Escape to the Movies: District 9

[Lightbunny]

Why would we be more diplomatic? Humans do horrible things to each other based on racial and cultural divides. Aliens would be complete others and outsiders to any society and would very likely become feared and hated. When the movie was finished, I couldn't help but think that this is exactly or at least very close to how it would go down.

Also at first everyone was fairly diplomatic and they were trying to help the aliens, but the situation quickly deteriorated. Also with the alien kicking the guy, it probably felt threatened, afraid, and acted rashly. It was a little odd, but I wouldn't say it acted with no reason.

Im pretty sure the whole "We are not alone in the universe" thing would make us act at least a little more diplomatic or at least alot less like batman villains and still Twentey fucking years is long enough that we would find a better solution than "shoot them if they do anything and let some random gang chill out in our highly gaurded facility"

That's a very optimistic view of how this species would handle first contact with an alien one.

Also a bit naïve, I'm afraid. I'm relatively sure that most people on this planet, when presented with an alien species, would be compelled to find out whether they taste good or not.

 

[AxonZin]

Just saw District 9 today. Fucking loved it.

Bob's right. Go see this movie. Right now.

 

[CrafterMan]

I'm sorry, what?

.. Did he just say Bad Taste and Dead Alive were NOT bad movies?

Holy mother of god I lol'd.

I fucking loved Bad Taste!

But that's because I'm a New Zealander

-Joe

I am too that doesn't change the fact that it was hilariously bad

It was ment to be hilariously bad though, I mean come on, it was a shit production per se but the acting was hilarious, there is not a lot like it out there, Coromandel types in a nutshell though aye

-Joe

 

[Coldsnap]

Why would we be more diplomatic? Humans do horrible things to each other based on racial and cultural divides. Aliens would be complete others and outsiders to any society and would very likely become feared and hated. When the movie was finished, I couldn't help but think that this is exactly or at least very close to how it would go down.

Also at first everyone was fairly diplomatic and they were trying to help the aliens, but the situation quickly deteriorated. Also with the alien kicking the guy, it probably felt threatened, afraid, and acted rashly. It was a little odd, but I wouldn't say it acted with no reason.

Im pretty sure the whole "We are not alone in the universe" thing would make us act at least a little more diplomatic or at least alot less like batman villains and still Twentey fucking years is long enough that we would find a better solution than "shoot them if they do anything and let some random gang chill out in our highly gaurded facility"

That's a very optimistic view of how this species would handle first contact with an alien one.

Also a bit naïve, I'm afraid. I'm relatively sure that most people on this planet, when presented with an alien species, would be compelled to find out whether they taste good or not.

I don't know about that. The first reaction to an alien presence coming to earth would most likely be fear. I also want to add that I think that this movie is the most likely scenario given the conditions the aliens are in i.e. no apparent leadership and destitute state on both the ship and in District 9.

If the aliens had functioning leadership, a functioning area of their own, and were just on an equal footing instead of being kind of subservient to humans, then things would most likely be radically different.

 

[Lusulpher]

@ movieBob--- I hope you were being sarcastic about Peter Jackson's track record...

I hate each and everyone of those movies(the ones I saw, LOTR/King Kong). Guy's almost as bad as Micheal Bay. Bay overdoes explosions, Jackson overdoes dramatic scenes and dialougue and walking...he is the Master of Bore.

@ people on page 1--- Also, Spielberg has been selling out since E.T. yeah, I rewatched it...it was AWFUL. Encounters of the Third Kind still epic...half his movies are shit, the other half timeless...weird.

Munich and War of the Worlds, hardcore and brilliant. Indiana Jones ToCS...wow...and don't get me started on how crap "Transformers" HAS ALWAYS BEEN(1980 -> now).

*"Children of Men", is superb but it got the same rough editing as Munich. WotW could have done without the son surviving bs*

"Wrath of Kahn" >>> new "Star Trek" movie. NEVER liked "Star Trek"(alien chicks don't have Human vaginas and they are as racist, just like us). Babylon 5 ftw.

And yes I will go see "District 9", even though the Halo movie would make "G.I. Joe" look as comical as it is.

See some debate about how we would treat alien life. HAHAHAHAHA

If they are powerful, see example 'X-Files'.
If they are weak see example 'Continent of friggin' Africa or ghettos-Bronx'
If we gain more from them revealing themselves, see example 'Return of Jesus'
Enjoy your day.

 

[Mr. Doe]

A post that hated almost everything that I have ever nerdy thing Ive loved except Conan and Highlander (and talked about E.T., War of the worlds and a couple of other things Id rather forget/didnt bother seeing)

Ive just lost some faith in mankind.

