Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim: Dragonborn DLC files found in latest patch

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Dandark said:
Given how the boss fights in dawnguard were pretty epic I imagine they could do something cool with a dragonborn fight. If they do add the ability to ride dragons then you will probably fight him/her in a dragon dual.......................


That would be the most epic thing ever.
Epic dragon riding final fight, both of you using magic, and using dragon shouts.

that would like, be the best way to end the game.

Dandark said:
EDIT: Didn't quite notice that bit about the holy trinity in your comment then(Damn you quote messages). I never realized that o_O
Now that you mention it though it does kind of make sense, I just never realized it. This is why I love the ES lore, there is so much to it that I am constantly finding out new stuff that I never knew before and most of it is cryptic or unknown which is great =D
Bethesda has been nice enough to provide those who want story in their games with tons of stuff to read to make the Elder Scrolls games plot deeper.

Its a game that really has two plots
1. the first is the plot everyone sees when they play the game, its kinda meh
2. the second plot is the real turth behind what is happening, shrouded in cryptic symbolism and hidden messages across the game and its books.
 

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SajuukKhar said:
Dandark said:
Given how the boss fights in dawnguard were pretty epic I imagine they could do something cool with a dragonborn fight. If they do add the ability to ride dragons then you will probably fight him/her in a dragon dual.......................


That would be the most epic thing ever.
Epic dragon riding final fight, both of you using magic, and using dragon shouts.

that would like, be the best way to end the game.
Best way to ruin the game you mean, I wouldn't be able to stop laughing at how stupid that would look in Skyrim's engine.
A dragonborn bossfight doesn't interest me, we have all done that before in a way, dragons, Draugr Deathlords etc. Personally I find getting Fus Ro Dah'd across the room every 10 seconds mildly annoying.
 

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Jynthor said:
Best way to ruin the game you mean, I wouldn't be able to stop laughing at how stupid that would look in Skyrim's engine.
A dragonborn bossfight doesn't interest me, we have all done that before in a way, dragons, Draugr Deathlords etc. Personally I find getting Fus Ro Dah'd across the room every 10 seconds mildly annoying.
that should stop happening once you hit like level 30ish.
 

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SajuukKhar said:
Dandark said:
Given how the boss fights in dawnguard were pretty epic I imagine they could do something cool with a dragonborn fight. If they do add the ability to ride dragons then you will probably fight him/her in a dragon dual.......................


That would be the most epic thing ever.
Epic dragon riding final fight, both of you using magic, and using dragon shouts.

that would like, be the best way to end the game.
You use storm call and he uses Alduins meteor shower or something similar?
You both use Unrelenting force and clash with each other as both forces are equal strength?
You use frost breath and he cancels it out with fire breath and vice versa?
Both your dragons are eventully taken down and you both begin a fight using your weaponry?


I just realized that if they want to they could try and make his character mirror yours. If you have levelled up your melee weapons and use swords a lot then they can make him wield a two handed weapon or use a shield.
If you are a sneaky thief then maybe he can use a bow or dual daggers as well as some illusion magic(Turn invisible or control other creatures that could be nearby)
If you have been using magic a lot then he could focus on conjured weaponry and destruction magic, maybe even conjured armour if they happened to add it in.

It could be kinda hard to do though, especially with someone who maxed all their character stats or had a weird build but if they set up presets for him then that could be interesting, like fighting your own character.

Although I imagine that they will instead just make it a epic badass fight. This has made me clean out my old or unused mods and try to get back into Skyrim because this DLC is making me damn excited about the game again.
 

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Dandark said:
It could be kinda hard to do though, especially with someone who maxed all their character stats or had a weird build but if they set up presets for him then that could be interesting, like fighting your own character.
They would probably give him Dragon armor, like 5,000 HP, and 100 in all skills.

captcha: choco lazer boom

whut? captcha gone crazy
 

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SajuukKhar said:
Jynthor said:
Best way to ruin the game you mean, I wouldn't be able to stop laughing at how stupid that would look in Skyrim's engine.
A dragonborn bossfight doesn't interest me, we have all done that before in a way, dragons, Draugr Deathlords etc. Personally I find getting Fus Ro Dah'd across the room every 10 seconds mildly annoying.
that should stop happening once you hit like level 30ish.
I'm level 37.
Not sure about Draugr, but dragons spam Fus Ro Dah like crazy.
 

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Jynthor said:
I'm level 37.
Not sure about Draugr, but dragons spam Fus Ro Dah like crazy.
Whut?

A dragon used Fus Ro Da?

I have never had a dragon use anything but fire/frost breath, that fire/frost ball, and Drain Vitality.

