Educating Annoying Ignorances

[imnot]

I know nothing about popular music and cars.

What I hate however is people who confuse hacking with guessing a freidns facebook password.

 

[wottabout]

I can relate to that. I dont like when people say that anime is only made in Japan or asian countries. Thats probably because one of my favorites is French.

I can relate to that. I don't like it when people think that manga isn't manga unless it was made in Japan. Frédéric Boilet might be French, but his comics give me more of a manga feeling than many Japanese mangaka.

And let's not forget that the only really established meaning of the word manga is "comics." Not "big-eyed comics," or "comics read right-to-left," just "comics." So when I get into an argument about that kind of thing, I tell people that. And add "So when I say that the word "manga" can be used about this comic, I've got over one hundred million Japanese people who agree with me. You think you know this stuff better than the entire population of Japan?"

While "manga" means "comics" in the context of the Japanese language, in my experience the word "manga" is almost exclusively used by English speakers to mean "Japanese comics." I think that, at a certain point, this meaning might become (or might have already become) widespread enough to be taken as correct in English, regardless of its original Japanese meaning.

In my mind, this is more of an issue of opinion. As much as I love many non-Japanese animesque shows or non-Japanese comics in the style of manga, I, personally, do not consider them to be anime or manga. But I understand that some people define "manga" as a style, and some define it as "comics." And that's fine as long as general communication is not hindered.

 

[Talshere]

Every year we fail to return to an ice age (cos that is what we are due. YAY go 2000m think 13million km^2 ice sheet over the entire USA!) increases the likelihood that we are affecting the climate. And despite this rant Im actually pro preventative measures. At worst our worries are completely unfounded and we get cleaner air. Just look at the number of smog days LA and London used to get. London never gets them now and LA rarely does. This can only be a good thing. Worst case scenario we were right and we will be ready. BUT STOP WITH THE BLOODY PROPAGANDA! Present the TRUTH!

I'm all for clean air, but I cringe every time some one calls carbon dioxide a pollutant. I know that I'm in the minority since the EPA declared CO2 a pollutant so that they could regulate it. I just have this sinking feeling that the whole anti-carbon dioxide movement is fueled on ignorance. Consider the fact that most combustion gives off two principle products. Both of these products are green house gases and both of these products end up, for the most part, in our oceans. The weaker green house gas is carbon dioxide which people are already afraid of because it can cause suffocate you. While this gas gets all the attention, the other, stronger green house gas that also "suffocates" hundreds of people every year gets ignored because it is water and no one is going to be afraid of it. I understand the differences between water and CO2 and I'll even put on my tinfoil hat before saying this, but a small section at the back of my mind started to wonder: "If I wanted to control all of the industry in the world, could I take a process central to everything, say combustion, and take a little understood part of that process, like carbon dioxide, and make everyone so afraid of it that they ask me to control it for them?"

Anyway, clean air is great. I hate smog; I don't want to breath nitrates or sulfates and I can barely tolerate being around smokers. I want clean water. Carbon dioxide, however, is an essential part of life and industry and it makes soda-pop great.

While other natural gasses, most notably CH4, do undoubtedly contribute to the green house effect when we correlate the parts per million (ppm) to changes in air temperature. Usually (though not exclusively) all other gasses have a lag time behind the temperature shift event while CO2 lies on the incident boundary. From this we can correlate that CO2 is one of if not the most important green house gas in terms of climate forcing. It has also been linked significantly in paleoclimate records with ocean acidification and raising the lysocline (the point at which calcium carbonate dissolves in the ocean which atm lies at around 4k metres depending on where you are in the world). This is also important as it greatly affects primary productivity in the ocean.

Methane (CH4) has also been strongly linked to climate change but usually in the form of spikes in temperature which quickly (1 mill years or so) return to the normal trend causing no long term alteration.


I can provide you with accompanying evidence if you wish. So unless your going to start accusing climate scientists and more or less every environmental scientific journal in the world liars I suggest you do your reading and revise your statment.


