Escape to the Movies: Avatar

[CrispyMyth]

I generally agree with Movie Bob, but this is bs. This movie is just visual masturbation, I would prefer to spend my money on a flm that actually has depth, and can immerse me.

It should have been pointed out that this movie is designed to appeal to people with a limited mental capacity.

Troll.

And yes, I am falling for your troll. I am hardly a person of "limited mental capacity" and I thoroughly enjoyed Avatar. Of course, you don't know me, and need not take my word for it that I am quite intelligent. Let me make a couple points however...

First, Roger Ebert has given Avatar 4 out of 4 stars and stated Cameron is "king of the world" again. I would like to see you call out Roger Ebert as someone of "limited mental capacity." Go ahead, try to do that. Back up your assertion with some kind of fact to that matter while you do it, though, or you just prove you're a pathetic troll.

Second, you obviously haven't seen the movie, how can you pretend to have anything of relevance to say about it? I will not ever take any criticism seriously when the individual hasn't even seen, read, or *been there* to actually know what they are talking about.

Your attempt at a jab is facile, and you should be ashamed to ever post here again.

Yeah, perhaps I did go alittle far in my condemntation, R. Ebert is certainly no brainless yokel. Had I known this prior I wouldnt have been so self righteous, but you can hardly call me a troll for simply stating my opinion. I do however, stand by the premise that the film is simply visual masturbation, had it been some unkown director without Camerons vision and cinematographic skill, I assure you the film would have been viewed as a shallow, cliched flop. The 3D certainly didnt hinder it either.

I apologize for calling you a troll. I think you might want to be more careful how you put your opinion across is all. For some reason, your comment about "limited mental capacity" really bothered me. I felt it was quite offensive, hence my rather too blunt response.

I really think you need to see a movie before you make the kind of statement you did, however. I stick by that. You REALLY aren't seeing the movie in the trailers, trust me. The ending actually surprised me, and I am VERY rarely surprised by ANY movies anymore (it really bugs the hell out of my Daughter too, I am not allowed to talk while we watch rentals anymore).

I'll leave you with this thought: If Avatar doesn't succeed, do you think we'll be seeing much of this new 3D and mo-cap CGI? EVERYONE, even the ones that didn't review the movie positively as a whole, have said the technology is astounding, and it is. Frankly, I would really like to see this tech with even more of a fleshed out story and characters (I don't think the story for Avatar was bad, but it could have been better, certainly). For that reason, I think all movie lovers should see Avatar, and hope it succeeds.

 

[CrispyMyth]

"The plot was kept so basic to not distract us from all this immersion"?????!!!!????

I laughed my ass off when I saw Avatar's trailer. If there's one thing I can't stand about movies, it's clichés. What does Avatar have that hasn't been done a billion times before? Kinda reminds me of Gears of War: compensating poor story with amazing visuals. If I don't care about the characters or their motivations, I can't give less of a shit about the rest of the whole movie.

Please, somebody tell me that Avatar has some unique twist, turn, moment, character, new idea or ANYTHING that would make me want to watch massive battle scenes again. What I've seen thus far doesn't give away any of the previously mentioned.

And before you all start ripping my post to pieces: my opinion is based entirely on what I've seen and heard about the movie, I haven't seen it.

Who died and made you the king of intellectual story-telling?

All of this raving is retarded, this movie is awesome and it is damn well more original in it's storytelling then almost everything that comes from hollywood these days, also Cameron has proven time and again that he knows what the fuck he is doing.

Best goddamn movie i've seen since the LOTR trilogy.

Everybody should stop quoting south park now and GO SEE IT because IT IS AWESOME.

Cheers.

I very much second this opinion.

And yes, bartholen, there is at least one MAJOR twist that actually caught me by surprise (though I tried to keep my exposure to the story to a minimum). I won't spoil it, but the ending was quite different IMHO.

GO.....SEE.....THE.....MOVIE.....!

 

[Levitas1234]

I REALLY want to see this film!

It was beautifull

 

[BehattedWanderer]

Hints at spoilers, so be warned.

Just saw it, have to say--Michelle Rodriguez breaking the fourth wall was absolutely brilliant. It may not have been intentional, but to me, it was as if she the actor stepped out of the screen to say that, and I absolutely loved it.

Though, while I accept the romanticism that developed throughout the movie, that upon first meeting they immediately establish 'I love you' is pretty freaking weak. Watching someone almost get gnawed to death by what very distinctly looked like displacer beasts from any Forgotten Realms piece does not give them "a strong heart". Establishing it like that is kinda cheating for how the rest of the film went. Was it bad? Eh...not really. Just...really, really weak as an epitomizing moment of 'I'm falling in love with you.'

 

[Jake the Snake]

I just saw this movie today and i was blown away. Like bob said, the plot isnt anything new but the way its told makes the ride so enjoyable!!! The three d version of this movie will immerse on a brand new level you didn't even think was possible for a film to have. This movie IS EPIC folks. Everything that's CGI looks real and I honestly can not stop saying good things about this movie. You should see it, you should all see it, it should win All the academy awards it can this years because simply put ladies and gentlemen: This movie fucking rocks.