Not saying it doesn't happen, I'm just saying I have never seen it, maybe i don't enter into the trigger range for it.
 

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SajuukKhar said:
Jynthor said:
I'm level 37.
Not sure about Draugr, but dragons spam Fus Ro Dah like crazy.
Whut?

A dragon used Fus Ro Da?

I have never had a dragon use anything but fire/frost breath, that fire/frost ball, and Drain Vitality.

Not saying it doesn't happen, I'm just saying I have never seen it, maybe i don't enter into the trigger range for it.
Every single fight they use it in my game, the only dragon mod I use is the improved textures one(and even then I have some bug where I sometimes meet extremely low res dragons) so that can't be it.
 

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SajuukKhar said:
Dandark said:
It could be kinda hard to do though, especially with someone who maxed all their character stats or had a weird build but if they set up presets for him then that could be interesting, like fighting your own character.
They would probably give him Dragon armor, like 5,000 HP, and 100 in all skills.

captcha: choco lazer boom

whut? captcha gone crazy
That's the new dragon shout, it is epic and should be loved by everyone. [/sarcasm]

What's that thing called? The thing that makes using console commands or pausing time to drink potions part of the lore. I can't remember the name but clearly it would be a great idea to let him use that, the battle would never end.

(Dragonborn paused time, dragonborn typed in /godmode, dragonborn used a mod to laugh at you)



In all seriousness with the zero infomation available on another dragonborn I am just guessing but, I am currently seeing another dragonborn as a more experienced one than you, it's probably but not definitely a male and I imagine that he will be a warrior with heavy dragon armour as you said, probably using a dragonbone sword(One handed or two handed) with some magic ability. He may not use magic but just shouts instead but I wouldn't be surprised if he had minor skill in destruction.

I still can't decide how he would react to you though, yeah he is a dragonborn but you are the one who defeated Alduin so I would think he would have at least has some kind of respect for your strength, enough that he wouldn't just go "Lol I be killz you!" but they could do a lot of things to have an enemy dragonborn.

You mentioned how it's like each game has two plots, what most people see and then the truth shrouded in symbolism, an enemy dragonborn could come from any manner of things for the normal plot and just be some random evil dude but I wonder what kind of story could be forming behind the scenes if they do decide to do this.

Captcha: whet your appetite

On elder scrolls lore and speculation? I already am.
 

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Jynthor said:
Every single fight they use it in my game, the only dragon mod I use is the improved textures one(and even then I have some bug where I sometimes meet extremely low res dragons) so that can't be it.
Well the game is buggy as fuck, I may just have a bug that prevents them from using it.

Dandark said:
What's that thing called? The thing that makes using console commands or pausing time to drink potions part of the lore. I can't remember the name but clearly it would be a great idea to let him use that, the battle would never end.

(Dragonborn paused time, dragonborn typed in /godmode, dragonborn used a mod to laugh at you)
Its called CHIM, and I doubt they would give him CHIM, its not fair.
 

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Jynthor said:
SajuukKhar said:
Jynthor said:
I'm level 37.
Not sure about Draugr, but dragons spam Fus Ro Dah like crazy.
Whut?

A dragon used Fus Ro Da?

I have never had a dragon use anything but fire/frost breath, that fire/frost ball, and Drain Vitality.

Not saying it doesn't happen, I'm just saying I have never seen it, maybe i don't enter into the trigger range for it.
Every single fight they use it in my game, the only dragon mod I use is the improved textures one(and even then I have some bug where I sometimes meet extremely low res dragons) so that can't be it.
I have never seen a dragon use it, are you sure that some mod hasn't added that and only put it in a sidenote or something?
 

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Dandark said:
I have never seen a dragon use it, are you sure that some mod hasn't added that and only put it in a sidenote or something?
I looked it up on the UESP, it IS possible for dragons to use fus Ro Da.

It is part of their available shouts.
 

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SajuukKhar said:
Jynthor said:
Every single fight they use it in my game, the only dragon mod I use is the improved textures one(and even then I have some bug where I sometimes meet extremely low res dragons) so that can't be it.
Well the game is buggy as fuck, I may just have a bug that prevents them from using it.
I think it started happening when I got Dawnguard.

Edit:
I figured it out, I have a mod which gives dragons actual shout voices(which is awesome) but it also enables Unrelenting Force for them.
Link [http://skyrim.nexusmods.com/mods/12053]
 

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SajuukKhar said:
Dandark said:
I have never seen a dragon use it, are you sure that some mod hasn't added that and only put it in a sidenote or something?
I looked it up on the UESP, it IS possible for dragons to use fus Ro Da.