It is true that water vapour causes climate change but it is relatively short term as when you pump excess water vapour into the atmosphere it quickly becomes over saturated and pisses it down. The theory, however, if you want to go an look it up is called "Global Dimming" which theorises that the amount of gasses harmful or otherwise such as jet con trails and cooling tower emissions are creating an imperceptible mirror in the atmosphere that reflects a significant proportion of energy back out to space. Some even suggest that this effect is significantly masking the effects of global warming and should we actually reduce this global dimming effect it could greatly accelerate climate change and throw out even our most extreme models.

Personally, while I'm willing to accept the theory of global dimming that the evidence is incomplete, I greatly doubt it would affect us "that" much if we stopped all emission tomorrow.



You have now been educated and may form a more correct opinion.

 

[Sarah Frazier]

I play MMOs and I've been through the whole newb stage myself which is why I don't mind helping others with the finer points of how the game works and terminology... But there was this one person who would ask repeatedly what something was or why something wasn't working even though there were half a dozen people answering the question. Some people would even give step-by-step directions on how to do something and they'd keep on asking. Eventually even I gave up trying to help them because they were either not paying attention or just incapable of being helped.

But generally people who don't bother looking at the basic instructions and then start whining about how things are too hard annoy the snot out of me.

Captcha: Robert wookshe (I didn't know Chewie's brother was into that stuff)

 

[Kizi]

This week is midterm week.
Of course, after taking the exams, we all ask each other about which exams we took. My first test was in orchestra. Almost every single time I brought it up, someone would go "Wait, you have midterms in orchestra? That's dumb." and then I'd have to explain that, yes, in orchestra we actually learn things, and do not, in fact, just dick around with instruments for 90 minutes.
That's a pain to deal with.
Also, my mom's ignorance of single thing I do is mildly frustrating.
"So... Which instrument do you play again?"
"I'm a violist, mom. I've been doing this since sixth grade."
"That's nice."

I have something similar.
I recently started philosophy at school and I'm enjoying it a lot. However, whenever I tell someone I'm studying philosophy, they ask me if the class is just sitting and staring into the air, stroking our beards, pondering everything and getting free credit for it. No. No, it's not. We're learning about ancient philosophers and their philosophical questions while also discussing our own thoughts of the matter.
Idiots, I tell 'ya.

 

[Dr Jones]

I remembering having a HUGE fight with dad a while back because I turned off his computer's screen to save electricity because he left in on for running. He insisted the computer was aware of the screen being turned off, and would respond to that, often by crashing.

Sorry, but that made me xD!
Don't hurt your computer's feelings, man! Turning the monitor off will make it angry!

 

[chadachada123]

"The internet is down", especially coming from people incapable of comprehending a loose cable. I personally blame the people who install routers, not bad people at all, but their presence as "the internet fairies" perpetuate this particular thing.

Err...I don't think that you understand the flexibility that the article "the" has. If me and my family own a dog, and she is sick, it's perfectly normal to say, "The dog is sick" as opposed to saying, "My dog/Our dog is sick." The internet is the same thing. If the internet is not working at my house, and I am in my house, talking to other people in my house, then for all intents and purposes, "the internet is down."

(Unless you're talking about people that would think that the entire internet is ACTUALLY down or something, in which case, yeah, they're pretty ignorant).

The fact that there are regional variations in spelling seems to elude way more people than it should.

Do you mean that some people will correct others on spelling, not realizing that there is just a regional difference? That would be annoying. I'm American yet I spell several words in the British English way, like grey, or offense/defence (that's right, I spell offense like an American, but defence like someone from the UK).

 

[Rule Britannia]

Not really ignorant as much as it is clueless and lazy ¬.¬

When I moved I didn't use a laptop in school and so when I came to this new school everyone used computers and I was next to useless with them since then I've become the fixit guy (although I don't know shit for hardware)


In my grade of 15 people I'm the guy to go to if your PC is fucked up (all the guys in my grade use PCs apart from one (5 people)) and so I am the one fixing things and installing programs, because I'm a busy guy I make my own "readme" files so they can do it themselves... They can't find "program files 86x".

