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mrhappy1489

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IndomitableSam said:
Foyer.

Americans, it's foy-eh (basically, I won't get into french intonations)... not foi-er. It's french. Foy-eh. Every time someone says foi-er, I get angry. Say it with me: Foy-eh. Or maybe Foih-eh would be more appropriate.
Is it wrong that I read foy-eh in a Boston accent? I live in Australian, so there is any number of words being pronounced incorrectly. Being some sort of go between for slang from the UK and the US means that we get the worst of both worlds.
 

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IndomitableSam said:
Foyer.

Americans, it's foy-eh (basically, I won't get into french intonations)... not foi-er. It's french. Foy-eh. Every time someone says foi-er, I get angry. Say it with me: Foy-eh. Or maybe Foih-eh would be more appropriate.
In English, 'foy-er' is actually the correct pronunciation (http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/foyer). Borrowed words aren't just words of one language that speakers of another happen to be using; they change and develop differently to suit their new linguistic environment. In other words, an English-speaker saying 'foy-er' isn't mispronouncing the French 'foy-eh', they are using an English word which is based on a French word (which the French used to spell differently, and which is based on a Latin word, so you'd better start saying 'focarium' if you want to act all high and mighty).

Seriously, people, I don't go to Japan and insist that they say 'swet-er' instead of 'say-tah' just because the word entered Japanese through English.
 

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IndomitableSam said:
T0ad 0f Truth said:
IndomitableSam said:
Devetta said:
Yeah but Foy-eh and aluminium sound stupid :p

If you can speak English, you can speak French. Both are from the same root language, anyway. Spanish, Italian, and a couple dozen other languages. All similar. I don't know more than a word or two of Spanish or Italian, but I can guess at how they're supposed to be pronounced. I also haven't taken French since about the 8th grade, but I can still pronounce some words properly.

How does foy-er sound better than foih-eh? It sounds like someone from Boston saying "Fire". It's a french word for entry room. If you can't say it properly, call it an entrance room. Or something.
Yeah but French, Spanish, Italian etc, are all romance languages, as opposed to English, Dutch, German etc, which are germanic languages. Sure if you trace it all the way back to latin we have similarities, but all in all the languages themselves still quite different. It's not like they're neighbours or anything, we share a couple of words, even the French ones that the Normans brought over were mangled quite sufficiently by the old english speaking Saxons.
 

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IndomitableSam said:
T0ad 0f Truth said:
IndomitableSam said:
Devetta said:
Yeah but Foy-eh and aluminium sound stupid :p

If you can speak English, you can speak French. Both are from the same root language, anyway. Spanish, Italian, and a couple dozen other languages. All similar. I don't know more than a word or two of Spanish or Italian, but I can guess at how they're supposed to be pronounced. I also haven't taken French since about the 8th grade, but I can still pronounce some words properly.

How does foy-er sound better than foih-eh? It sounds like someone from Boston saying "Fire". It's a french word for entry room. If you can't say it properly, call it an entrance room. Or something.

"Both are from the same root language"?!

English is a West Germanic language derived from Proto-Germanic, while french is a Romance language, derived from Latin. Yes there are Latin inflances in English but saying it is the root language is a large exaggeration.
 
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Actually, English is descended from German, not French. Different roots. The reason English is so messed up is that a few busybodies in the 1700s decided that English needed a standard set of grammar rules. Unfortunately, they chose the rules for French grammar to develop the English rules from, not the Germanic rules whic actually would have made sense given that English is Germanic in origin! /pedantic nitpicking
Actually, English is derived from both French and German (and more)... being ruled by Romans, Angles, Saxons, Normans, Scots, Dutch, Hanoverians... and Saxons once again rather does that to a language. It would be a fair point that English is a 'West Germanic' language at its core, but it's thoroughly infiltrated with Romance vocabulary and lingual conventions that it doesn't really make much of a difference. The thing is, you can't really say that English is 'descended from German' as that would depend on your definition of 'German'. Hochdeutsch as we know it has only been prevalent for about a hundred and fifty years in what we now know as Germany. Before that, vernacular, regional and colloquial German had as little bearing on Prussian German as Spanish did to French (similar, but by no means mutually intelligible). Directly, English is associated best with Frisian, Scots and (predictably) Middle English. Lingual evolution is best looked south (i.e. Latin/Greek) rather than east (i.e. the pre-cursors to Allemannic German and the various Low/High German dialects).

