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Codgo post=7.73496.800725 said:
Maybe if Ubisoft stopped making shoddy and broken ports of console games they would sell more and people wouldn't pirate the titles so much.
Okay, I'm seeing this response to much, can't you think of some other backtalk to this instead of "It's their fault for making crappy console ports"?
 

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smallharmlesskitten post=7.73496.800331 said:
I'm adding ubisoft to my ''pirate this company out of principle list'' (currently EA and now Ubisoft)
What the hell does THAT prove? Aren't you kind of proving THEIR point?

Maybe people need to start buying the entertainment they want or companies will stop having a reason to make it in the first place. You know what we'd have for games if companies stopped making them? Flash games and Shockwave 3d. It would be the fucking "Youtube" of games. Blech.

corroded post=7.73496.800559 said:
Games that can hold their own get bought, regardless of piracy.
This is SO not true. I know TONS of people that never buy games and music because "I can get it for free anyway".

I don't pirate movies, games, music, or programs. People put a lot of hard work into them (regardless of wether or not I LIKE them). I have no right to steal their hard work. If they are losing money to theft, it could mean a LOT of people that are out of work if the company fails.
 

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Jimmyjames post=7.73496.801133 said:
smallharmlesskitten post=7.73496.800331 said:
I'm adding ubisoft to my ''pirate this company out of principle list'' (currently EA and now Ubisoft)
What the hell does THAT prove? Aren't you kind of proving THEIR point?

Maybe people need to start buying the entertainment they want or companies will stop having a reason to make it in the first place. You know what we'd have for games if companies stopped making them? Flash games and Shockwave 3d. It would be the fucking "Youtube" of games. Blech.

corroded post=7.73496.800559 said:
Games that can hold their own get bought, regardless of piracy.
This is SO not true. I know TONS of people that never buy games and music because "I can get it for free anyway".

I don't pirate movies, games, music, or programs. People put a lot of hard work into them (regardless of wether or not I LIKE them). I have no right to steal their hard work. If they are losing money to theft, it could mean a LOT of people that are out of work if the company fails.
Not.Our.Problem.

Maybe if they stopped continually screwing us over, released half broken games, calling us thieves, and liars, and scum, we might be half assed to buy their game.

As it stands, I don't let anything from Ubisoft NEAR my computer.
 

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ElArabDeMagnifico post=7.73496.801455 said:
Aries_Split post=7.73496.801441 said:
As it stands, I don't let anything from Ubisoft NEAR my computer.
I'm worried about Far Cry 2, I haven't had a good history with Ubisoft either.
I was through with them when they released a Crack as a fix for their game.
 

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Aries_Split post=7.73496.801441 said:
Maybe if they stopped continually screwing us over, released half broken games, calling us thieves, and liars, and scum, we might be half assed to buy their game.

As it stands, I don't let anything from Ubisoft NEAR my computer.
So that gives you grounds to steal their game? I think Uwe Boll movies are really shitty, but that doesn't give me the right to go rip off his DVDs.

You have a backwards mentality, brother. Ripping it off isn't doing anything but making them justified in calling us "thieves, and liars, and scum". If a person has a problem with the game, DON'T PLAY IT, DON'T PIRATE IT. PAY IT NO ATTENTION AT ALL. It will be a much stronger message.
 

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Jimmyjames post=7.73496.801744 said:
Aries_Split post=7.73496.801441 said:
Maybe if they stopped continually screwing us over, released half broken games, calling us thieves, and liars, and scum, we might be half assed to buy their game.

As it stands, I don't let anything from Ubisoft NEAR my computer.
So that gives you grounds to steal their game? I think Uwe Boll movies are really shitty, but that doesn't give me the right to go rip off his DVDs.

You have a backwards mentality, brother. Ripping it off isn't doing anything but making them justified in calling us "thieves, and liars, and scum". If a person has a problem with the game, DON'T PLAY IT, DON'T PIRATE IT. PAY IT NO ATTENTION AT ALL. It will be a much stronger message.
How strange you seemed to ignore the rest of my post. I never stated I stole their games. I stated the grounds for people not BUYING their games.

Re read my posts, as I said "I don't let Ubisoft NEAR my computer"
 

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Jimmyjames post=7.73496.801133 said:
smallharmlesskitten post=7.73496.800331 said:
I'm adding ubisoft to my ''pirate this company out of principle list'' (currently EA and now Ubisoft)
What the hell does THAT prove? Aren't you kind of proving THEIR point?

Maybe people need to start buying the entertainment they want or companies will stop having a reason to make it in the first place. You know what we'd have for games if companies stopped making them? Flash games and Shockwave 3d. It would be the fucking "Youtube" of games. Blech.
Jimmy Jimmy jimmy. Cool it mate.

