Escape to the Movies: Centurion
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12 pages in and people still are parroting each other. Seriously guys, I think Bob fucking gets it by now. All you're succeeding in doing is repeating what other people have already said (and theirs was probably better written). So shut your hole and talk about this week's video (sans heavy-sigh-address-the-masses part at the beginning)
Oh yes, thats the right attitude right there.aeziir said:Wait wait... let me explain... what I meant to say was: Get over it.adamtm said:I am hereby obliged to inform you that the "if you don't like it dont X" is the worst "argument from -fuck you-" ever devised, just after "if you don't have any thing nice to say, dont say anything"aeziir said:.... if you don't like it, don't watch it
PS: If you don't like my post, don't read it. Just don't. I warn you, responding to my post in any negative manner will not be tolerated!
GET OVER IT
I enjoyed Moviebob for a long time, well at least up until recently where he went a bit coocoo on a certain movie.
Apparently this happens to all movie critics at some point on the internet:
Confused Matthew (2001: A Space Odyssey), JoshuaTheAnarchist (Bladerunner), etc.
So instead of pointing out those flaws, shortcomings, i will just stop watching.
INGENIOUS!
Its like throwing myself arms-open into ignorances embrace.
Instead of at least trying to fix the problem through conversation, i just "vote with my click" and moviebob will not be any wiser.
You see, theres people here that actually care about Moviebob and his show, and they want his show to be as enjoyable as possible. So trying to explain (or in your interpretation "whine") their position to movie bob is actually a CONSTRUCTIVE effort to improve his show.
Of course i will let it go at some point, theres no point in continuing to talk to a wall.
But please, dont judge me for trying.
The general gist I got was that Pirahna is a bad movie in the same way that people say Expendables is a bad movie. The difference being that Pirahna has tons of blood, and all the archetypes of monster movies like hot girls getting naked then dying in large, impressive and interesting ways. Whereas Expendables didn't have any interesting deaths, or even any blood, which is a pretty big failure to follow in the B-movie archetype of hero slaughtering a whole army of badguys.
Thus, Pirahna, good bad movie, Expendables bad bad movie. They're both bad and stupid, but one in a way that it becomes good and the other was just a let down.
And Centurion looks good and the resume of the guy doing it is almost enough to tempt me towards putting it on the list as a definate DVD buy at least.
Thus, Pirahna, good bad movie, Expendables bad bad movie. They're both bad and stupid, but one in a way that it becomes good and the other was just a let down.
And Centurion looks good and the resume of the guy doing it is almost enough to tempt me towards putting it on the list as a definate DVD buy at least.
And going "boo-hoo you hurt my feelings" is really going to improve him?adamtm said:
Most of the people that were insulted wanted to feel insulted.
As they say in Spanish: "Aji pica por que aji comes" which basically means that he described a particular type of person and if you got insulted is because you identify with. So you're either an obedient sheep or you're an unselfconscious bicep fetishist. Simply put: he was annoyed that an unoriginal action flick and an uninspiring chick flick did better than an original film (whether you liked it or not).
P.S. Saying CONSTRUCTIVE in this type of discussion is laughable. "I don't like what you said" is not constructive. He has always railed against mindless sheep ever since he first started his game overthinker show.
P.S.S. It's HIS OPINION. I don't think I need to elaborate further on this point.
Again I will say get over it.
I'm not how much one post is going to affect anything, with one lousy comment about the expendables nudging nearly 1000 replies from this week and last.
But, I'll have a go.
This is all 'IMO' btw, just as everything Bob said was, he wasn't sharing some new facts with you, but his opinions.
Ok, I'll accept he went a little far in his branding anyone who saw Expendables as an idiot, but do we want him and Yahtzee and the others to make sure they understate everything in future?
On top of that, I agree to an extent, it's the Expendables and MW2 and the like that sell millions despite not really adding anything to a seemingly infinite list of very similar titles. On top of that, it just wasn't very good. I'm sure if, like the A Team, the Expendables had been 90 minutes of fun over the top action, Bob would have reviewed it as that, a big dumb FUN action movie, as opposed to a big dumb dull action movie.