 

[theheroofaction]

(Unless you're talking about people that would think that the entire internet is ACTUALLY down or something, in which case, yeah, they're pretty ignorant).

well, unfortunately, I was referring to the type of people who never attempt troubleshooting, because they literally believe the entire internet is disabled.

Do you mean that some people will correct others on spelling, not realizing that there is just a regional difference? That would be annoying. I'm American yet I spell several words in the British English way, like grey, or offense/defence (that's right, I spell offense like an American, but defence like someone from the UK).

And since I'm quoting you anyhow, I might as well bother clarifying that yes, what you heard is exactly what I meant.

 

[Zen Toombs]

Misunderstanding bisexuality was previously mentioned, but I would like to add the following: just because I'm bisexual doesn't mean that I want to date a guy and a girl at the same time. Bisexuality [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bisexuality] =/= polyamory [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Polyamory][footnote]For those who don't want to click the link, "polyamory" is the term for those who are knowingly and willingly involved romantically with multiple people at the same time.[/footnote] people!

Also, while I'm personally monogamous, why do people think that polyamory is a bad thing?

 

[Hipsy_Gypsy]

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Oh, wow; what age is your auntie? I was always under the impression that Finland was always generally very accepting towards the fairer sex from what I've read. Would love to visit some day.

She is 52... You can't use her to make general assumptions about our population since in my opinion she is a narcisissistic, ignorant idiot.

Oh, my word; really? This woman here is sixty!:


And don't worry; I know better than to do that, haha.

Finland, overall, has been and still is very accepting towards women. Equality is somewhat omnipresent in our society, although during the recent years some ugly xenophobia has lifted its head. However, even if we have been very accepting towards women during the last century when equality did not have as strong of a footing as nowadays, we still had our share of problems which includes a very high rate of domestic violence.

Awk, that sounds like a real pity. Mind you, there's some of that no matter where you go, huh? Generally, I've heard pretty good things about Finland, although I've heard about this stereotype of how many Finns carry around knives and/or are complete mutes. I've heard that they're generally quite quiet but that doesn't bother me at all! I just get the impression they enjoy their peace and quiet!

In Finland you will not find sunny beaches or massive tourist locations, but we do have our own attractions. If you can appreciate silly, small things like the beauty of nature, you may find the experience to be rewarding.
And for lolz:

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Oh, I know but there's always the Northern Lights and, from what I've heard, the fresh air and lovely wildlife. I'm always up for a wee dander across the greenery, haha. It sounds like just my thing. I've heard about the 24 hour sunlight from... May was it? until about early/mid-July. I'm sure that would be strange, if not, at first.
A couple of friends and I are hopinh to visit Finland in August (hopefully being the key word, mind you!), and the plan was originally to Helsinki because it's the capital and all that jazz, but Jack knows somebody from Oulu I think, so perhaps in the middle instead of the south. I wouldn't mind going to Lapland at some point either. I've began contemplating on trying my hand (or feet, rather) at snowboarding for some reason. Knowing me, I'll probably end up breaking my legs trying to attach myself, haha.

I don't know exactly how common either of these are anymore, but just a few years ago I couldn't seem to escape them.
*A-chem*
British is NOT shorthand for English, there are three whole other countries in there.

On a similar note, for the love of God DO NOT make the mistake of thinking the WHOLE of Ireland is part of Britain, ESPESSIALLY if you are talking to someone actually from Ireland.

Ohh, it bugs me when people say "North of Ireland" as opposed to "Northern Ireland" because the north of Ireland consists of counties Donegal and Monaghan, haha. Mind you, I'm a wee bit tolerant of people saying I'm Irish, but usually only whenever they're referring to the whole island. I'd prefer to live down south anyway! That reminds me; I'm suppose[d] to be heading to Kent in the summer months as part of a film crew but I've been hearing things about how the mainlands won't accept Northern Irish money. It's absurd though, because it's the same currency. Apparently Scottish folk have the same problem. I hope that doesn't happen but it'll be their own fault if I hand them all my change! Where are you from, out of curiosity?