Oddly, in all of this, the Danes are left out, since Angeln (the ultimate root of the label 'English') is in modern-day lower-Schleswig! Yet Danish is obviously non-Anglo-Frisian, ironically.
Holy crap! I've been out-nitpicked! And out-pedanted! All in a single shot!

Sir, I salute the skill you wield in your pedantic nit-picking! You are truely a master!

(please let him read this as the smart-Alec and friendly joke that it is supposed to be)

Captcha: rum do
What the hell, Captcha? You went back on the sauce?
 

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Eclipse Dragon said:
When I was little, I pronounced "herb" with a non silent "h".
Unless you're from the Caribbean, that's how you pronounce "herb".

OT: Recently I've seen people fucking up the spelling of medieval in all sorts of ways. Someone recently wrote it as "midi evil".

In terms of pronunciation, get a room full of people to try and pronounce Deus Ex.
 

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While they're not specific to a group of people, I have a mate who says renember instead of remember which was pretty funny the first time he said it. The best one of his though has to do with Tottenham, his favourite soccer team. He pronounces it Tottleham, I kid you not, I have no idea how he gets that from Tottenham but it is always fun to try and get him to say it.
 

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Devetta said:
I think the only thing that bugs me is how Americans say aluminium.
Funny thing, that... we also spell it wrong. I say it that way because it's been spelled aluminum my entire life, in chemistry classes, metal shops, even in the military where I dabbled in shaping aircraft aluminum. The first time I heard "aluminium" pronounced (I believe I was 17 or 18... some time around the turn of the millennium), my gut reaction was "Why the fuck did you add another i? Are you stupid?"

It's almost like we speak a different dialect...

That said, I hate chatspeak with all the burning rage of a thousand ancient sun gods. I have a difficult time not killing people who pronounce the acronym "LOL". Oh, and there was also this kid I met online who, I shit you not, used the term "trollface" as a complete statement to indicate lack of seriousness in a previous statement. Out loud. Needless to say, he's on my blocked list in that particular service.
 

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Oh, these are fun. One I've heard a few times is where some people pronounce "Turret" as "Turrent". I swear, the next time I see that I'm going to behead the person who fucking says or writes that. Fucking seriously.
My roommate does that all the time! I have started throwing whatever object is handy at him to get him to pronounce it correctly.

OT: I cannot count how many times I have heard the word "library" referred to as a "Liberry". No, no, no, no, NO, NO, NO, NO, N0, NO, NO, NO, NOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Every single time I hear someone butcher it like that it makes me wish a badger would trundle out of the woods and beat them. Also when the word "ask" is pronounced "axe" I die a little inside.

"Hey, can I axe you a question?"

No, no you may not. You may however, go purchase a dictionary and a public speaking book.
 

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Apart from Americanisms that drive me insame ('erb', 'carmel' and 'aluminum' chief among them), I've heard a Chinese lecturer at my university say 'components' and have it sound like 'kahunas' (everything else he says is just as bad, but that is one I remember for its commonality), I've heard people pronounce 'scythe' as 'skaith', Northernlion of Youtube says 'vaguely' as something like 'vaggly', and I myself have trouble deciding whether to pronounce 'route' as 'root' or 'raut' (as in 'out').

Thyunda said:
Also there's this word 'nesh' that really pisses me off.
What's that meant to be? Or is it every instance of '-ness'?
 

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Eclipse Dragon said:
When I was little, I pronounced "herb" with a non silent "h".
To this day the word "h'ordeuvres" makes my brain hurt.
Uh... Herb is supposed to have a non-silent H.
 