I add these companies to my list only when they do retarded shit. It is effectively a boycott, however if there is a game I really, really, really want, I will pirate it if it hasn't been put into the bargain bin already
 

Jimmyjames

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I knew I should have explained that better....

Let me generalize some words and it will change it to fit what I meant a little more:

Let me remind you that this is a thread about PIRACY, not crappy games.

"So that gives A PERSON grounds to steal their game? I think Uwe Boll movies are really shitty, but that doesn't give me the right to go rip off his DVDs.

Pirating games isn't doing anything but making them justified in calling us "thieves, and liars, and scum". If a person has a problem with the game, DON'T PLAY IT, DON'T PIRATE IT. PAY IT NO ATTENTION AT ALL. It will be a much stronger message."
 

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smallharmlesskitten post=7.73496.801779 said:
Jimmy Jimmy jimmy. Cool it mate.
Bullshit. You're a hypocrite.

I add these companies to my list only when they do retarded shit. It is effectively a boycott, however if there is a game I really, really, really want, I will pirate it if it hasn't been put into the bargain bin already
So you're OK with their games or the company if you don't pay for it? If you're boycotting it, then don't play it at all. Don't try to justify your theft by calluing it a boycott. You're still enjoying their product.
 

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Pirating games = sneaking into a movie theater.

Even if the movie is bad, you still snuck in the back when others had to pay.

Its still cheating, and it reduces the incentive for the products you like to be made.

I hope somebody comes out with unbreakable copy protection someday.

teh intarnetz: "You will never find a more wretched hive of scum and villainy."
 

smallharmlesskitten

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Jimmyjames post=7.73496.801822 said:
smallharmlesskitten post=7.73496.801779 said:
Jimmy Jimmy jimmy. Cool it mate.
Bullshit. You're a hypocrite.

I add these companies to my list only when they do retarded shit. It is effectively a boycott, however if there is a game I really, really, really want, I will pirate it if it hasn't been put into the bargain bin already
So you're OK with their games or the company if you don't pay for it? If you're boycotting it, then don't play it at all. Don't try to justify your theft by calluing it a boycott. You're still enjoying their product.
I'm not going to win here am I.... If this winning had any tangible value of course
 

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smallharmlesskitten post=7.73496.801867 said:
I'm not going to win here am I.... If this winning had any tangible value of course
There's no "winning" or losing in a forum... only opinions. Yours, mine, everyone elses. But that doesn't mean I don't think you're wrong.

But too true... it doesn't really matter. I doubt either of us will lose any sleep tonight.
 

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Jimmyjames post=7.73496.801920 said:
smallharmlesskitten post=7.73496.801867 said:
I'm not going to win here am I.... If this winning had any tangible value of course
There's no "winning" or losing in a forum... only opinions. Yours, mine, everyone elses. But that doesn't mean I don't think you're wrong.

But too true... it doesn't really matter. I doubt either of us will lose any sleep tonight.
Umm just wondering. How am I a hypocrite?
 

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smallharmlesskitten post=7.73496.800331 said:
I'm adding ubisoft to my ''pirate this company out of principle list'' (currently EA and now Ubisoft)
This only works on protesting DRM, and cracking games you already own.

Everything else makes the oppressor win.
 

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ElArabDeMagnifico post=7.73496.803005 said:
smallharmlesskitten post=7.73496.800331 said:
I'm adding ubisoft to my ''pirate this company out of principle list'' (currently EA and now Ubisoft)
This only works on protesting DRM, and cracking games you already own.

Everything else makes the oppressor win.
Like I probably haven't said before it is for DRM OR being whiny babies about the 'rampant' piracy.

Heres a hint: Stop making Shitty games. We're gonna have another ET soon
 

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smallharmlesskitten post=7.73496.802744 said:
Umm just wondering. How am I a hypocrite?
Because you're saying you're "boycotting" a company... but if it's a game you reaaaallllyyy want, you'll pirate it. You're not boycotting anything, you're just pirating games you refuse to pay retail for.

If you really want to boycott a company, don't go to their site, don't play their games, and don't support anything that the company advertises on.

For example.... I don't like EA's invasive DRM for "Spore". So guess what: I'm not buying it, not playing it. Even a cracked version. I'd still really like to play it, but until the release a version where I don't need the DRM, I won't install it.

And you know what? If you don't like their "shitty" games... NO ONE is forcing you to buy it, right? So why does YOUR opinion that it is "shitty" make it OK for you to steal?

Another example- I just dropped $1200 on the Adobe CS3 suite. Now, why did I do that if I could have EASILY downloaded it? Because it's fair. I can easily make that money off a job I did WITH the software, and it's only fair that I compensate THEM for making that possible.

If you have to justify to yourself that something is OK to do, it probably isn't Ok to do in the first place.