctly, since I was no age.

It especially irks me whenever I'm in a crowd and I'm being summoned one way or another. Oh, hurrah; now everyone here thinks my name is Áine. Cheers. It's pronounced "Ah-nya"! AHH!! Like that! Americans don't bug me with it as much because I know it's just the accent when they say something in between "Anya" and "Enya", like here:

It's from 0:40-01:02

Ironic considering he's supposed to be Russian.

Áine = Irish name meaning "Fire" or "Joy". Pronounced "On-yiah".

Enya = Irish name meaning "Little Fire". Pronounced "En-Ya". Funnily enough.


Anya = Russian/Hebrew name meaning "Grace/Gracious". Pet form of/derived from the names "Anna" and "Hannah". Comes from Hebrew origin as well. Pronounced "An-ya". Funnily enough.

Speaking of names, I think New Zealand has the right idea with bannin*^ certain, ahem, 'names' to call one's child. Who in the right mind thought naming one's child after numbers and punctuation was a good idea exactly? "Harper-7"? "A-a" (pronounced "Ah-Dash-Ah", apparently. I would have said "Ahh"; FYI, oh-so imaginative creator of this wonderful name; the dash is known as a hyphen)? Really? Do you actually want your poor child to be bullied?



* http://www.theglobeandmail.com/life/the-hot-button/new-zealand-bans-odd-baby-names-no-more-lucifers-dukes-or-kings/article2102204/ - Apart from being the name of the Devil, at least it's an actual name. I mean, you could always shorten it to "Luke"; not that I'd name my child "Lucifer", mind you. A couple of names in the article are fine. Like Elvis and... okay, maybe just that. The rest are. NOT. Names. Jesus CHRIST. If someone can't name his/her baby PROPERLY, they should be allowed to even have one. Sound harsh? So is naming your child something like Brfxxccxxmnpcccclllmmnprxvclmnckssqlbb11116. Pronounced "Albin".

robot slipper said:
A lot of people in Northern Ireland tend to use the term colliquially as a synonym for the word "rude". I haven't the foggiest why. So, I suppose, with your given example in particular, it could be used like that here. I don't tend use the word "ignorant" synonymously with the word "rude", anyroad.
 

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The only one I can think of it's people believing hispanic is a skin colour. You can say it's an ethnicity, but not a skin colour since we are really diverse (mom's a white woman with blond hair, dad's a light-brown skinned man, and all our heritage comes from Spain with a few exceptions).
 

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Talshere said:
Climate Change.

I do a course which focuses quite heavily on climate change and the stupidity of people astounds me.
I know that there is ignorance on both sides of the debate, but I am curious if any particular ignorance annoys you more.
 

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Honestly mine are mostly about misconceiving or ignorance on fandoms. I couldn't give less of a damn if someone were to either be disgusted or ecstatic when I mention my hobbies (involved in fandoms) but it's WHY they react that strongly.

Generally uninformed people I have no gripe with, it's the ones that are uninformed AND spout shit about said things they're ignorant about that annoys me greatly.
Example: guy asks me about my hobbies, I mention drawing, and that I usually draw furry humanoid creatures, FIRST FEW things they ask are either: 1. oh are you gay or like to have sex in a bunny costume? or 2. Does that mean you fuck your dog?
...wat *facepalm*

I can't say the fandom has helped it's own reputation well, but please do some research before you accuse the other person of bestiality =/

also with my little pony: friendship is magic the same phrase can be applied:
don't judge the cake by it's decorations.
or don't rate the game before you play it
or...you get the idea.
Don't spout shit about the show before you've seen it.

sorry for rant.
[also old people who ask what I study, can't blame em, but having to explain in one too many sentences what a "game designer" do can get really annoying]
 

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Connor Lonske said:
Not tech related, but people who think pansexuality is the same as bisexuality(it's not), or those who haven't heard of pansexuality and are like "what" or "that's stupid"
I've had this explained to me before and I still don't understand how the two are so wildly different that they need to have completely different terms. If anything, it goes to show that sexuality is too ambiguous to fit into rigid terms. Where do you draw the line?

BonGookKumBop said:
My friend looked up and said, "we should outlaw all carbon."
CUT DOWN ALL THE TREES!!! ALL OF THEM!!!!!!!
 

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Aidinthel said:
Intensive purposes. That is all. *twitch*
That's a thing in the US i guess? Never heard it here in England, I'd hate that one to catch on here, but everybody I've ever heard say has gotten it right.

OT: Tech related incidents mostly, not knowing the basic parts of a computer or how it functions at all (the least you could do is know how the shit you rely on on a day to day basis works on a basic level, it's quite interesting and makes you appreciate what you are actually holding in your hand when you use your phone etc.).
Worst one I've ever heard: Wouldn't your iPod get really heavy if you put all those songs on it?
 

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Urgh76 said:
One that seems to have an actual affect on me almost daily is the ignorance of people not being able to understand that although a show has been made for small children, if it's extremely well made, we can all enjoy it immensely

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>w>
I find that claim hard to believe, if it's for small children and you enjoy it that is wrong.

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:D
 

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thaluikhain said:
I don't mind intensive purposes, in that I remember much mocking of a guy who said that while trying to impress us with his write wordy skills.

Generally, eh, I could care less.
That is some successful trolling there, I almost went for it.

OT: The main thing that bothers me at the moment is being grammatically incorrect.
 

Hipsy_Gypsy

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Jaeke said:
In guitar class my teacher said:

"Its a damn shame they don't play classics anymore on the raido. I used to design pieces for movies and other media and all they want is all the techno and dubstep stuff."

ME-"Damn right. Man i wish people knew their stuff, i don't understand people anymore. They need to play the good stuff."

Teacher-"I know, the good stuff, like Blink 182, Greenday, the classics..."

Me-/quadruple facepalm followed by smashed guitar.
Oh my Lord. Educate your teacher by making him listen to Jethro Tull; Rainbow; Bob Dylan; Deep Purple; Ritchie Blackmore, etc.! What age is your music teacher? Or nonono; if he wants classics, it's Beethoven and Mozart!