Empire : Total War

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oliveira8

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vivaldiscool said:
oliveira8 said:
vivaldiscool said:
There's just one thing I have to know... Is there anything that replaces those awful crusades?
Theres Native Americans to kill...dont know what you really mean. :p
ME2 The pope would always call crusades, that if you didn't go on, most of your armies would probably desert anyway. It'd get real annoying. Spent 27 years amassing the most effective army the world's ever seen? Ready to unleash your hoards and descend upon Europe with a vengeance? Suddenly... LOLCRUSADE!
Oh The Pope....I never paid attencion to that idiot. At least the Senate in Rome had a purpose.

But no in Empire theres no one to boss you around. Unless you count your allies. They some times request aid or ask for technology and stuff like that.
 

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One more thing I forgot to mention: Bashi-Bazooks.

How the hell can a game with soldiers called Bashi-Bazooks not be an EPIC WIN?!
 

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Undead Dragon King said:
One more thing I forgot to mention: Bashi-Bazooks.

How the hell can a game with soldiers called Bashi-Bazooks not be an EPIC WIN?!
I... seriously don't know what you're talking about
 

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British Empire, stretching far, so very far, and wide. India is fully under the, erm, liberity of the empire (although my constituation monarchy is certainly more liberal and entertains its people better than their absolute monarch's ever did). The America's are largely under my control, and I have trade ships bringing trade goods en-masse to Blighty. The Moroccans tried to block my fleets and armies from entering the Med sea, but the ground invasion lead by my Green Jacket rifle irregulars, royal guards units, and mortars is rapidly showning them the cost of resisting the Empire whilst oppressing there people.

Bizzarely, the dutch forced me to declare war on them when they opened a war with the thirteen colonies, my protectorate at the time. Already drained by their war with France and Spain, the BEF in Europe quickly overran Amsterdam, forcing the United Provinces to impode and there remaining Empire quickly fell to BEF troops in America and India.

Anywho, with India completely secure, America dominated by the Union Jack, its time to put the mediterranean into order - Malta will be the new HQ for the mediterranean fleet, and North Africa will be the latest editions to the Queen's territories, under parliament, naturally. With slavery rapidly becoming history in the borders of homeland and colonial territory, and rifles and precision shells replacing muskets and crude timed explosives, the Empire show's no sign of halting. The Turks might try and oppose us, but we will be victorious. Technologically, numerically, quality wide, and money wise, they are outmatched. The 'sick man of Europe' is looking alittle iller now.
 

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i wish i had a good pc so i could run this, positive thing about this all is that i will pass my exams this time :p (damn you medieval 2 XD )
 

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Ronwue said:
Undead Dragon King said:
One more thing I forgot to mention: Bashi-Bazooks.

How the hell can a game with soldiers called Bashi-Bazooks not be an EPIC WIN?!
I... seriously don't know what you're talking about
Bashi-Bazooks are crappy Ottoman infantry armed with only a sword, a turban, and a flashy red coat. They are bad even at melee (which is all they can do), but their names are untouchable! Would you rather have troops called "Line Infantry" or "Bashi-Bazooks"?
 

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I was tempted to buy this, but I don't think my system can handle it. The ol' girl is getting old and those screenshots of the naval battles really scared her. Think I might end up passing on it... :(
 

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I just wanted to note that in order to understand everything about the game you're going to have to filter through some internet forums. Formations, special abilities, why one troop is more expensive than another but has less infantry in it, explanation of trade... every one of these is unexplained in the documentation or the game itself. The game has some really interesting WTF? questions. Like WTF? Why won't anyone invade over sea's when they're the AI... I'm being totally serious here, if you're Britan, you could set the damn thing on extremely hard, declare war on everything with a pulse, and not win a SINGLE military engagement, and still survive until the end because nobody'd cross the channel to attack London, much less Ireland and Scotland.
 

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Calax said:
I just wanted to note that in order to understand everything about the game you're going to have to filter through some internet forums. Formations, special abilities, why one troop is more expensive than another but has less infantry in it, explanation of trade... every one of these is unexplained in the documentation or the game itself. The game has some really interesting WTF? questions. Like WTF? Why won't anyone invade over sea's when they're the AI... I'm being totally serious here, if you're Britan, you could set the damn thing on extremely hard, declare war on everything with a pulse, and not win a SINGLE military engagement, and still survive until the end because nobody'd cross the channel to attack London, much less Ireland and Scotland.
You think Total War is that complicated cause you need to mess around forums to see which units is stronger? Then what you say of games like Europa Universalis that you need a 3 hour walkthrõugh movie just to understand half of the game.

