Empire: Total War comes tommorow - clip show/recap time! Post your most EPIC total war battle!

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Doug

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Baby Tea said:
I got a couple!

Way back in the days of Shogun: Total War (You know, the first one?) I managed to stop an army dead in it tracks at a bridge using 2 Sword Saints. Sword saints, for those who don't know, take forever to train, you get only 1 guy in the unit, not 30 or 40 or so, but they are crazy powerful. I had my army stationed behind them ready to help if they fell...but they didn't. The two stood on the bridge and slaughtered everyone who stepped foot on it (About 1200 men). It was freaking glorious
Indeed, I remember them! They where bloody hard to get, but where as effective as an army by themselves. I sent one guy, all by himself, to attack a bridge and secure a bridgehead. He did and then won the battle all by himself, killing enemies one after another until they started running away.
 

oliveira8

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Hmmm I had many Total War Epic battles...I'll tell this one that I had 1 hour ago. Playing Rome:Total Realism-Platinum(a mod) Playing as Republic of Rome was attacking a Carthigian city, Utica.

I had around 2700 units all Infantry made of Triarii and Principes(i think I got the names right) had a couple of Javelin trowers in the back and the General Unit. So the Cartigians didnt enjoy me sieging their city and counter attacked me with a force of roughly 3000 units plus a couple hundreds from the city.

Hmmm..what to do...I know! I turtled my self in a corner of the map and wait for the Chartage peasents to come to me! That way the big army will be more tired then mine when the fight starts! Brilliant I thought, what could go wrong?

Well...I putted my troops on the WRONG corner and got the big army right behind me. The sad part is that they had elephants (ouchies). I didnt had much time repositioned a cople of units and started to pray for Jupiter.

Then the Elephants started to charge my lines! The Carthigians thought for one minute that the battle was going to be easier then they thought...WELL THEY WERE WRONG! Behind my Triarii and Principes the Javelin trowers had bonus versus Elephants! Muhahaha I laughed when they started to trow their javelins of pointy death! In panic the mighty beasts started to enter a frenzy mode! and ran into the Carthigians lines. Crushed with their own units!

But the battle wasnt over! After 30 agonizing minutes in which half way those stupid elephants were still running havok around both the lines of the Carthigians and mine. I was the victor! And the Utica was mine for the taking!


....4 turns after I lost the city cause I didnt had enough men to defend....DAMN!!!
 

Rusty Bucket

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My favourite battle was against the greek capital in Rome: Total war. Bothe of us had just over 1000 troops. I got through the walls easy enough, mainly because most of the greek infrnatry retreated into the city. The battle developed into 20 minutes of brutal street fighting, leaving my victorious army pretty much dead.
 

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In Shogun: Total War, I remember having a small band of spear men and an even smaller band of guys with awful rifles. And we were attacked by a rebel army that was many times bigger than ours. So, we retreated to a hill top and waited. They kept charging up the hill, got tired trying to get at us, but always didn't reach the top and retreated. Eventually, quite a lot of their units routed, leaving my tiny little regiment, thinned out a bit too, up there. But they still had a few units. Eventually, they sent everything they had at me and my soldiers all died, but the enemy lost a substantial amount of troops.

In Medieval: Total War, I think I was Germany or Denmark, and I slaughtered a huge Polish army of several thousand, losing quite a few men in the process, then entered Lithuania (always take this territory. ALWAYS.) and was attacked by a rather large Russian force.
We managed to split up the force into many regiments. Eventually, it ended with a lot of the Russians dead and very few troops left.

Rome: Total War was not very good and I didn't have an extremely memorable battle.

In Medieval 2: Total War, I had a huge battle of Teutons against Lithuanians. A much larger Teuton force was fortified in a city, Lithuanians surrounding them from all sides. After an initial bombardment, almost 4 towers and several walls were down. We sent cavalry into the gaps, crushing the small amounts of Teuton swordsmen they kept between the broken wall pieces. After that, we found all the enemy troops ... gathered in the center of the castle. We bombarded them with the rest of our catapults, then our soldiers finished them off. We lost barely any, they lost all.

Baby Tea said:
Gah. Stop making me like you. Seriously. I loved the first games. It's my favorite strategy series.
 

Exocet

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Thousands of Teutonic peasants rushing the Pope in Medieval 2.After getting a solid treasury,I built peasants.Thousands of them.I had about 3 full armies of them laying siege on Rome(and a real army in the back,just in case).