P.S.your freinds with the Enter key arent you.

 

[Mr. Doe]

Why would we be more diplomatic? Humans do horrible things to each other based on racial and cultural divides. Aliens would be complete others and outsiders to any society and would very likely become feared and hated. When the movie was finished, I couldn't help but think that this is exactly or at least very close to how it would go down.

Also at first everyone was fairly diplomatic and they were trying to help the aliens, but the situation quickly deteriorated. Also with the alien kicking the guy, it probably felt threatened, afraid, and acted rashly. It was a little odd, but I wouldn't say it acted with no reason.

Im pretty sure the whole "We are not alone in the universe" thing would make us act at least a little more diplomatic or at least alot less like batman villains and still Twentey fucking years is long enough that we would find a better solution than "shoot them if they do anything and let some random gang chill out in our highly gaurded facility"

That's a very optimistic view of how this species would handle first contact with an alien one.

Also a bit naïve, I'm afraid. I'm relatively sure that most people on this planet, when presented with an alien species, would be compelled to find out whether they taste good or not.

I don't know about that. The first reaction to an alien presence coming to earth would most likely be fear. I also want to add that I think that this movie is the most likely scenario given the conditions the aliens are in i.e. no apparent leadership and destitute state on both the ship and in District 9.

If the aliens had functioning leadership, a functioning area of their own, and were just on an equal footing instead of being kind of subservient to humans, then things would most likely be radically different.

Well I have/had faith in Humanity (or at least Nerd scientists) that the first thing we would NOT do if the Alien laser gun didnt fire is say "Fuck you aliens, go live in a refugee camp!" or start slicing them up like Dr.Moreau on a bender (And in response to lightbunny's post OMNOMNOMNOMNOMNOMNOMNOMNOMNOMNOMNOMNOMNOMN)

 

[joe_dracos]

If I may begin my good chum a spirited discussion, I'll give you an ambush is not technically a combat zone. An ambush also known as a Kill Zone or Kill Box, is the area where an enemy element hopes to direct, channel and trap you OR where you hope to do the same to him.

I am aware of common military lingo. Use it as needed.

But merely the type of combat depicted is one of the truer depiction of modern military conflict.

Thats not military conflict. All I saw was a military unit fighting poorly armed civilians (paramilitary or not).

Executing military tactic of falling back when confronted with a strong enemy and calling in addition support as to apply overwhelming force on the target with AIR or ASS(Armor). And when you ignore these things and depict a military element as such incompetent amateur fuckheads as District 9 did your digging a DEEP hole to climb out of as far as story telling is concerned.

You are refering to combined arms warfare and manouver warfare. I am not really comparing it to anything except to the fact its not warfare. Its the suppression of civilians through military force (reguardless of who fires first). Not to mention that the invasion of Iraq is morally dubious at best (you can't claim your looking for WMD's and then when you don't find any say your deposing a dictator. If the US is concearned with the oppression of civilians it should look at its own policies first:The Patriot Act, Guantanamo bay Concentration camp. Colour these two things anyway you like, once a people allow their rights to be taken away in any situation, such as the right to Habeous Corpus in concearn to suspected terrorists, then they are no longer a free society) but I digress.

The idea of separating combatants into the categories of terrorists, freedom fighter, standing army are in all intents of purpose both pointless and moronic. There are simple people, some you can trust to get your back (sometimes not all the time) and others you have to watch out for as you may in fact have to kill them.

Unfortunately I think you missed the point of my comparrison. The comparison was not that of who you can trust but of the catigory of which each side fits. It is important to understand why an enemy will fight you and bracketing all those people who got killed in those scenes as terrorists is not only inaccurate, but wrong. The people who flew the jet liners into the world trade center are without a doubt terrorists. Those people in the scenes were freedom fighters (civilian combatants). If you understand their side, military force can become unneccessary (as long as both sides are willing to attempt a bypass).

If you take the time to watch the series through, you will come to understand this DOES NOT glorify Marines in this hero cast and villainous the Muslim world. It merely does it's best to depict what happened for this ONE platoon in the invasion of Iraq.

Unfortunately I can not agree with you. Especially since any media wishing to use the US military (historically or otherwise) may not portray them in a negative light. Unless it portrays the retaliation that the marines took upon the rest of the civilian populace in Iraq I don't think both sides are portrayed accurately.

 

[Artemis923]

Damn good movie, saw it today.

I wish it was longer though...they could've easily thrown in another hour.

 

[Dommyboy]

Saw District 9 today. Brilliant movie. The time just flew by as I watched it, and I felt sad when it ended as I wanted to view more of it. Unfortunately the end seems to be a bit loose ended and anti-climatic and there's the odd logic errors in it but apart from that, it's brilliant.

