Emo Rant (not what you think)

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vede

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malsector said:
Thankyou for a good counter point !
No probs homez.

But usually people counter counter-points. Didn't you have anything else to say?
 

Alleged_Alec

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You know what really gets to me? That on TMF Rock, the only show on TMF which was worth watching (except for that one time when they aired Cowboy Bebop). That is, until they decided that 30 seconds to mars, (the new) green day, my chemical romance and all those other shitty bands are also rock, and thus needed to be aired in that hour as well.

Really, fuck those shitty bands, I watch that show because I want to see AC/DC, Led Zeppelin, Airbourne and all those real rock bands. Not a bunch of whiny androgynous asses singing about riding through a seasonal wind.
 

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When i was at school, i used to hear people state they hate bands because their "emo" i asked them what they thought emo meant and they replied "i dunno, its short for emotional right?"

so i said to him, surely you would hate all music that contains lyrics then? All songs are written about love, anger blah blah, these things are emotions so is all music emo now?

As for the emo trend, i don't mind how they dress, doesn't bother me :) However the stereotypical 14year old emo boy or girl who pretends to be depressed cos their parents make them do the washing up, they need to grow up a little


sorry i mightof went off topic, for me Emo music is shite, but i read Metal Hammer so thats what i'm brainwashed to believe :S
 

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My perception has always been that people label things shifting from 'normal' interests, dark but not satanic enough to be goth goth emo. Personally I find this very annoying and narrow-minded. And to me the term has been flung at me for so many times I have actually started making fun of it, which seems to me like a pretty strange sight for other people.

That being said I think everyone abuses the term emo because it has been used so loosely for just about everything from tight striped longsleeves to black wristbands. My opinion is that everyone should just shut the hell up before they make even bigger fools of themselves.
 

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Emo is said to have started during the late 80's. Theres an actual argument on who started it first Sunny day real estate or Sonic Youth. All emo really is the is the whining of teenage angst. So I can see why alot bands now in days that are being labeled emo that aren't really emo. All alot people are basing it off the very effeminate looks of the bands. Plus they give punk and metal a very bad name. I for one can't stand the whining high pitched vocals. Its like nails through a chalk board.
 

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PedroSteckecilo said:
Abedeus said:
Except that Goth are badass, emoes are just crybabies and losers.

/slash /slash
um... I don't know what goths you know, most of the ones I've met are deluded arrogant assholes who think they're vampires or something.

Okay, not entirely true, but I've never met a "badass" goth in my life, they're either nice, normalish people who like to wear black and dye their hair or they're the above.
You should watch one of the last episodes of South Park.

There is a difference between true Goths and jerks that try to act like vampires.
 

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Emo is when people (or groups of people i.e. bands) start taking life too seriously and demand attention to their should be insignificant or blown out of proportion problems, situations, or whatnot.

Thank you, and good night.
 

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Emo, or rather Emotionalism, is just a way of thinking that usually looks at the bad side of things. It does come with a fashion trend that expresses the emo side of dressing (dark, in most of it), and there are some bands that DO, in fact, admit to being emo. All american rejects is an example (and the only one I can think of right now). Emotionalism includes many things, which I can't really be bothered to think of right now, but many people have converted it to their own lifestyle, and I'm fine with it. What I don't really get is why people get so mad at emos. I mean, a lot could be said about those people too, and I don't see the emos doing it. Live and let live, like Mr Marley used to say.
 

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Abedeus said:
PedroSteckecilo said:
Abedeus said:
Except that Goth are badass, emoes are just crybabies and losers.

/slash /slash
um... I don't know what goths you know, most of the ones I've met are deluded arrogant assholes who think they're vampires or something.

Okay, not entirely true, but I've never met a "badass" goth in my life, they're either nice, normalish people who like to wear black and dye their hair or they're the above.
You should watch one of the last episodes of South Park.

There is a difference between true Goths and jerks that try to act like vampires.
... since when is South Park a reference for reality? Besides if you're "badass" in real life you're likely either...

a) Arrogant

or

b) A jerk

so... the only difference is that you don't pretend to be a vampire, But you still like Hair Dye and Nail polish?

Damn I'm confused here.
 

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Well what it actually is, nowadays, is a type of music (emotional) which is basically anything from pop-punk to death metal but with whiny/emotional/gory lyrics. It sort of started as its own kind of genre but now its struggled its way into lots of genres. This has made me might unhappy. It means theres a strange and almost undeterminable line in each genre that seperates the emo version and the cool version.

Greenday are not emo because they started in like 1988 or something and, I'm not sure when emo actually started, but it became popular in 2002 onwards. Paramore are an emo band, but I don't really have any reasoning for that other than I dislike them.

EDIT: Appearence is also important, but I don't really need to describe that.
 