All the time we're queueing up to give Hollywood our cash for bad movies, we're being idiots, and asking for more bad movies, and I would have thought that escapists, in general, would have gone (just in terms of trailers) for the movie that looks like every video game movie should have, over 'Rambo & friends hit stuff'. In short, you know how we all ridicule teenage girls for buying Justin Bieber stuff? That's the Expendables, a bag of shite being sold on an image.
So I'll turn to Piranha 3D, and suggest the reason why he liked this over Expendables, and I think it's the reason he liked the A Team. The movie KNOWS what genre it is, it knows it's target audience, and it embraces that. He's not saying tits and buckets of blood make a great movie, Schindler's List would have only been slightly improved with those additions, tho I could have understood the review quote 'bring a box of tissues' at least.
He's saying tits and blood and over the top death scene make a cheesy monster B movie great.
No-one is going into Piranha 3D expecting a spiritual journey and deep romantic subplot.
sheesh, I've put far too much effort into a post nearing number 400 in the thread that's probably only going to be read by the 2 or 3 people who post after me, until a new page starts. but, rant over til next week, and his next review, and I bet a dime to a dozen that there's at least 3 expendables references in the first 10 posts on the thread.
But, I'll have a go.
This is all 'IMO' btw, just as everything Bob said was, he wasn't sharing some new facts with you, but his opinions.
Ok, I'll accept he went a little far in his branding anyone who saw Expendables as an idiot, but do we want him and Yahtzee and the others to make sure they understate everything in future?
On top of that, I agree to an extent, it's the Expendables and MW2 and the like that sell millions despite not really adding anything to a seemingly infinite list of very similar titles. On top of that, it just wasn't very good. I'm sure if, like the A Team, the Expendables had been 90 minutes of fun over the top action, Bob would have reviewed it as that, a big dumb FUN action movie, as opposed to a big dumb dull action movie.
All the time we're queueing up to give Hollywood our cash for bad movies, we're being idiots, and asking for more bad movies, and I would have thought that escapists, in general, would have gone (just in terms of trailers) for the movie that looks like every video game movie should have, over 'Rambo & friends hit stuff'. In short, you know how we all ridicule teenage girls for buying Justin Bieber stuff? That's the Expendables, a bag of shite being sold on an image.
So I'll turn to Piranha 3D, and suggest the reason why he liked this over Expendables, and I think it's the reason he liked the A Team. The movie KNOWS what genre it is, it knows it's target audience, and it embraces that. He's not saying tits and buckets of blood make a great movie, Schindler's List would have only been slightly improved with those additions, tho I could have understood the review quote 'bring a box of tissues' at least.
He's saying tits and blood and over the top death scene make a cheesy monster B movie great.
No-one is going into Piranha 3D expecting a spiritual journey and deep romantic subplot.
sheesh, I've put far too much effort into a post nearing number 400 in the thread that's probably only going to be read by the 2 or 3 people who post after me, until a new page starts. but, rant over til next week, and his next review, and I bet a dime to a dozen that there's at least 3 expendables references in the first 10 posts on the thread.
Oh lord, if you get this pained over being called sheep for liking something the poster hated, stay clear of ZP and stuff like Angry video game nerd. Will blow your minds.
His point, Expendables was crap (it was) it relayed too much on "LOOK AT OUR CAST LIST!!!" and ignored everything else including fun to just cost in on its own sense of self worth, Pharana 3D knew full well what it was and decided to do it well (I personally didn't like it, but I saw in it enough to keep people into the Bmovie stuff a fun based hard).
And Centurion...ok he kinda skipped on that, Ill admit as a Review of that film it was kinda awful, but he seems to have trolled enough of you so I'll let it slide.
Oh and one thing, In defence of being called sheep, all repeating the same one or two lines from page one over and over again is REALLY helping the cause.
His point, Expendables was crap (it was) it relayed too much on "LOOK AT OUR CAST LIST!!!" and ignored everything else including fun to just cost in on its own sense of self worth, Pharana 3D knew full well what it was and decided to do it well (I personally didn't like it, but I saw in it enough to keep people into the Bmovie stuff a fun based hard).
And Centurion...ok he kinda skipped on that, Ill admit as a Review of that film it was kinda awful, but he seems to have trolled enough of you so I'll let it slide.
Oh and one thing, In defence of being called sheep, all repeating the same one or two lines from page one over and over again is REALLY helping the cause.
