Huh... this reminds me of a term from my anthropology class: the image of the limited good. Even if a "good" is technically isn't finite, those that have it tend to view it as finite. Not much to add beyond that, as I find this whole thing childish.
entitled gamers? a good example going on right now
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Being a big Halo fan, I had a similar issue a while back.
A little history; I used to do a Halo themed fan comic. (No, I'm not begging for views by posting a link) During that time I made a lot of friends in and around the Halo community. Many of them had received the specially granted "Recon" armor for their multiplayer Spartan. And this was a big deal if you were a fan. The only way you could get it was to be a Bungie employee or have it awarded to you by a Bungie employee.
Almost 2 years after the game came out, the amount of people who had it was still relatively small. But once Halo 3: ODST came out, it became available to anyone who jumped through several hoops and acquired some reasonably difficult achievements and/or feats in multiplayer and FireFight mode.
Good and otherwise kind people who I'd come to call friends... went batshit crazy over this. As if opening it up to the dirty noobs somehow erased the 2 DAMN YEARS that they had gotten to use this limited skin.
These were good people, but for some reason this digital goody made them feel special in some certain way and the piece of kit going mainstream made them feel less so. I guess I can understand how they would have preferred it to stay unique to them, but I don't understand going to a website, calling out the devs, and all the fury over it.
A little history; I used to do a Halo themed fan comic. (No, I'm not begging for views by posting a link) During that time I made a lot of friends in and around the Halo community. Many of them had received the specially granted "Recon" armor for their multiplayer Spartan. And this was a big deal if you were a fan. The only way you could get it was to be a Bungie employee or have it awarded to you by a Bungie employee.
Almost 2 years after the game came out, the amount of people who had it was still relatively small. But once Halo 3: ODST came out, it became available to anyone who jumped through several hoops and acquired some reasonably difficult achievements and/or feats in multiplayer and FireFight mode.
Good and otherwise kind people who I'd come to call friends... went batshit crazy over this. As if opening it up to the dirty noobs somehow erased the 2 DAMN YEARS that they had gotten to use this limited skin.
These were good people, but for some reason this digital goody made them feel special in some certain way and the piece of kit going mainstream made them feel less so. I guess I can understand how they would have preferred it to stay unique to them, but I don't understand going to a website, calling out the devs, and all the fury over it.
"manchildren" is just like it says on the tin, a "man" who also fits the term "child". It's a derogatory term for an adult who acts like a child, usually by means of bitching and moaning about how life is unfair or whatever other "life lesson" they should have learned long before they became an adult.WeepingAngels said:
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Eh. It's not really entitled to be upset when you purchase something under the understanding that it is a rare, limited-time offer only for the company to pull a 180 on that and remove the restrictions. I don't think I would be too upset about it if I had bought any of them, just because I've never really been bothered about how I or my things compare to other people's, but there's definitely valid reason to be upset. It's at best dishonest and a dick move, and at worst a breach of contract (though I doubt it would fit the legal definition of such), and people have every right to be upset about it.
"There's that word again!"
The word "entitled" is soon going to go the same way that words such as "sexism," "emo," "biased," "troll," "boycott," and "racism" have gone. Misused, abused, and overused to the point where nobody takes it seriously anymore. I'm calling it now.
Riot has stated their Rationale though behind it. Since the time the skins were released the LoL community has grown exponentially. So therefore they want to give their now very vast community one more chance to grab these skins because a majority of them weren't playing at the time of their initial release. If they didn't reimburse the players who initially got the skins then that would be an issue but they are.5ilver said:
Riot has what appears to me a very big love/hate relationship with its community. Its by far the most involved company out there with its fan base then any other, but they also make changes that pisses people off or makes other people happy and then piss other different people off. Like they are revamping a pool of their much older champs which I've seen several people complain about but then I see a few who are the "Ugh. Finally" variety.
Didn't the state of Washington just pass a law that changes words like penmanship and journeyman to more gender neutral words like handwriting and journey-level?Deshara said:I am likely the most radical liberal commi in this entire forum and I have literally never met somebody who thought the term "policeman" was sexist. Yes, it mentions a specific gender. Which is a reference to the fact that, once upon a time, all police persons were men. That was when the term came about, and it's still used because the people saying "policeman" aren't thinking about the suppression of women's rights but about cops.WeepingAngels said:Some do and some don't. I think you are missing the point though.weirdo8977 said:but....we do still say mailman and policeman. unless you're joking in which case this is me right now:WeepingAngels said:
...why is Riot caving into these nimrods by giving back the RP they spent on them and giving them special borders?
If the skins are going to be on sale for the same amount of money (and not cheaper), than they have no reason to ***** and whine. Even if they are on sale for less, tough shit. Your skin isn't going anywhere.
I've lost what little respect I had left for Riot by justifying this behavior.
If the skins are going to be on sale for the same amount of money (and not cheaper), than they have no reason to ***** and whine. Even if they are on sale for less, tough shit. Your skin isn't going anywhere.
I've lost what little respect I had left for Riot by justifying this behavior.
I will make it simple so that even OP can understand it.
- A skin is supposed to be limited edition
- I buy the skin because it is limited edition
- Skin later on stops being limited edition which implies that I bought a normal skin even tho I would have never bought it
See? I just wasted money. I certainly wouldn't have done that if the skin wasn't limited
And no, they aren't giving a refund. They are giving virtual points that have no value back. If they were giving a refund, they would give back the money, on my bank account. They are basically giving you something that has no worth and they have an infinite amount of.
Some people are collectors. They buy stuff that is rare. They won't buy stuff that isn't rare. What Riot did is fraud. False marketing.
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To clarify, I don't even play LoL nor do I buy skins. It just pisses me off that OP and many other people here use the word "entitled" so easily and even try to make it sound bad. First of all, learn the meaning of the word. If I pay for something, you can bet that I'm entitled to it. Entitled is in fact a very positive and nice word.
The phrase you guys want to use is "false entitlement".
And second, stop being so blind. If Riot said it's a limited edition and then later, AFTER the people bought it changed it to a non limited edition, it's Riot's fault. Yes, people are entitled to a limited edition skin if they bought a limited edition skin. That's how the fucking market works. If you buy something, you're entitled to it. Because entitled isn't a bad word.
- A skin is supposed to be limited edition
- I buy the skin because it is limited edition
- Skin later on stops being limited edition which implies that I bought a normal skin even tho I would have never bought it
See? I just wasted money. I certainly wouldn't have done that if the skin wasn't limited
And no, they aren't giving a refund. They are giving virtual points that have no value back. If they were giving a refund, they would give back the money, on my bank account. They are basically giving you something that has no worth and they have an infinite amount of.
Some people are collectors. They buy stuff that is rare. They won't buy stuff that isn't rare. What Riot did is fraud. False marketing.
EDIT:
To clarify, I don't even play LoL nor do I buy skins. It just pisses me off that OP and many other people here use the word "entitled" so easily and even try to make it sound bad. First of all, learn the meaning of the word. If I pay for something, you can bet that I'm entitled to it. Entitled is in fact a very positive and nice word.
The phrase you guys want to use is "false entitlement".
And second, stop being so blind. If Riot said it's a limited edition and then later, AFTER the people bought it changed it to a non limited edition, it's Riot's fault. Yes, people are entitled to a limited edition skin if they bought a limited edition skin. That's how the fucking market works. If you buy something, you're entitled to it. Because entitled isn't a bad word.