 

[New Troll]

Everyone is ignorant when it comes to certain things. Take for example me when it comes to vehicles. I have little idea what car is what when it drives by me on the street. And even less of a clue what I'm looking at once a hood has been popped. So a lot of people's ignorance can be taken lightly. But then there's the stuff that's just extremely annoying...

Like the misconception of the term "iPod." I work retail and I swear every single customer either believes iPods are different then MP3 players, or don't even know there's an electronic device called an MP3 player. And even MP3 player is slang! Or really just an obsolete description. Now it's Digital Media Player. An iPod is a brand of MP3 player, just like how Kleenex is a brand of facial tissue and Q-Tip is a brand cotton swab and Coke is a brand of soda. But every day I will get customers asking for "Sony iPods" or "generic iPods." Every single time.

My bold.

Are you implying that your ignorance of cars should be taken lightly but that others ignorance of the nature of digital media players should not?

Because speaking as someone who knows about cars AND digital media players, I'd say either relax about both (as I do), or take both seriously (if you are so inclined). Either way stop being a fucking hypocrite.


If this was not your intent, and I have infered the wrong thing, then I apologise.

What I will say, however, is that people, all people, no matter how smart, are ignorant. Nobody knows everything about everything, and this means they're going to have glaring levels of ignorance when around those who know about subjects they don't. So we should all just chill out about it until it becomes a direct and tangible influence on our lives... For example - Michael Gove (current Education Minister in the UK) does not know a damned thing about Education. This bothers me because I'm about to go to Uni to study teaching, after which I intend to become a history teacher.

His ignorance affects not just me and my future career, but every single teacher, and child in education, in Britain. This is the kind of ignorance to get pissed off about... Whether or not he can tell the difference between a Zune and an Ipod is irrelevant.

Heh, you basically asked me a question and then answered it for me. I'm saying everyone has ignorance and it can be annoying to others, so I was just asking what ignorances annoy you personally.

And yes, I know for a fact my ignorance when it comes to vehicles annoys my step-dad and step-brother to no end since they're both car enthusiests. But then I have to go set up their DVD players for them so we're even.

 

[Loki J]

Another thing that always frustrates me to no end... Full Frame vs. Widescreen! Even now when all TVs are made widescreen and 99% of DVDs are made widescreen, I still get customers who demand Full Frame because they claim widescreen chops the tops and bottoms of movies off. Full frame was the worst term ever thought up, for ignorant people see the word 'full' and jump to the conclusion that means 'complete.' I even get a lot of customers who believe Full Frame and Widescreen are the exact same picture, just widescreen has been stretched to fit misshapen TV sets. And I hate getting the deer in headlights look from them when I try to explain how movies (and now most TV shows) are made wide, just as how a movie screen is wide in the theater. Goes right over their heads.

100% agreed. I work in the cinema & A/V industry and have had to explain this same thing dozens of times to my friends and family and they still ***** about 'black bars' when they see a movie filmed in Scope (ultra-widescreen) on their HD TV.

They're beginning to make 21:9 ultra-wide TVs now, but you'll still get the 'black bars' on the sides when you watch a movie that's filmed in Flat (~17:9, usually chopped slightly to hit 16:9).

I think the worst part is that my family is buying HD TVs (finally), but don't have HD cable, so they use the Stretch option to get rid of the 'black bars' so 'it looks right'. *facepalm*

...I'm beginning to think some of them do it just to troll me...

Z

 

[Zen Toombs]

Because most of the time you hear of it, it's either creepy cultists who want several wives 'cuz all women are inferior, cuz they told me in church', or a few people who if questioned more about it have a dysfunctional relationship but won't either break it up or talk it out and then flee from that problem by wanting another partner.