What was that mister I-speak-on-God's-behalf-and-declare-a-crusade-on-your-main-city?
If you don't enjoy having legions of pissed off drunken pitchfork wielding peasants at your door,chances are you made some piss-poor decisions in your life,namely ones concerning me.
 

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Was i the only one who never played the battles? I just play the strategy part of the game and let my generals get on with the tedious sword swinging. This started because my computer was just not quite powerful enough to play the battles smoothly. And then it got boring because i would have 5-10 battles going on a turn at the turning point and well it wasn't worth the hassle of micro-managing. Although i did occasionally tune in to watch my sword saints decimate all.
 

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Rome Total War: I was trying to get back a province that had rebelled in Iberia (Spain). I of course was the Romans with one full legion when I was ambushed by the Spainish rebels who had full expierence and the best armor and weapons, also they had superior numbers along with their superior expierence and gear. It was a long, long battle my general died along with most of my legions, all I had left was about seventy archers but I won and I don't think I had any problems in Spain for the rest of the game.
 

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Medieval II: Kingdoms Britannia campaign.

King Henry took his army of elite crusader units complemented with a few units of longbowmen and heavy infantry up through Scotland, conquering every settlement along the way. After taking all of their settlements but Inverness (and one in Ireland. I'm not sure what happened there) my king was beset by a strong force led by the Scottish king with reinforcements from Inverness. Henry's force had been quite depleted in previous battles so I set my forces on a hill and used my cavalry to force the Scottish pikemen to halt, giving my longbowmen the time to greatly weaken them before they reached my heavy infantry who routed them.

After a heroic victory Henry's forces quickly took the castle, and started to concentrate on retraining units. Unfortunately, before any of the units were done training the remaining Scottish forces besieged Inverness, trapping my king inside with a severely depleted army.

After only one turn in preperations the Scots attacked. Using a sallying force of cavalry I destroyed their battering ram and routed a group of men with ladders. When the siege towers reached my walls I was ready with all of my heavy infantry. The Scots greatly outnumbered my own forces and I was forced to retreat to my square behind a line of stakes my longbowmen had planted earlier. Displaying a stupidity that only AI is capable of the new Scottish king charged the stakes and was killed. His death routed his remaining troops, giving Henry his second heroic victory in as many turns and destroying the Scottish factions last general.
 

oliveira8

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Codgo said:
By the way the new Superior Tactics video is out. I've heard that since the PC Gamer review they are working to improve the ship combat which was an issue raised in the review.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M9ITsUw2gME
Even if the game has some massive faults the modding comunity will save it just like ME2.

Also good they talk low! And with backround music it doesnt help :p

P.S: This game so far looks awesome!! Hope it doesnt disapoint!
 

SimuLord

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I'm going to buy the retail box tomorrow, which activates on Steam at 09:00 Pacific time. That way I get an actual disc and game materials plus the ability to have it on the Steam account. Also, it gives me an excuse to go out for breakfast. Mmm...sausage McMuffin...

Where regards most epic Total War battle, I can honestly say that in six years of playing Total War (going all the way back to Medieval 1, which I bought in 2003) I have had so many epic battles that even picking a top 25, never mind a top 1, would be all but impossible. The all-time greatest campaign I ever played involved the Parthians, however...lots of Heroic Victory map markers in that one, especially once the Brutii got their post-Marian units.
 

FluffX

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I have two:
Shogun total war: My 6 legendary swordsman versus about 1500 spearmen. At the end of the battle, about 1500 spears littered the ground.

Rome total war: Totalyhistorical*coughlolcough*-pseudo ninja unit the name of which I forget, and a group of gladiators, verus 3000 peasents. Fun times.
 

gigastrike

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I have one! It was my Scipii campaign in Rome: TW and I was leading an army along the edge of my territory to defend against the carthaginians (i think. No wait, it was the gaul). A series of defeats forced my army (which now consisted of my general and 1 bodyguard (and by that I mean I had 2 men)). I was forced to hide in a town which was quickly surrounded by an army of like 600 men. So I took my 2 men and placed them in the gate. My enemies came down on me like a hammer made out of depleted uranium and adamantine and beat the shit out of me. I got raped, but it was so one-sided that I was laughing my head off.
 

