Let me preface this with, I agree more than whole heartily with everything you are saying, but that statement there is false. Not to say male is the default plan, because its not, but female isn't either. Neutrality of gender in the extreme early stages of life is just how it is. If it weren't gender neutral men wouldn't have nipples and women wouldn't have clitorises (Clitori?). The fact is simple, there is no default gender, despite a push or pull from many communities to say there is.00m said:
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...April O'Neil played by Megan Fox?
I-what in the-but how-didn't her and Michael Bay have a spat or...WHAT?
No amount of NO is large enough.
I-what in the-but how-didn't her and Michael Bay have a spat or...WHAT?
No amount of NO is large enough.
I was actually pleasantly surprised by this. It might not be groundbreaking, but it's still way smarter and better written than the Twilight movies it follows.
Of course, my reading may be supported or contradicted by further stories.
I think this was intended as a metaphor of the conservative view of gender roles, which defines men by their actions but women by their biology.Gorfias said:
In the end, the girl does get to choose, but (predictably) goes with neither good nor evil. This way she not only frees herself from gender stereotypes, but also from outdated black and white morality. To put it bluntly, it's a power fantasy for rebellious girls from conservative backgrounds.
I'm weirdly disappointed? I don't know before True Blood went to shit (and the books went so far off the deep end they went through the fucking planet) I enjoyed the hell out of the southern gothic supernatural stuff. I want something good to take Twilight's place.
A friend of mine told me that in the book, the inability to choose (Light or Dark) is a curse placed on her family. Or something like that. Which begs the question - why the fuck didn't they just explain it as that?
Cause Twilight and the movies it spawned and most of the books that it "inspired" are focused on females being victims. They appeal to co-dependent and/or submissive women who want to think they're really special but they don't want to take responsibility for their lives. Explaining that there's a curse instead of the more simple "Women have no control and are victims of circumstance" would undermine what they're trying to emulate.Sheo_Dagana said:
Geez, next thing you know some porn star is gonna start calling herself April O'Neal in some shallow attempt to appeal to nerd culture toTheNaut131 said:
I was dragged to this by the girlfriend, although I still don't know why, since she couldn't even get past the first 12 pages of the book.
Sadly, it actually had some good ideas. Usually when you have the "ostracized adolescent with superpowers" story, it's from that character's perspective. Doing it from the love interest's perspective was an interesting choice. Unfortunately, too much of the plot involves things he couldn't possibly know while they were happening, so that device was kind of pointless. (Also, I'm sick of voiceover narrations. They're just lazy. Show, don't tell!)
And the "men choose, women are" plot rubbed me the wrong way--until I realized the whole thing was basically a metaphor for how second-wave feminism largely failed to penetrate parts of the Deep South. Again, cool idea, but they undercut the whole message at the end:
In the 80s there were a whole bunch of epic fantasy novels that were based on the author's D&D game. Now we're seeing all these urban fantasy/paranormal books written by people who played a lot of World of Darkness RPGs in the 1990s. Only, this film feels the need to have two secret conspiracies at war, but not explain what the hell the difference between the two is. If we don't know the stakes, why should we care?
Sadly, it actually had some good ideas. Usually when you have the "ostracized adolescent with superpowers" story, it's from that character's perspective. Doing it from the love interest's perspective was an interesting choice. Unfortunately, too much of the plot involves things he couldn't possibly know while they were happening, so that device was kind of pointless. (Also, I'm sick of voiceover narrations. They're just lazy. Show, don't tell!)
And the "men choose, women are" plot rubbed me the wrong way--until I realized the whole thing was basically a metaphor for how second-wave feminism largely failed to penetrate parts of the Deep South. Again, cool idea, but they undercut the whole message at the end:
Lena isn't forced to choose Light or Dark in the end, but is the first female Caster to have free will like a male Caster. Except that she only gains that agency through a man's self-sacrifice on her behalf.
In the 80s there were a whole bunch of epic fantasy novels that were based on the author's D&D game. Now we're seeing all these urban fantasy/paranormal books written by people who played a lot of World of Darkness RPGs in the 1990s. Only, this film feels the need to have two secret conspiracies at war, but not explain what the hell the difference between the two is. If we don't know the stakes, why should we care?
Uh-oh! MovieBob said something about a Sony product that wasn't completely positive, time to queue-up the "Figures, he always was a Nintendo fanboy" comments. Because Heaven forbid that we should be getting bored of a design that's nearly 2 decades old.
Am I the only Christian conservitive that is confused by this recent trend in fiction? I thought this line of thought had fallen out of the mainstream and was relegated to the minority.
Second why is Hollywood turning this stuff out shouldn't they be opposed to this stuff on principle?
Second why is Hollywood turning this stuff out shouldn't they be opposed to this stuff on principle?
The Megan Fox rumor is just another damn good reason for us to all go about our lives as if the Turtles movie is just some crazy nightmare we had and not a real thing.
Megan Fox as April O' Neil...well at least we know she'll be arousingly kidnapped and whatnot but that a good April does not make (in this day and age anyway).
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I have no interest in this movie and am glad to see I have no reason to check it out.
Nah, LaBouf is pegged as Donatello. Or rather he would be: I think the personality would sync up in Bay's brain.Kitsune Hunter said:
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I have no interest in this movie and am glad to see I have no reason to check it out.
Excellent analysis. Thanks. This fits given who the story develops. But frighteningly still:plugav said:
And Twilight itself. Movie Bob was always slamming that series (among other detractors). Bella is some kind of fantasy character, but what kind? Kind of an empty, malleable vessel willing to die in child birth, etc.tangoprime said:
The sleeper has awakened!!!
but on topic, what really turned me off is the whole pure evil/pure good thing the witches has going on, it is really lazy to have bad guy who are evil just because they are. it might do something interesting with it but it would seem it doesnt.
but on topic, what really turned me off is the whole pure evil/pure good thing the witches has going on, it is really lazy to have bad guy who are evil just because they are. it might do something interesting with it but it would seem it doesnt.
*just watched the finale of My Little Pony: Friendship Is Magic where that also happened to Twilight Sparkle*00m said:
Uh oh.
Definitely good shows, there. I guess because when Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles was popular I was at a age where my life was engrossed in all thing turtles (as were my friends from that generation), so coming across folks who don't recognize it seems unfathomable.Gizmo1990 said:
Interesting side note though: I have a friend who is about your age who grew up in Singapore, and somehow, she ended up growing up watching the same cartoons as I did growing up, at around the same age due to the broadcasting/syndication schedule over there. It was surreal having a nostalgic conversation with someone who wasn't even born while I was enjoying the topic of conversation.
I kinda figured it wouldn't be very good. Not just because of the obvious Twilight overtones, but because as a rule of thumb any movie they set in the painfully stereotypical is usually quite groan worthy; especially since that's the area of the country I call home. (hint: most of us sound and act nothing like that) Dear god and those outfits, when is this movie set the f'ing 50's? Nobody, and I mean nobody, dresses like that down here anymore except the very old people who were alive during WWII. The clothes those girls were wearing at school? You'll maybe see some people dress like that on Easter Sunday or for a wedding.
Use that "gothic south" look all you want Hollywood, I actually rather like it, but for the love of his noodly appendage develop a view of the south that isn't poorly impersonated accents, ultra religiousness, or cousin fucking swamp dwellers.
Use that "gothic south" look all you want Hollywood, I actually rather like it, but for the love of his noodly appendage develop a view of the south that isn't poorly impersonated accents, ultra religiousness, or cousin fucking swamp dwellers.