Point accepted with the "creepy cultists" & "dysfunctional relationships". However, there are otherwise [sub]quote[/sub]normal[sub]quote[/sub] people who don't think that sexual exclusivity is needed for a relationship.

You might find it offense, but I don't believe polyamoury exists. Obviously people feel attracted to more than one person who fits them, but pursuing a relationship with several at the same time? No, I don't think that's healthy.

How is it not healthy? To steal from the polyamorous handbook, how is it healthy to fly into a jealous rage if your partner thinks another human being is attractive? How is it healthy to not be okay with the love of your life doing what makes them happy? Et cetera, et cetera.

[Polyamory] must be denied because otherwise in no time emancipation would be destroyed because people are allowed to have harems of several women again.

Erm, how? For one: most of the people that I know of that are Poly are women, not men who want a constant "3+some". B: a basic premise of polyamory is that everything is consensual. Three or C: so long as everything is consensual, how are women's rights involved with this? And coming in a very low four, or D, or that little (iv) in brackets they use in footnotes: Wine.

 

[Gatx]

I can relate to that. I dont like when people say that anime is only made in Japan or asian countries. Thats probably because one of my favorites is French.

I can relate to that. I don't like it when people think that manga isn't manga unless it was made in Japan. Frédéric Boilet might be French, but his comics give me more of a manga feeling than many Japanese mangaka.

And let's not forget that the only really established meaning of the word manga is "comics." Not "big-eyed comics," or "comics read right-to-left," just "comics." So when I get into an argument about that kind of thing, I tell people that. And add "So when I say that the word "manga" can be used about this comic, I've got over one hundred million Japanese people who agree with me. You think you know this stuff better than the entire population of Japan?"

Yes, but you don't live in Japan, do you? One word can mean different things across cultures. "Pants" means pants in American English but means "underwear" in Japanese. Consider even the different meanings that words like "biscuit" and "pudding" have in British English.

So yes, while "manga" means "comic" in Japanese, as a loanword it means "Japanese comic."

Separate issue: Midi-chlorians does not equal "The Force," they are just the middle-man between living things and said "Force." George Lucas, no matter what else he may have done to ruin the Star Wars franchise, he did not retcon a mystical energy field into microscopic bacteria.

 

[him over there]

I get really annoyed at the over reactive ignorance of people who vent about colloquial phrases that are technically incorrect as if they are totally incapable of understanding them. I can't stand anyone who doesn't understand how to record a screen and somehow thinks that their ignorance makes it okay when they record a screen with a camera and put it on the internet.

 

[OldNewNewOld]

Those stupid "Top 100 unexplained or whatever" lists annoy me to no end. Containing such jaw dropping questions like "Why do kamikaze pilots wear helmets?" or "Why do they execute criminals with sterile needles?". Ugh. Also old wives' tales. No, mother, I'm not going to die if I go out with wet hair.

I get that kamikaze pilots need to protect their heads until it's time for impact, but I don't get the needles thing. Why do they use sterile needles?

The doctor who uses the needle could accidentally sting him self.
If the needle wasn't sterile, he could have problems.
Also, you want them to die peacefully. There is always a possibility that something can go wrong, the poison won't even come to the body and they will delay the execution. You don't want them to die slowly and painfully from some disease.

 

[Yureina]

I am pretty forgiving when it comes to "ignorances" that people have. Probably because I have quite alot of them due to my general disconnect from popular culture and society as a whole, though i've gotten much better over the past year. All that really matters is that people are at least functional enough to not let minor lacks of knowledge get in the way of their daily lives, or at least that they make a conscious effort to figure things out that they don't quite understand.

Basically... just live and let live, you know?

 

[Agayek]

I don't mind intensive purposes, in that I remember much mocking of a guy who said that while trying to impress us with his write wordy skills.

Generally, eh, I could care less.

Can't tell if serious or trolling.