Anyway I explained the AI not doing naval assaults in another thread I'll do it again.

One of the MANY! complaints about MEdieval 2 was that the AI spent more time playing D-Day around the map (that is naval invasions) then taking care of their own provinces and expanding first into the logical places that is the closests regions. So the campaign map was flooded with boats filled with armies of mythic proportions.

Also around this time in the 17th,18th Europeans stoped sending armies across the sea to their colonies unless really needed. It was to expensive and too risky. One storm and you could lose all of your armies. Why do you thing GB lost the 13 colonies? GB had the power to squash them, but lacked the means. Most of the armies stationed in the Americas were unhappy and most of them were mercenaries. When war happened mobelizing an army to take on the rebels would be more expensive, then having the colonies in the first place. That and they thought they were awesome.

Even Napoleon didnt bother crossing the channel to take on Britain. Britains advantge was always the fact that it was on an island, not many can say they conquered that island. The ones that did were the Romans and they didnt even hold most of it. The Great Napoleon struggled with it the same way that Germany would later. Say what you want to say but Great Britain is a fortress just cause its an Island.

So you can declare historical accurate. But naval invasion was a feature that got removed. And that is being re-introduced later via-AI fixing patch, just so that some factions arent that powerfull or invencible, like BG.

But the game is much more fun picking up the Prussians or those Indian dudes.
 

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The problem is that if a new player wants to pick up Empire, they don't have enough documentation to understand most of what they're doing and have to go online to a FORUM to figure everything out. The lack of the ability of the ai to move across water (and it's seeming inability to do anything with their armies except wander around in territory they already control) just makes the game a piece of cake if you know how to run your economy.
 

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oliveira8 said:
Calax said:
I just wanted to note that in order to understand everything about the game you're going to have to filter through some internet forums. Formations, special abilities, why one troop is more expensive than another but has less infantry in it, explanation of trade... every one of these is unexplained in the documentation or the game itself. The game has some really interesting WTF? questions. Like WTF? Why won't anyone invade over sea's when they're the AI... I'm being totally serious here, if you're Britan, you could set the damn thing on extremely hard, declare war on everything with a pulse, and not win a SINGLE military engagement, and still survive until the end because nobody'd cross the channel to attack London, much less Ireland and Scotland.
You think Total War is that complicated cause you need to mess around forums to see which units is stronger? Then what you say of games like Europa Universalis that you need a 3 hour walkthrõugh movie just to understand half of the game.

Anyway I explained the AI not doing naval assaults in another thread I'll do it again.

One of the MANY! complaints about MEdieval 2 was that the AI spent more time playing D-Day around the map (that is naval invasions) then taking care of their own provinces and expanding first into the logical places that is the closests regions. So the campaign map was flooded with boats filled with armies of mythic proportions.

Also around this time in the 17th,18th Europeans stoped sending armies across the sea to their colonies unless really needed. It was to expensive and too risky. One storm and you could lose all of your armies. Why do you thing GB lost the 13 colonies? GB had the power to squash them, but lacked the means. Most of the armies stationed in the Americas were unhappy and most of them were mercenaries. When war happened mobelizing an army to take on the rebels would be more expensive, then having the colonies in the first place. That and they thought they were awesome.

Even Napoleon didnt bother crossing the channel to take on Britain. Britains advantge was always the fact that it was on an island, not many can say they conquered that island. The ones that did were the Romans and they didnt even hold most of it. The Great Napoleon struggled with it the same way that Germany would later. Say what you want to say but Great Britain is a fortress just cause its an Island.

So you can declare historical accurate. But naval invasion was a feature that got removed. And that is being re-introduced later via-AI fixing patch, just so that some factions arent that powerfull or invencible, like BG.

But the game is much more fun picking up the Prussians or those Indian dudes.
I took all of Europe with the Prussians and invaded America 14 years before game end. I think I'll be able to get both continents by the end of the campaign. Maybe if I'm masochistic about micromanagement, I'll try on India as well.