Escape to the Movies: Earth to Echo - This Generation's ET?

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I'll probably pass on this one since I tend to get simulation sickness with found footage films.
 

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josemlopes said:
The rant Moviebob gives about Kevin Smith basicly applies in its entirety to Moviebob himself.
Pretty much, if anyone knows Bob, they know he truly fits the billet of everything he says about GenXers, Kevin Smith might as well be the alternate version of himself.
 

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Don't be sorry, I love Kevin Smith. His podcast empire is fantastic. I love nearly all his movies. He put his love behind The Dirties, which is a fantastic and poignant movie about school shootings but also much more about bullying and youth detachment.


His new movie "Tusk" sounds really interesting. I'm glad he's doing his own thing.

It's good you're finally giving reviews to lesser known but interesting movies, always like when critics give their recommendation to compete with the multiplex movies.
 

daxterx2005

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Wow, this movie looks super precious.
I didn't even know it existed till this review.
I'll probably give it a go, thanks Bob
 

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First Person Shakey-cam....

I will never watch this. Not targeted at me, but damn it seems sad such a neat concept for a movie is ruined by "found footage" shakey-cam garbage.
 

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Probably not gonna watch it, seeing as it doesn't really seem that worthwhile despite his praises, but nice to know regardless.

Also, I get it's Independence Day, but is there really a point in making one of your credits gag a simple American flag? Half of Escapist's traffic comes from outside that superpower, just to remind you.
 

Raika

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Bob Chipman talking shit about Kevin Smith is like TheAmazingAtheist talking shit about Bill Nye.

Yes, I'm mad. You leave my fat friend alone!
 

KazNecro

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*sighs* Bob, isn't it high time you did a Big Picture or something about your full opinion and reasoning behind your dislike of Kevin Smith? I'm getting fairly bored with the whole backlash of fans to your opinions about the guy. Can we finally find a way to put this topic to bed, so we can move on to better topics?
 

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Hm. Well, I hope this becomes a modern classic, judging by what you've said, Bob. Because it sounds like a winner to me.

As a small side note, let me say this:
GOONIES NEVER SAY DIE!
 

Steve the Pocket

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I'm not sure if it's really possible for adults old enough to be the parents of the kids in the movie to write a movie that truly speaks to that generation, as opposed to only making other adults think it does. I mean, I guess you could have actual kids help write it, but the last time someone tried that we got Sharkboy and Lavagirl. Having the movie revolve heavily around social media, or some other thing that's "popular with the kids these days", feels like an easy cop-out.

Thunderous Cacophony said:
OT: Just out of curiosity, has any Escapist actually had to move because of a freeway being built? It's something that I see pop up in movies and TV shows from the 80's and 90's all the time, but I've never seen it happen in real life (and I live in Ottawa, which is constantly expanding and running new roads). The worst I can think of is a couple lots being removed, not an entire neighbourhood.
Not a freeway, but our ... township hub? ... was bypassed a few years before I was born to cut down on traffic problems by rerouting the major US highway about a block away from the road it used to occupy (with no one allowed to build along the new stretch). A bunch of roads got intersected, and one had its middle third chopped out (I guess they decided they didn't want two intersections so close together), but most of the space it occupies is basically wasteland. I figure that factored heavily into the decision, since the whole point of a bypass is to build it away from where stuff is.
 

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TBP Bob: I was a massive tit for taking poignant pot-shots at Michael Bay
EftM Bob:*Takes random pot-shots at Kevin Smith less than a week later*

I for one second this:
KazNecro said:
*sighs* Bob, isn't it high time you did a Big Picture or something about your full opinion and reasoning behind your dislike of Kevin Smith? I'm getting fairly bored with the whole backlash of fans to your opinions about the guy. Can we finally find a way to put this topic to bed, so we can move on to better topics?
If you have a valid gripe about the guy then air it out in full Bob, stop foisting it on unrelated EftM episodes.
 

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rbstewart7263 said:
I dont get it why does bob hate that guy so much? Bob why do you hate kevin smith so much?

I literally just googled that and I got his blog and im reading and watching and Im like........Oh god I see it now. also I was right to hate jay and silent bob my god that was bad!!!!
If I was going to hazard a guess, it's because Kevin Smith is a big geeky guy who used to work in a video store whose independent media work caught enough attention to make a fairly solid run in the world of movies.

...Does the first three-quarters of that bio-snippet sound familiar?

One could make a case that Kevin Smith has squandered a certain amount of his good fortune and his time in the spotlight, that his recent work has been sub-par, and that he's devoted far too much time of late to public pissing matches rather than creative endeavors. That said, I'd argue he's also responsible for at least three or four movies that were good and/or entertaining, and there are certainly figures who have gotten more attention and had bigger blow-outs who have produced less of worth.