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loc978 said:
That said, I hate chatspeak with all the burning rage of a thousand ancient sun gods. I have a difficult time not killing people who pronounce the acronym "LOL".
Here's some bonus brainbreaking: "lol" is the Dutch word for "fun". We actually use that word and have used it for a lot onger then the internet (or text speak) has been around (pronounced similarly to lawl, but with a shorter "o" sound, like in "of").

OT: One of my friends who's quite fluent in English, still has the most horrible accent, and tends to speak all the letters in a word. I actually couldn't help myself and yelled "soared" at him after he kept mangling "Sword" to "swort"
 

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Atomic Spy Crab said:
an annoyed writer said:
Atomic Spy Crab said:
an annoyed writer said:
Atomic Spy Crab said:
an annoyed writer said:
Atomic Spy Crab said:
an annoyed writer said:
Oh, these are fun. One I've heard a few times is where some people pronounce "Turret" as "Turrent". I swear, the next time I see that I'm going to behead the person who fucking says or writes that. Fucking seriously.
Turrent
Okay, so which kind of sword do you want me to use? Pick one:

The scimitar
Gotcha. I'll be there whenever I feel like it.
I await your arrival, be aware though I have my 3 50cal mounted turrents and daedric artifacts.
Congratulations. You just bumped yourself up a notch in my queue of important things to Murder, immolate, annihilate, eviscerate, destroy, and/or kill. You're now slightly more important than the mutant rodents downstairs. I hope that makes you happy.
I'll give you the same choice you gave me, which gun do you want me to shoot you with?
http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_L1vQH-KJXJE/S-k2QPm-2UI/AAAAAAAAAzw/tqipFjZuN7k/s1600/MarauderGuns_labeled.jpg
Surprise me, if you can see me coming. I'd advise you up the ante at least a little bit though. You fail to represent a good challenge from what you've presented thus far. Get a Metal Gear or something.

Anyway, back on topic: Here's a rather funny one I've heard before, from some Russian dude: he pronounced "pennies" as "penis", so I'm at the cash register and he's giving me my change and he's like "and here's two penis for your change!". Had to stifle laughter there.
 

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Jasper van Heycop said:
Have you ever heard Yahtzee pronounce "inventory", I don't think thats how you're supposed to say it. The worst is in his bioshock review (look it up yourself I'm to lazy to post a link)
Really? I pronounce it the same way. Probably a regional thing, his pronunciation would be considered a correct variation where I live in England anyway.

I've heard the word 'meme' pronounced a number of different ways, usually wrong.
 

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err, two really piss me off

1) a friend of mine says balcony as bulkony... the fuck is that about
2) people who say tuff instead of tooth. annoying thing, a lot of those people then go on to say TOOTHpaste, not tuffpaste
 

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the way rihanna pronounces yorkshire (york-shurr) on the capital fm advert annoys me to no end "what up YAARKSHEER!"

on another note; in warriors:legends of troy did anybody else get annoyed with the pronunciation of some of the characters names ie:
Odysseus (o-diss-ee-us) becoming (o-diss-ay-us)
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Zeus (zoos) becoming (zay-us)

did anybody else notice that? have i been pronouncing greek names wrong?
i know they arent english words i was just curious
x
 

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I've always pronounce melee and meme as me-lee and me-me due to not having heard the words spoken until much later than I learned them. Saying meilei and meem sounds really wrong to me.

APLovecraft said:
on another note; in warriors:legends of troy did anybody else get annoyed with the pronunciation of some of the characters names ie:
Odysseus (o-diss-ee-us) becoming (o-diss-ay-us)
&
Zeus (zoos) becoming (zay-us)

did anybody else notice that? have i been pronouncing greek names wrong?
i know they arent english words i was just curious
x
Believe most languages/dialects are wrong. In Swedish we say Zeus like Sävs(sounds as stupid as it looks). The ancient Greek way was Zeús.
 

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Smallells said:
That's cultural differences. In England at least, you pronounce "herb" with the "h".
Tropicaz said:
I'm pretty sure you say herbs with a 'h'. I never understood why americans say erbs.
SL33TBL1ND said:
Uh... Herb is supposed to have a non-silent H.
Well then... good to know I got it right the first time.
Darn American schools telling me I was wrong.