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Nivag said:
Well what it actually is, nowadays, is a type of music (emotional) which is basically anything from pop-punk to death metal but with whiny/emotional/gory lyrics. It sort of started as its own kind of genre but now its struggled its way into lots of genres. This has made me might unhappy. It means theres a strange and almost undeterminable line in each genre that seperates the emo version and the cool version.

Greenday are not emo because they started in like 1988 or something and, I'm not sure when emo actually started, but it became popular in 2002 onwards. Paramore are an emo band, but I don't really have any reasoning for that other than I dislike them.

EDIT: Appearence is also important, but I don't really need to describe that.
The bolded part seems to be what "truly" defines emo.
 

J-Man

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Well, the stereotype emo is practically non-existent. It's basically just a term for a person someone dislikes who has long hair or wears dark clothes. I disregard the words "emo, chav and neek" because I'm sick of people classifying others.
 

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vdgmprgrmr said:
Malsector is wrong.

-snip-
Though I will agree with you on most of your points. I have to argue that the clothing aspect of it is more scene than anything and will die out soon enough. I am scene, not emo. The scene I sport is the (so called) "emo" scene. I am fine with the way I look and feel and I am fine with the music I listen to. I realize that what I am listening to is not emo rock and I understand that I am not emo. Other people do not however because they have been convinced by the media otherwise.

Point (in case you couldn't see it, it happens all too often): The definition of what emo is has changed. Emo is still what Malsector said it is. The media has convinced everyone that scene is "emo" so that is what people believe.
 

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Well,the way I see it is that emo today is like a slightly gothic/punk un-hardcore type thing these days. The meaning has changed from what it was. Nowadays it's all those guys you see who wear grey and black clothes and listen to watered down punk.
 

Caliostro

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/wrist.


Emo - Overly emotional people that cry about everything. "WHAA THE GIRL I MET 3 HOURS AGO LEFT ME!! *Cuts wrist*" "WHAAA! I'tS RAINY! I'M GNNNA WRIT IN MY BLOG ABOUT IT CAUSE IT MADE ME SAD!" ...etc.
 

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I just call em Scene Kids nowdays. I dont really know (or care) what the diffrence is.

If someone has lots of facial percings, skinnys, tight black shirt and listens to bands with three words and X's in between then they are more then likly Scene Kids..
 

vede

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Gxas said:
vdgmprgrmr said:
Malsector is wrong.

-snip-
Though I will agree with you on most of your points. I have to argue that the clothing aspect of it is more scene than anything and will die out soon enough. I am scene, not emo. The scene I sport is the (so called) "emo" scene. I am fine with the way I look and feel and I am fine with the music I listen to. I realize that what I am listening to is not emo rock and I understand that I am not emo. Other people do not however because they have been convinced by the media otherwise.

Point (in case you couldn't see it, it happens all too often): The definition of what emo is has changed. Emo is still what Malsector said it is. The media has convinced everyone that scene is "emo" so that is what people believe.
I think you may have missed my point. Especially the last part (which was the main point, I think). While I should have said that not all people who dress like that are emo in personality, the definition of the word still stands.

In the last part of my post I specifically noted that if a huge majority of people think a word means something, they're right, because a word depends on the people using it for meaning, and if you go around saying a word in a way that people don't normally use it, you'll confuse people. Just because the new meaning was influenced by media is irrelevant. Emo is not what Malsector said, 'emo' is (the personality trait) being melodramatic and complaining excessively about how you think modern society is a media-controlled retard or something along those lines. It means that because that's what people think it means. Words, because they are abstract things, take their meaning from what people think their meaning is, not from set-in-stone definitions.

For examples on my words' meanings argument, look at the word "gay." Starts out meaning 'happy,' now it means 'homosexual.' Same thing with "queer." If you go about saying, "I'm so gay." People will think something very different from what you might mean by it.
 

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PedroSteckecilo said:
Abedeus said:
PedroSteckecilo said:
Abedeus said:
Except that Goth are badass, emoes are just crybabies and losers.

/slash /slash
um... I don't know what goths you know, most of the ones I've met are deluded arrogant assholes who think they're vampires or something.

Okay, not entirely true, but I've never met a "badass" goth in my life, they're either nice, normalish people who like to wear black and dye their hair or they're the above.
You should watch one of the last episodes of South Park.

There is a difference between true Goths and jerks that try to act like vampires.
... since when is South Park a reference for reality? Besides if you're "badass" in real life you're likely either...

a) Arrogant

or

b) A jerk

so... the only difference is that you don't pretend to be a vampire, But you still like Hair Dye and Nail polish?

Damn I'm confused here.
Badass doesn't mean you have to be a jerk, an arrogant person or an arrogant jerk. Well... I think so.