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Illusive DiZ

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Wow. You just save me from wasting 2 hours at the theater on this piece of crap. My bother is probably gonna be an idiot and still watch this. Nice review as always,Bob.
 

008Zulu_v1legacy

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Squigie said:
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Physics and logic dictaes that toast will always land butter side down, so if I drop a piece and it lands butter side up, I am the Devil?

My head hurts, is this the typical logic in a Shamylilian movie? Are his movies Black Holes that cause logic-defying headaches by proxie? Have I been caught in the mindbending trap of the a terrible movie maker?
In The Happening we are given a science teacher who states, emphatically, several times, that there are many things that we will never understand, who also provides a perfectly reasonable (in the context of the movie (it's still really dumb)) and complete explanation for the titular event (sans all of the technical details that would be far too boring to sit through).

He tells us that there are things that can't be explained, including the "happening" itself, and then explains the whole damn thing. [Appropriate response] [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RA06Z5e1ZFc&NR=1]
My head hurts.
 

Mosstromo

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I was unnerved by this film poster not because of it subject nor as a pre-emptive dislike because it was by M. Night, but because I fear that this man (for whom I still hold some sympathy) would continue his downfall unobstructed. I suffer because I wish he could pick himself up somewhere along the bouncing and rolling down that jagged self-destruction slope, and know he will with most probability not.
In this case it is just by proximity he is further provided of momentum on that already ferocious avalanche (now aided by a lift to make it faster), but still "The Name", "The Name"!!! When Daniel Day Lewis in "The Crucible" says at one moment: "At least leave me my name!!!!" it demonstrates that this is also important. Credibility is almost always a conjoined twin of a name.

I am happy that I won't have to pay to see this, but sad for my fears were not unfounded as I so wished.
Thanks Mr Movie Bob, for the warning and for the walrus.
 

PrinceofPersia

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The toast scene is used in the context to show that when the devil is near everything is backwards hence toast lands jelly side down.

Second, the devil was not involved in the story of Adam and Eve that was just a snake. It was turned into the devil to try to retcon him into the old testament. Satan is in the Book of Job but he is not the master of evil he is more of a prosecutor trying to prove a case not trying to corrupt Job.
Second paragraph I can understand the first sentence though...that is still blatantly stupid. Not to mention where the heck did he get the toast to begin with? Oh he made it for breakfast, so why didn't he eat it before coming to work? Lets face it this is a stupid movie that is only good for cheap laughs, fail Mr. M. Night.
 

RedheadedKate

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I shared this video with my best friend, who saw it. He actually kind of enjoyed it BECAUSE it was so bad. The attitude of "I can't believe how stupid this is! This is the worst horror movie I've ever seen! HA HA HA HA TOAST!"
 

Tarrker

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I think it's important to mention that our modern idea of what the devil is like largely comes from old world Europeans trying to demonize local religion. My ancestors, the celts, were mostly druidic in nature and they had what they called the great horned god who looks JUST like what we see as the devil. Their religious symbol was (much like the cross to christians) a five-pointed star with a circle around it. The star represents the five points of nature (earth, air, fire, water and life) and the circle represents the world. When the Roman empire was still around these people were regularly crucified as heathens and then later burned as witches by the europeans themselves.I don't know that many scholars or historians would back me up on this, but, I personally believe that this is why our modern perception of the devil vastly differs from the biblical depiction.
 

Ghengis John

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Poor M Night. Looking at his earlier work like the sixth sense, signs or unbreakable I feel sorry for the guy. He seems like a pretty cool dude that's been put in a tough spot by starting out on an incredibly high note and then expected to produce genius every time. It's interesting to note that his situation is a lot like Rod Sterlings and reading Sterling's biography I can imagine Sham feels a lot of the same frustrations.

That said this sounds like a royal piece of crap and worse than anything he's managed to create on his own. Poor guy. And what's worse, even though someone else wrote this drek and someone else directed it, he'll catch all the credit. He should just stop for a while. Or maybe work on his own autobiography before he's doing orange juice commercials or hosting the relaunch of night gallery.
 

tetron

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xD oh wow that toast part got me good. I knew this movie was going to be horrible. Glad to know I'm not missing anything.
 

CleverNickname

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A-hahahaha, but seriously, Bob made the toast thing up, right? He must have. I'm sure of it. Nothing and nobody would actually come up with something like that.

Well played, Bob.




:-s
 

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Sylocat said:
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I'm glad someone pointed out that Satan is actually not the Ultimate Source Of All Evil in the Bible.

I'm a little disappointed that no one's pointed out that God's "omnipotence" was largely a RetCon on the part of the New Testament authors. If you assume that Yahweh is LESS powerful than most of the other Elohim (and you keep track of when, in the original book, he was referred to as "Yahweh" and when he was referred to as "Elohim," which is the plural for "god"), then He comes out of the Torah looking resourceful and well-intentioned, and the narrative makes sense. If you assume He's omnipotent, then you run into theodicy problems from day one, and he looks like a petty, hypocritical tyrant.
-Sigh- The argument that God is a tyrant is tiresome an ridiculous. Think about it for a minute. If God is a tyrant that means He raise himself over people which implies that He was once equal to people. What sense does that make? God does what ever He wants when ever He wants to and doesn't wait for anyone's opinion when it comes to rule everything that exists, especially since nothing would exist without Him.
Ah, so he's not a tyrant, he's just a sadist.