 

[Mischiviktus]

I really enjoyed Avatar. The graphics are absolutely gorgeous, it's sometimes predictable (aka, female...blue kitty person saves him, you know it's the love interest of the main character (SPOILER)), but it still is an awesome movie.

Going to see it again at an IMAX theater for best quality (in 3D, I hear it's astounding in 3D).

 

[geldonyetich]

Saw Avatar today. Damn good film. Maybe a bit derivative in that they used some fairly tried and true conversions throughout, but it's interesting how well they explored every angle.

 

[Chrissyluky]

i cant wait to play the jurrassic park theme over every scene.

 

[michael_ab]

i never caught the dances with wolves thing.. but has anyone noticed that this IS the plot to ferngully??

 

[projectCHIMP]

saw it a few days ago in 3D ... the 3D was awful and it was ass numbingly long, after every hour there was a cut to black where I actually hoped the film was finished. the script was painful, there was so many cliches that all they needed was for the old army dude to say "I'm to old for this shit" and they'd have the whole cliche collection.every person i went to see the film with said it looked amazing visually, but i just thought it looked like a cartoon.
ps. this film is not a rip off of dances with wolves, it's a rip off of the last samuri.
PPS. i didn't actually watch the review at the time of writing this, so ill just do that now

 

[projectCHIMP]

just watched the review, i wish people would stop butt kissing this film, they were looking for something called freaking unobtainium for gods sakes, maybe that should have given them a clue that they were never going to obtain it! it's rare to watch a film and be more interested in cleaning my 3D glasses, then look up at the screen only to say "why does a giant robot suit need a giant knife, why not just have more guns"

 

[Sovvolf]

just watched the review, i wish people would stop butt kissing this film, they were looking for something called freaking unobtainium for gods sakes, maybe that should have given them a clue that they were never going to obtain it! it's rare to watch a film and be more interested in cleaning my 3D glasses, then look up at the screen only to say "why does a giant robot suit need a giant knife, why not just have more guns"

So you wish people would stop liking this film because you don't like it?... people aren't butt kissing this film... they simply went to see it and enjoyed it. You went to see it and you didn't. That's your opinion and your entitled to it just like every one else is, just don't complain when some one disagrees with you.

 

[projectCHIMP]

what like your doing now, if you've seen it, watch it again and for 5 seconds stop looking at the "amazing visuals" and you'll notice it truly is a bad film on so many levels.

 

[Xelanath]

just watched the review, i wish people would stop butt kissing this film, they were looking for something called freaking unobtainium for gods sakes, maybe that should have given them a clue that they were never going to obtain it!

This was covered before:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unobtanium

In engineering, unobtainium is any extremely rare, costly, or physically impossible material needed to fulfill a given design for a given application.

 

[projectCHIMP]

oops didn't know it was a real thing, still how can you take a film seriously when they're trying to find unobtainium it still makes me laugh now

 

[Sovvolf]

what like your doing now, if you've seen it, watch it again and for 5 seconds stop looking at the "amazing visuals" and you'll notice it truly is a bad film on so many levels.

I don't think it's a bad film, that just my opinion. The films basic story isn't all that original but it's still brilliant. The film has good acting, a fun story and brilliant effects.

So what are you saying?, that the visuals of this movie are blinding me from seeing the actual story of this movie?. Well your wrong there, I know the story is at it's very basic is Pohcahontus on a different planet, however if I enjoyed the film then what does it matter. This story has been done over many of times as have many of stories. This shouldn't stop a film being good and the film should be judged on it's own merits.

 

[Sovvolf]

oops didn't know it was a real thing, still how can you take a film seriously when they're trying to find unobtainium it still makes me laugh now

How can you take any film seriously that has a robot sent back in time to kill the person who will lead a resistance?... a film that has a material called liquid polyalloy of which the main villain is made of which causes him to be able to shape his body into all manner of sharp objects along with regenerating him self?. That's basically Terminator 2, to which I add is a good movie.

 

[projectCHIMP]

i didn't say it had a bad story, although it does, I'm saying it's a bad film period. but i know I'll never get you to see that, and indeed anyone it would seem. we're just two guys with two different opinions i guess.

 

[projectCHIMP]

i would rather gauge my own eyes out than watch the hell that is the terminator franchise again, i curse the day when someone i know said "watch this it's good"

 

[Sovvolf]

i didn't say it had a bad story, although it does, I'm saying it's a bad film period. but i know I'll never get you to see that, and indeed anyone it would seem. we're just two guys with two different opinions i guess.

No you wont, nor will I get you to see that this movie is a good movie. We some times have to accept the fact that not every one has the same opinion or see's things the same as you or I do. There is possibly quite a few people out there that like you, hated the film while on the other hand there's probably a good amount of people out there who liked the film.

i would rather gauge my own eyes out than watch the hell that is the terminator franchise again, i curse the day when someone i know said "watch this it's good"

Okay I guess you don't like the Terminator series either but my point was that many movies use silly plot devices and can still be good. To be honest the Unobtainium plot device isn't all that silly. The material exists we know that but on earth it's extremely rare, on Pandora it isn't all that rare but is found in areas guarded by the natives. This material is (because of it's rarity) worth a lot of money and the company in the movie wants to mine it. Because of frequent attacks from the natives the company hires Mercenaries to get rid of the natives so that they can mine this material.