Wow. You just save me from wasting 2 hours at the theater on this piece of crap. My bother is probably gonna be an idiot and still watch this. Nice review as always,Bob.
My head hurts.Squigie said:In The Happening we are given a science teacher who states, emphatically, several times, that there are many things that we will never understand, who also provides a perfectly reasonable (in the context of the movie (it's still really dumb)) and complete explanation for the titular event (sans all of the technical details that would be far too boring to sit through).008Zulu said:Physics and logic dictaes that toast will always land butter side down, so if I drop a piece and it lands butter side up, I am the Devil?
My head hurts, is this the typical logic in a Shamylilian movie? Are his movies Black Holes that cause logic-defying headaches by proxie? Have I been caught in the mindbending trap of the a terrible movie maker?
He tells us that there are things that can't be explained, including the "happening" itself, and then explains the whole damn thing. [Appropriate response] [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RA06Z5e1ZFc&NR=1]
Second paragraph I can understand the first sentence though...that is still blatantly stupid. Not to mention where the heck did he get the toast to begin with? Oh he made it for breakfast, so why didn't he eat it before coming to work? Lets face it this is a stupid movie that is only good for cheap laughs, fail Mr. M. Night.raven47172 said:The toast scene is used in the context to show that when the devil is near everything is backwards hence toast lands jelly side down.
Second, the devil was not involved in the story of Adam and Eve that was just a snake. It was turned into the devil to try to retcon him into the old testament. Satan is in the Book of Job but he is not the master of evil he is more of a prosecutor trying to prove a case not trying to corrupt Job.
ROFL dude completely relevant and hilarious!Irridium said:I feel this is relevant:
LOL okay you win the cookie!Rednog said:I see you're toast and raise you some ham!Irridium said:I feel this is relevant:
How do you know God is getting off on what he does?Sylocat said:Ah, so he's not a tyrant, he's just a sadist.Lukyo said:-Sigh- The argument that God is a tyrant is tiresome an ridiculous. Think about it for a minute. If God is a tyrant that means He raise himself over people which implies that He was once equal to people. What sense does that make? God does what ever He wants when ever He wants to and doesn't wait for anyone's opinion when it comes to rule everything that exists, especially since nothing would exist without Him.Sylocat said:I'm glad someone pointed out that Satan is actually not the Ultimate Source Of All Evil in the Bible.
I'm a little disappointed that no one's pointed out that God's "omnipotence" was largely a RetCon on the part of the New Testament authors. If you assume that Yahweh is LESS powerful than most of the other Elohim (and you keep track of when, in the original book, he was referred to as "Yahweh" and when he was referred to as "Elohim," which is the plural for "god"), then He comes out of the Torah looking resourceful and well-intentioned, and the narrative makes sense. If you assume He's omnipotent, then you run into theodicy problems from day one, and he looks like a petty, hypocritical tyrant.
Hey, maybe Yahtzee's idea that God is a kid playing a giant version of The Sims and torturing us for shits and giggles (like most people do when they play The Sims) is true. That would make about as much sense as your version.
So tyrants don't rise to power that way?ProjectTrinity said:From Dictionary.com. =DLukyo said:-Sigh- The argument that God is a tyrant is tiresome an ridiculous. Think about it for a minute. If God is a tyrant that means He raise himself over people which implies that He was once equal to people. What sense does that make? God does what ever He wants when ever He wants to and doesn't wait for anyone's opinion when it comes to rule everything that exists, especially since nothing would exist without Him.Sylocat said:I'm glad someone pointed out that Satan is actually not the Ultimate Source Of All Evil in the Bible.
I'm a little disappointed that no one's pointed out that God's "omnipotence" was largely a RetCon on the part of the New Testament authors. If you assume that Yahweh is LESS powerful than most of the other Elohim (and you keep track of when, in the original book, he was referred to as "Yahweh" and when he was referred to as "Elohim," which is the plural for "god"), then He comes out of the Torah looking resourceful and well-intentioned, and the narrative makes sense. If you assume He's omnipotent, then you run into theodicy problems from day one, and he looks like a petty, hypocritical tyrant.
In this review however Bob did a good job explaining who the devil really is, while the movie is just another example of humans giving the Devil too much credit, in a very stupid and poorly made presentation of course.
1.
a sovereign or other ruler who uses power oppressively or unjustly.
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any person in a position of authority who exercises power oppressively or despotically.
3.
a tyrannical or compulsory influence.
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an absolute ruler, esp. one in ancient Greece or Sicily.
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I'd love to see where your(s) argument goes, since I'm a curious soul, but, I'm not seeing your definition of tyrant anywhere on this. And even if your definition was true, it could be said that his is just as true.
Read my post. It's the most logical explanation.Lukyo said:How do you know God is getting off on what he does?Sylocat said:Ah, so he's not a tyrant, he's just a sadist.Lukyo said:-Sigh- The argument that God is a tyrant is tiresome an ridiculous. Think about it for a minute. If God is a tyrant that means He raise himself over people which implies that He was once equal to people. What sense does that make? God does what ever He wants when ever He wants to and doesn't wait for anyone's opinion when it comes to rule everything that exists, especially since nothing would exist without Him.Sylocat said:I'm glad someone pointed out that Satan is actually not the Ultimate Source Of All Evil in the Bible.
I'm a little disappointed that no one's pointed out that God's "omnipotence" was largely a RetCon on the part of the New Testament authors. If you assume that Yahweh is LESS powerful than most of the other Elohim (and you keep track of when, in the original book, he was referred to as "Yahweh" and when he was referred to as "Elohim," which is the plural for "god"), then He comes out of the Torah looking resourceful and well-intentioned, and the narrative makes sense. If you assume He's omnipotent, then you run into theodicy problems from day one, and he looks like a petty, hypocritical tyrant.
Hey, maybe Yahtzee's idea that God is a kid playing a giant version of The Sims and torturing us for shits and giggles (like most people do when they play The Sims) is true. That would make about as much sense as your version.
Except this time, they are locked in a Broom Cupboard!MatParker116 said:This shit got a fucking sequel I'm not kidding