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Medieval 2: 4 units of spear militia, 2 of town watch, 2 units of mailed knights and a general up against about 8 units of assorted italian militia (hooray for italians getting twice the stats on their militia as anybody else!)and more knights than I had. Anyway, I tried to hold them at the gate, charged them in the flank and all that, eventually my last few guys ran to the square. As the enemy ran after them, I ran my cavalry around and hit them in the flank. All but one unit routed, managed to get them off the field leaving me with 2 bodyguards and 4 town watch to fight off 26 italian spear militia. Charged the enemy front with my town watch, 2 died the second they hit combat, but right then my bodyguard hit them in the rear and they routed. I wound up with a castle with a garrison of two town watch. At least I guessed milan was going to try a surprise attack on their allies with that rather large stack.
 

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My most epic victory came at the head of a mid English Army, well equipped, experienced and lead by my greatest general (8 star native at the time, in a defense it was well above 10 star but I don't think that matters at all). Having just wrested a citadel from the Egyptians (antioch I think), my crusading army was a bit worse for wear - and I fully intended to spend a few turns replacing the losses incurred through my ipetious assault. Unfortuantely, I didn't realize that the egyptians apparently REALLY liked this citadel to the point that they threw virtually EVERY non-essential troop into battle against my little stronghold. Outnumbered more than 5:1 it was clear that even my elite troops would be cut to pieces on an open battle, and my only hope was to hold the citadel for four turns while the remainder of my grand crusading army arrived on location.

Unfortunately, it appeared the computer was on to my little scheme and assaulted as soon as it had built seige towers and ladders. My own force of less than 800 men, though entrenched behind the mighty walls of a fully upgraded citadel was facing down an opponent sporting nearly 5,000 soldiers, though, granted, several thousand of these were militia and peasants. The battle started poorly and simply went downhill slowly - my archers and swordsmen were unable to hold the assault at the first wall and a full retreat was called to the second line of defense while a single group of heavy billmen held the line. The second defense layer faired no better than the first, and it too quckly succamb to the overwhelming mass of men pressing the walls. After yet another retreat, my army positioned itself behind the final, and presumably toughest to breach line of defense. My retinue longbowmen finally began earning their keep as they poured deadly missile fire into the massed ranks of my foes, and had I not wasted so many arrows early on in the engagmeent the attack might have been repulsed there.

Once again, the sheer weight of enemies against the walls was pushing my men back, but this time it looked as though they may just hold their ground, and what's more, though my army had sustained more than 40% casualties, the enemy army had lost several thousand men, and clearly their morale was starting to suffer (units were routinging easily at this point). Unfortunately, at this point in the game, the Egyptians decided to send in the last of ther battering rams and moved in several catapults I hadn't noticed to date, rapidly resulting in multiple breaches in the walls. Having realized what was coming I had formed the few hundred melee infantry I had into a skirmish line. Predictably, the mass of troops crashing against my lines were starting to wear heavily - my swordsmen were all but spent, and the only thing keeping them from running was the simple fact that there was nowhere left to go. Sensing all was lost, I drew my archers from the walls (they were occupying the space to keep the towers active as long as possible) and sent them into the battle against the rear lines of the enemy. Having played my last card in the battle, I just sat and watched the horrible bloodshead, waiting patiently for my army to be crushed. Then, for reasons that can only be described as "the game felt sorry for me", the front lines of the enemy began to waver and then retreat, which set off a huge chain reaction and in seconds the entire enemy army was in flight. With nothing to lose, the hundred men still standing pursued the egyptian army out of the city, across the plain and off the map. At the cost of more than 90% of my own army, I crushed the entire readily expendible arm of the egyptian military, and though my Citadel came under repeated assault until relief arrived the position was never again in danger of falling.
 

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wild_quinine said:
Gutted that it's on Steam only - I just can't get with their evil business model. (No second hand sales. Cut you off whenever they feel like it. Take out all your games, if they want. Internet activation for single player games. Forced launch dates, whether you have product in hand or not. No import games. No redress for dispute. All equals: No thanks!)
I think you can sell accounts though. I wonder what would posess them to kill their business model by taking your games but hey, they can do it I suppose. No internet activation though, but EA does - and if you are australlian, you can get the "import" games. I know nothing of the customer service so maybe they really are just evil - if that's what you mean by "No redress for dispute" at least. I had no idea it was a steam only game though.

What I want to know, is what is that "special forces" thing? Is it really 20 dollars extra for some more units?

Also, this thread makes me want to play it more.....shit >_<
 

Doug

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I wish they'd just unlock Empire now - or at least let us preload it. Steam's getting bad these days...so few games avialable to preload, unlocks only at midnight US time, etc.

Ah well, I can at least look up 18th Century tatics to try and work out how they fought at that period. Might give me some hints.