I think that he's implying that it's very self-aware of it's status as a bad movie, so it goes out of it's way to show you T&A and gore in an attempt that almost feels like parody. And it's got Christoper Lloyd.Hubilub said:
Oh, excuse me, i forgot to say. I'm not in the least offended by what he said (the sheep part), i just criticize his reviewing technique, i.e. rant vs actually reviewing the movie.aeziir said:
Take SFdebris for example, i love Voyager to death, he constantly riffs on it, i dont see a problem there. Why? Because he actually gives me a lot of insightful reasons as to why this or that episode was insanely stupid. And most of the time i agree.
And i STILL like episodes like "Threshold" even with Janeway turning into a lizard and fucking Tom Perris.
However, Bob only riffed on us being sheep and not on the actual movie.
Simply put: He flipped the fuck out over some movie without any reason. At least he didnt give any, except for the fact that it did better than SPVSTW (which somehow is a bad thing nowadays *shrug*)
I dont think you understand where most people are coming from on this discussion.
I know it was error on my part, is why someone else help me with re-post. Thank you for the polite conversation. I find much harder to read and asses the tone, than to hear. Back home referring to child and adult name is big no, so that was how I thinks. Even simile, had to look that one up. Thank you for explaining, more of the difficult language to me. You explain better than my ESL teacher. I didn't got anyone to correct me, so you can look at how bad I am, hope you understand me. Thank you, for a time to explain.Starke said:Then let's start over. There's nothing in the originating post that can be categorized as childish or passive aggressive. Passive Aggressive refers to a specific kind of psychiatric disorder that is inconsistent with anything in the post. Secondly, as English is my first language, I can assure you with relative certainty that there was nothing childish about my comments. They may have been harsh, but not childish. Calling someone "childish" is not, in turn a "childish insult", it is, in this case, a simile, referring to Bob's tantrum masquerading as a review. I knew what I wrote, and I selected the structure carefully to avoid overt offense, that doesn't mean I wasn't (justifiably) irked by the comment I was responding to.TheAngryMonkey said:Thank you for the spelling correction. What I was saying is that with all your calm and collected analysis, you throw in your own aggressive childish comments. Which you can honestly agree, takes away from your argument. And since people were up in arms about what Bob said, including insults in your counter points was interesting. That was the intent of my comment to you. I don't disagree with your points, I agree with most of them. That is why I specifically commented on the type of language, you used. It seems trivial now, but sometimes your knee just jerks.Starke said:
I had this one corrected by my English Speaking co-worker, so I hope its better. My roommate fixed and added stuff to the first one. Did not understand how bitchy the last three lines were, that was him.
Still learning your language, and having to rely on others.
I await your spelling, and grammatical corrections. As is said, if your not corrected, you will just keep doing things wrong.
As for advice, never let your roommate speak for you again, for any reason. It's not bitchy, but it is condescending and devalues anything you may have to say later.
As for additional advice, and this is critical, your understanding (if not your usage) of the English language, and idioms is good, and good enough to assess the intended tone, the implication that this was a mistake however, was, itself, an error on your part.
Finally, it is grammatically incorrect to begin a sentence with "and". It is a rule you will see violated frequently (especially among native speakers). Among non-native speakers (and even some native speakers) it's usage can become highly confused when it is used to initiate a sentence.
If the overall tone of this post appears somewhat hostile to you, blame your roommate.
Do people not get that Yahtzee and now the angry videogame nerd (seriously?) are caricatures?! not legitimate game reviewers. I and apparently a lot of people were under the impression that MovieBob was supposed to be a legitimate movie reviewer.
Ranting about not the film, but the people who saw it is not a review.
Ranting about not the film, but the people who saw it is not a review.
I never tried to defend the expendables or say that piranha was a bad movie, I only explained why we were dissapointed/disgusted with Bob, and only Bob. Truth be told, i didn't like either movies (personal opinion), try reading what I said in my post before you go into obsolete arguments.Shale_Dirk said:
He didn't bash it just because it was an action flick. One of his biggest complaints was the lack of blood. That was after the insult though so I am not sure how many people got that far. Another was the cameos to make the trailers look good. Piranha did have over the top gore. That is what it needed to be a good movie.chaos order said:
