Aiddon said:
meh, still not interested. Marvel's films have been painfully lackluster ever since Iron Man 2 was revealed to be a directionless bore due to Marvel being far too much in love with the Avengers.
And no Bob, the Avengers is not working. Hate to break it to ya, but not explaining something in a movie with the hand-waving of "oh, it was explained in ANOTHER movie!" is unacceptable. Films will never be comics and your love of comics refuses to admit that. Here's an analogy: this is like if they had a vitally important scene for a comic mini-series explained in a tie-in issue without TELLING YOU.
But, in the movies, this is more prequel/sequel then "Massive crossover." In the beginning of The Two Towers, did they sit down and explain everything from the first movie, or did they just kind of expect you to remember it (they expected you to remember it). Yeah, a couple of things were re-explained, or explained better, but for the most part, the simple things, even if they were of moderate importance, were not re-explained.
The same can be said about any prequel/sequel franchise in movies; Star Wars does not re-explain the concept of the force in every single movie. They explain it one time in episode 4, and then expand upon that info in episodes 5 and 6, without ever really repeating what they've said before. Basically, they would explain points A, B, and C about, say, the force, in episode 4, then, in episode 5, they explained points D, E, and F without reviewing the old points, because
they expected you to have both seen and to have remembered the last movie. More than that, when we get to the prequels, sucky as they may be, they give a tiny recap of certain points about the force even though it's been nearly 30 years since the original movie came out, and then just move on with extrapolations about the Force that we haven't heard before. Again, they expect you to know that stuff already. And for all the things that people complain about concerning the prequels, the fact that they didn't do a proper recap is not one of them (no, they just complain about other things, like making the force more along the lines of science instead of purely mystical).
Now, the Marvel movies may be a massive crossover, but they are also in a timeline of sequels and prequels; Captain America, then Iron Man, then Iron Man 2, then Thor, and somewhere in there is Hulk. Like most prequel/sequel things, they knd of expect you to know the back story already; don't go to see the sequel if you haven't seen what comes before, and vice-versa, because people who start halfway through will always be missing stuff, and trying to cater to those people is the mistake that the author Terry Goodkind made in
The Sword of Truth series. These are my favorite books, but they spend way too much time recapping the events of the last books for newcomers, who should have really just gone and read the damn books.
Note: I think Hulk is after Thor, just because Tony Stark was directly involved with the Avengers at that point, and in Iron Man 2 he wasn't, so it probably was not between Iron man and Iron Man 2, which is the only other possible time it could be, really, unless it and Thor were at the same time. That is a place they dropped the ball; they didn't clearly define when the Hulk movie took place.
Anyway, I know that I repeat myself like 27 times, and for that, I apologize. I'm having a bit of trouble slimming this down, as I'm currently running on no sleep for around 31 hours, which isn't that bad, but it makes it a tad hard to think straight.
Also, if I was rude, I apologize, as that was not my intent.