Hey, maybe Yahtzee's idea that God is a kid playing a giant version of The Sims and torturing us for shits and giggles (like most people do when they play The Sims) is true. That would make about as much sense as your version.
How do you know God is getting off on what he does?
 

Lukyo

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ProjectTrinity said:
Lukyo said:
Sylocat said:
I'm glad someone pointed out that Satan is actually not the Ultimate Source Of All Evil in the Bible.

I'm a little disappointed that no one's pointed out that God's "omnipotence" was largely a RetCon on the part of the New Testament authors. If you assume that Yahweh is LESS powerful than most of the other Elohim (and you keep track of when, in the original book, he was referred to as "Yahweh" and when he was referred to as "Elohim," which is the plural for "god"), then He comes out of the Torah looking resourceful and well-intentioned, and the narrative makes sense. If you assume He's omnipotent, then you run into theodicy problems from day one, and he looks like a petty, hypocritical tyrant.
-Sigh- The argument that God is a tyrant is tiresome an ridiculous. Think about it for a minute. If God is a tyrant that means He raise himself over people which implies that He was once equal to people. What sense does that make? God does what ever He wants when ever He wants to and doesn't wait for anyone's opinion when it comes to rule everything that exists, especially since nothing would exist without Him.

In this review however Bob did a good job explaining who the devil really is, while the movie is just another example of humans giving the Devil too much credit, in a very stupid and poorly made presentation of course.
From Dictionary.com. =D

1.
a sovereign or other ruler who uses power oppressively or unjustly.
2.
any person in a position of authority who exercises power oppressively or despotically.
3.
a tyrannical or compulsory influence.
4.
an absolute ruler, esp. one in ancient Greece or Sicily.

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I'd love to see where your(s) argument goes, since I'm a curious soul, but, I'm not seeing your definition of tyrant anywhere on this. And even if your definition was true, it could be said that his is just as true.
So tyrants don't rise to power that way?
 

Sylocat

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Lukyo said:
Sylocat said:
Lukyo said:
Sylocat said:
I'm glad someone pointed out that Satan is actually not the Ultimate Source Of All Evil in the Bible.

I'm a little disappointed that no one's pointed out that God's "omnipotence" was largely a RetCon on the part of the New Testament authors. If you assume that Yahweh is LESS powerful than most of the other Elohim (and you keep track of when, in the original book, he was referred to as "Yahweh" and when he was referred to as "Elohim," which is the plural for "god"), then He comes out of the Torah looking resourceful and well-intentioned, and the narrative makes sense. If you assume He's omnipotent, then you run into theodicy problems from day one, and he looks like a petty, hypocritical tyrant.
-Sigh- The argument that God is a tyrant is tiresome an ridiculous. Think about it for a minute. If God is a tyrant that means He raise himself over people which implies that He was once equal to people. What sense does that make? God does what ever He wants when ever He wants to and doesn't wait for anyone's opinion when it comes to rule everything that exists, especially since nothing would exist without Him.
Ah, so he's not a tyrant, he's just a sadist.

Hey, maybe Yahtzee's idea that God is a kid playing a giant version of The Sims and torturing us for shits and giggles (like most people do when they play The Sims) is true. That would make about as much sense as your version.
How do you know God is getting off on what he does?
Read my post. It's the most logical explanation.
 

spartan1077

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It was jelly side down not butter and I thought it was actually a good movie. Although I also thought the expendables was a good movie (looking at you movie Bob)... anyways it was jsut showing how luck turns bad when the Devil is around. Also the Devil murders the people because he makes more of a statement. Most of it was a metaphorical sense to it and the people who are saying how do they have toast on the elevator...they don't. The security people do. Good ending and hell it was 1 hour and 20 minutes so it didn't try to drag anything out anyways. Go see it
 

Gigano

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You'd think a prince of darkness could be doing something better with his time than being stuck in an elevator exerting some kind of influence on buttered toast... I guess god used up the genocide quota in the old testament or something.

Say what you want on christianity and its history, but these days it's always good for a few cheap laughs. Once it was an oppressive ideology, now it's more of a "faith +1" marketing scheme. Praise Pay Jesus!

Almost tempted to see this for the lulz, though then I'd have ethical concerns over just where my money ended up.
 

KO4U

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Have a sense of humor people. http://thecinemasnob.com/2010/09/18/devil-review.aspx
 

cheese_wizington

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So instead of reviewing one of the two good movies that came out LAST week, we get Devil? Why? Because it was easiest to review?
 

Numachuka

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MatParker116 said:
This shit got a fucking sequel I'm not kidding
Except this time, they are locked in a Broom Cupboard!

Well yaknow an evil one. That has a lock. That can't be opened by crowbars. Because its magic.