 

[DecKrash]

In regards to what was said about Spielberg, Lost World wasn't bad; just not as good as Jurassic Park; War of the Worlds was a good movie (screw anyone who says otherwise); He PRODUCED the first Transformers, if memory serves -which was not a bad movie, just hollow, and though I've never seen the most recent Indiana Jones, I did see the Temple of Doom, and I love it to this day. Spielberg has made some mediocre movies, but no really bad ones to my knowledge. In addition, Halo, for its simplicity as an FPS had a very interesting and multi-layered storyline, which also, in the hands of a good director and writer, could translate well into a movie. Spielberg, if he gets a whack at it, is the perfect director for it, because of his way with evoking a sense of wonder, and making very believable stories.

But I digress.

I saw District 9 the other day, and I have to agree with the reviewer. It is, by far, the best sci-fi summer blockbuster to date, even after having seen Star Trek. The only thing that kept me from singing its praises right and left was its heavy-handedness in the realm of race relations. It's understandable, because it was part of the plot, but sometimes the movie really did feel like it was beating you over the head with it. Still, it did not subtract from the experience, or keep me from thoroughly enjoying this deep, often disturbing, but highly intelligent and massively refreshing film. It was a wonderful break from all the thinly plotted brain candy this summer, and has done a great job of completing my summer movie experience this year.

 

[Jonny49]

Good review, but I have to disagree about what you said about the halo movie. I don't regard myself as a huge halo fan but if Peter Jackson thought a good halo movie was possible, who is to argue? You yourself said he's never made a bad movie. None the less, a good review.

 

[The Austin]

Bob gave a solid reveiw.

I saw this movie the day it came out, and now, its my favorite movie of all time.

SO SEEE IT!!!!!!
MAKE HIM ENOUGH MONEY TO DO A SEQUIL!!!!!!!

 

[DaSmart1]

At first, I thought MovieBob was over-exaggerating a bit. I saw the movie, and he really isn't exaggerating, it really is that good. Everything about it is well thought-out and brilliantly done.

 

[Drakmeire]

The movie was amazing and I'll probably get the DVD when it comes out. but my one gripe was the alien human hybrid aspect, it was well thought out but fuel shouldn't do that and he should have changed into a human/alien not a %100 alien. most likely there will be a district 10.

 

[jonnosferatu]

Excellent movie. My only objections:
1) Those bloody tracking face shots during "that bit near the middle." There are only two or three of them, but shots that make the characters look like they're just posing as a mysterious train transports them through the environment break up flow and suspension of disbelief almost as well as the lead suddenly saying "I hope nobody in the audience realizes what _I_ just realized!"

2) All the morons in the theater who kept shouting "OH!" in obnoxious frat boy jock voices whenever any alien technology was used against humans. It probably does represent their developing some attachment to the aliens and realizing the antagonism of the humans, but it's still ****ing annoying.

 

[hamster mk 4]

Just went to see it with the wife. We both enjoyed the plot however the shaky cam filming style made her ill, and lessened the experience for the both of us. If you can play a 3 hour marathon FPS session this movie will not effect you. If you or some one you are taking can not withstand such things you may want to reconsider. As I said the plot is excellent, it is just the camera work makes it inaccessible to parts of the population that have not been shooting Nazis for years.

 

[Ghonzor]

Great movie.

That's all there really is to it.

 

[Schlorgan]

Look, the thing about a Halo movie is... even if you made an absolute spot-on translation of the very best aspects of the game and it's universe, at BEST all you can hope to end up with is a so-so knockoff of Aliens and/or Starship Troopers.

This is the problem with almost every movie based on a game-franchise that's come to mainstream popularity in the post-Playstation era is that almost all of them are "playable versions" of various popular movies. "Resident Evil" is just interactive George Romero, so when you make a movie all your gonna get is a Romero ripoff. Even if you do a GOOD job.

You're probably right on that, Bob. But if anyone is going to make a GOOD Halo movie, wouldn't it be Producers Peter Jackson and Steven Spielberg (who is now on the project), and Director Neill Blomkamp? Those producers are two people who have made some of the biggest movies in the movie industry. Every movie in those genres afterwards are compared to theirs; I have some examples: ("Narnia" was compared to "Lord of the Rings," "The Mummy" was compared to "Indiana Jones"). With those three on this project, this could be the sci-fi movie that every other sci-fi movie released after is compared to. Those two, along with Blomkamp, have enough creativity that they would not allow their movie to be a "Starship Trooper" and/or "Aliens" rip-off.
Hope that made sense

 

[Ninonybox_v1legacy]

im going to watch this at the beach on monday when i go on vacation.