English as a second language.

[GrizzlerBorno]

So is it....intrinsically Wrong that I enjoy speaking English more than my "Mother Tongue", Bangla? And I don't mean I enjoy speaking in English when I'm forced to. I mean I Literally THINK in English. That's right. My "thoughts" aren't in my native language. So, is that Wrong? Does it make me a....*gasp* Pretentious ponce? (which if you can't tell is my irrational fear. Pretentious-ponce'ophobia, I call it)

I DO have my reasons, mind you. Bangla, my mother tongue......is EFFING hard! To speak AND to write. It's also quite dated as most new Technical concepts (and by new I mean post 1950) have no equivalent words. So everyone here(and I DO mean everyone) does speak a kind of patchwork language with many English words stuck in to fill gaps.

Also. Bangla has no concept of Sarcasm. No joke. You cannot IMAGINE how much this irritates a Self-titled Cynic such as myself...

So, anyway, yeah? Is this "immoral", in your opinion?
Also, any other ESL speakers with the same Dilemma? I'd love to know.

 

[Shirokurou]

I'm Russian and I think in both languages.

 

[Jim From Accounting]

I'm Australian I speak in english and sometimes in drunkard. And a small bit of Japanese

 

[glyphseeker]

take this as you will, but that sounds like a personal problem not trying to be a jerk or anything. I mean i've not had that problem with spanish but i guess you can take the ball and run either way.
on one hand you can go with the whole immoral thing and feel terrible for the rest of your life
or
you can just go for it and just adapt to your thought-chain that is non-bangla
again your decision

 

[Alien Mole]

Flemish native; took to English for some reason and it's probably at a higher level than my Flemish. It takes me active effort -not- to speak English which annoys people to no end. I can think fully in English, but I can't do the same in Dutch. I'm actually happier, calmer, more balanced, more confident and more sociable in English too. Can't explain that. It's like I have two different personas. (If any psychologist/smart person/fellow linguist can explain this phenomenon, please do - I haven't been able to figure it out yet)

Does have its advantages. English is an extremely common language in Belgium but a proper British accent is still quite rare, so people tend to find it extremely charming, and I'm quite proud to say that it typically takes a phonologist to recognise that I'm not a native speaker, but I do often feel like I'm 'in between' two languages. This in itself doesn't seem particularly uncommon, but I still find it interesting.

 

[Fooz]

nothing wrong with that, you just prefer a more modern language

i like it when people from Sweden speak English, their accent is awesome

 

[kortin]

English is my mother tongue, but I've actually caught myself thinking in japanese so...

 

[Naheal]

English is my mother tongue, but I've actually caught myself thinking in japanese so...

This for the most part. I prefer Japanese, but I speak English because I simply know the language better.

 

[GrizzlerBorno]

on one hand you can go with the whole immoral thing and feel terrible for the rest of your life
or
you can just go for it and just adapt to your thought-chain that is non-bangla
again your decision

I don't "feel terrible". Maybe a little guilty, especially when my parents point it out.
And yeah, there's nothing I can do BUT adapt. I'm well, past the point of no return, i.e. I don't think I could think I bangla for a full minute, even if I actively TRIED, without reverting back to english at some point.

nothing wrong with that, you just prefer a more modern language

i like it when people from Sweden speak English, their accent is awesome

Like Notch? God, I love hearing Notch speak XD!

 

[Catchy Slogan]

No. There is nothing wrong with enjoying another language more than your first. Just, because Bangla was your first language doesn't make it 'right'. Use whichever language you feel the most comfortable.

I wish I could learn a different language. I suck at languages. They're just not my thing.

 

[TiloXofXTanto]

So is it....intrinsically Wrong that I enjoy speaking English more than my "Mother Tongue", Bangla? And I don't mean I enjoy speaking in English when I'm forced to. I mean I Literally THINK in English. That's right. My "thoughts" aren't in my native language. So, is that Wrong? Does it make me a....*gasp* Pretentious ponce? (which if you can't tell is my irrational fear. Pretentious-ponce'ophobia, I call it)

For what reason is this wrong, speaking/preferring/thinking in a different tongue =/= a lack of nationalism, if that's your problem.

I personally think in all the little bits of languages I know, constantly switching randomly in conversations and annoying everyone around me. There's not any real problem in preferring any one tongue to another. I personally wish I could think entirely in Basque, even though I speak English, why, because it's totally unique in its largely Indo-European dominated region, and no one here in America would have any idea how to begin to understand it.

 

[Nazz3]

Same here, im finnish. I think in both English and Finnish and sometimes throw in a little Swedish even though im terrible at it

 

[HotFezz8]

So is it....intrinsically Wrong that I enjoy speaking English more than my "Mother Tongue", Bangla? And I don't mean I enjoy speaking in English when I'm forced to. I mean I Literally THINK in English. That's right. My "thoughts" aren't in my native language. So, is that Wrong? Does it make me a....*gasp* Pretentious ponce? (which if you can't tell is my irrational fear. Pretentious-ponce'ophobia, I call it)

I DO have my reasons, mind you. Bangla, my mother tongue......is EFFING hard! To speak AND to write. It's also quite dated as most new Technical concepts (and by new I mean post 1950) have no equivalent words. So everyone here(and I DO mean everyone) does speak a kind of patchwork language with many English words stuck in to fill gaps.

Also. Bangla has no concept of Sarcasm. No joke. You cannot IMAGINE how much this irritates a Self-titled Cynic such as myself...

So, anyway, yeah? Is this "immoral", in your opinion?
Also, any other ESL speakers with the same Dilemma? I'd love to know.

doesn't make you a ponce (or as we call them in england; a dick head ;-) ) but you may need to be careful you don't forget your first language...

 

[holy_secret]

nothing wrong with that, you just prefer a more modern language

i like it when people from Sweden speak English, their accent is awesome

Why thank you.

I would never think in English unless I am making an effort to do so. Maybe if I'm in the zone or something (like when I go abroad and am speaking English exclusively), it might happen. It does sound very strange indeed to think in another language.

But seriously. You havae no sarcasm? I have a Bengali friend. I'm gonna ask him about it. He's about the most sarcastic and wise-cracking guy I know. Poor guys!

 

[Just_A_Glitch]

I feel that if I was fluent in a second language, I'd enjoy speaking it more than English. So no, I don't think it is immoral to speak a second language more than your native tongue.

 

[Shivarage]

Thinking in your second language proves you know it xP