It is part of their available shouts.
Well thats odd. I have never seen them use it, they pretty much just go with fire or frost breath(and the 2 long range versions where they shoot balls) as well as what I assume is drain vitality.

I can only assume there is some sort of bug, it would be annoying for dragons to use it which is why I thought they didn't. Maybe they had the original option to but Bethesda removed it due to annoyance but left the files in there? So it could be a bug which is causing them to use it?

Jynthor, are they using other shouts or is it just unrelenting force(Fus Roh Dah)? I don't know much about it but I can only assume it's a bug, it's never happened in my game or my friends game, from what I can tell it doesn't happen in most games.

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Its called CHIM, and I doubt they would give him CHIM, its not fair.
Oh I am pretty sure they would not actually do that, it's just that would be hilarious. I always tried to imagine what a battle between two people who know of CHIM would be like and I could only imagine that it would be a never ending battle of constant healing and God powers.

Actually I am pretty sure that it would eventually end up like the final fights in Gurren Lagann.
 

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Jynthor said:
I think it started happening when I got Dawnguard.
Hmm, I don't know, the only thing dragon realted I got from dawnguard were those fucking damage resistant bastards called Legendary Dragons.

fucking 4,163 HP, dear god.

Even with 80% damage resistance, 80% magicka absorption change, and a 45% magic resistance, on my character those guys did massive damage, holy shit.

Bethesda rammed high level players up the ass with legendary dragons.
 

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DUDE! Back to Solstheim! AWESOME!

Can't wait to see how the...
Destruction of Morrowind
Affected the region!
I figure it's probably only Solstheim, and considering the filenames, the telvanni buit an "outpost" there XD
so I guess you only see a ruined Vvardenfell on the horizon.

on topic: BY THE GODS!
this cannot be true. it would be too awesome D:
also I can already see the trailer:
some overdramatizing words on black background, and then a cut to the morrowind theme (or something) while flying over some standing stones NEXT TO A TELVANNI TOWER.
 

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Rainforce said:
I figure it's probably only Solstheim, and considering the filenames, the telvanni buit an "outpost" there XD
so I guess you only see a ruined Vvardenfell on the horizon.

on topic: BY THE GODS!
this cannot be true. it would be too awesome D:
after Morrowind got destroyed man Dunmer fled to the island, I wouldn't be surprised to find peoples, and outposts, from all of the great Houses, Televani, Redoran, Halalu, Dres, Indornil, etc. etc. there also.

I am sad though, the televani tower has built in levitation, so we wont be learning a spell to traverse it.

No levitation spell for the Dragonborn.
 

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Except the situation above never leads to anything. Just quest complete, never to be spoken of again. If I kill all the Kings in Freeside, they are dead, the ending credits says, they are dead. Other NPCs mention that they are dead, the game world stays true to itself. Quests involving them and the NPC signing a truce, can't happen. If I kill random Redperson lady in the Inn during this quest...nobody mentions it, nobody cares, nothing changes in the plot. Thats a very stark contrast. If it doesn't matter to anybody in the game world, why should I care? BTW - You can make most everyone live a fairly good life at the end of New Vegas, but lets stick to Skyrim.
Just want to pop in to say if you kill certain people in towns and villages, things change. Like in I think Riverwood, if you kill a shop owner her brother takes over, and mentions the killing every now and then. Smithies are taken over by sons and daughters and I know a lumber mill in some place gets taken over by a friend of the guy if you kill him. Just thought I'd say that.

Oh, also, people send thugs and assassins to kill you if they see you stealing or murdering their family members/friends. Yes, even kids will send assassins.
 

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Lil_Rimmy said:
Just want to pop in to say if you kill certain people in towns and villages, things change. Like in I think Riverwood, if you kill a shop owner her brother takes over, and mentions the killing every now and then. Smithies are taken over by sons and daughters and I know a lumber mill in some place gets taken over by a friend of the guy if you kill him. Just thought I'd say that.

Oh, also, people send thugs and assassins to kill you if they see you stealing or murdering their family members/friends. Yes, even kids will send assassins.
I have had thugs send thungs after me because I killed them.

Its so funny, the note says the hired thugs were hired by a hired thug.

Also killing people can result in you getting a note from that person's enemy saying they thank you for killing them, and if you beat someone up with your fists sometimes people will send you letters asking that you beat up someone else for them.
 

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I have to wonder how spears will work now if they are brought back in. I imagine that they will be heavy weapons that take up two hands but they can also do one handed versions. So I assume there are people here who played Morrowind, could someone let me know how they worked or felt in that game? Were they seen as useful?

Also didn't they at some point remove spears from existence in the lore?