I speculate that part of Bob's grief is the feeling that if he had been a little closer to being Kevin Smith's contemporary rather than coming of age in an Internet era where content creators struggle to get heard over the noise, he would have seized the reins of stardom and done a better job of it. Sheer speculation, though; I don't want to pretend I have some special insight.
 

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Wow... Even before the alien being shows up, the movie already sounds like something I would be interested in watching on one of those uncut movie channels... Also, I keep hearing[footnote]as in, I looked at Jeremy Jahn's review of this movie...[/footnote] how the kids in this movie don't really act like kids of that age act, so that alone is making me a bit hessitent on my possible overall enjoyment of this movie when I do get to see it in the future, probably...

Oh well... At least I think this review was probably more positive than if MovieBob reviewed the movie Tammy instead...
 

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Callate said:
One could make a case that Kevin Smith has squandered a certain amount of his good fortune and his time in the spotlight, that his recent work has been sub-par, and that he's devoted far too much time of late to public pissing matches rather than creative endeavors. That said, I'd argue he's also responsible for at least three or four movies that were good and/or entertaining, and there are certainly figures who have gotten more attention and had bigger blow-outs who have produced less of worth.
I don't know if he squandered it, I mean now he's in the business of doing an avalanche of popular podcasts and live shows while using that momentum to make less conventional films. Granted said films are either not out yet or to be made (still in planning/production and what not) so I don't know whether they'll be up to his old standard but hey, at least he knows where he's going and seems happy with it...

...and while I wouldn't call myself an apologist and actually kind of like Red State in a morbid fascinating sort of way.
 

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anyone unaware of the reasons for disliking kevin smith has just not been paying attention. people forget that smith was writing the god awful superman that could have been with nic cage then shawn penn as supes. kevin smith has made a career out of being a "comic book nerd" and while I enjoyed a lot of his early movies the last good thing he did was clerks 2. that was a long time ago, red state, cop out, zack and miri make a porno, everything he's done since has been shit. ever read smith's run on batman? bruce wayne and Alfred make poop and fart jokes, the joker references getting ass-raped in arkham. it's juvenile in every sense of the word, and it's terrible. remember all those years ago he got in a big kerfuffle over an airline wanting him to buy two seats? I was surprised along with everyone else I mean smith is fat but not that fat right, then I saw him doing his evening of questions thing and went "oh yeah, that guy is a big fat fuck I wouldn't want to sit next to him on a plane either" guy blimped out absurdly. and he was so self righteous about it at the time it shows serious lack of self awareness. during his "to fat for 40" special he talks about having started smoking a lot of pot after doing zack and miri because seth rogan basically got him into it. now to be fair I know pot doesn't make you slow and stupid. but there is also a "stoner comedy" culture which is basically what smith got sucked into from what I've seen, stupid random stuff that will blow your mind if your stoned off your gourd but when you are sitting in a seat dead clean sober it's like watching a drunk make a fool of himself it's not funny it's embarrassing. kevin smith does kind of embody that "wanting to be 10 forever" attitude in the worst way possible. he's juvenile I mean clerks 2 showed a certain amount of growing up and then he just ran back to safety like a kid crawling into the womb now he smokes a shitload of pot to escape the reality of being a man child who is really talented but maybe doesn't have anything interesting left to say. that is of course all opinion and I don't know the guy so it could be wrong.

as far as micheal bay is concerned, I think he was apologizing for a personal attack while bob takes swiped at kevin smith's body of work he doesn't really comment on the man too much. and micheal bay at least seems to be maturing, say what you want but his films are getting better, they may still be explosion military worship fodder but micheal bay has the awareness to understand that about himself and aside from tmnt is starting to make more movies that suit his style as apposed to bending other franchises into something he likes. not giving him a pass for anything but the guy is growing as a human being. at least that's how it seems. again, don't know him so can't say for sure. plus I think when transformers 1 came out a lot of people couldn't see how crappy it was so bashing it was almost counter culture so a lot of internet critics did it for no other reason than to set themselves apart from the cool kids and be outsiders again. but now? seems like everyone knows micheal bay makes shitty movies and while everyone still kinda likes the transformer movies they understand what's wrong with them and nobody is running around going "omagerd optimus blarglflargle!!!!" they are just saying "I enjoyed it.". so with cooler heads it's easier to say, "wow I hated that ALOT more than I should have years ago."
 

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I don't really have any desire to see this, but it's good to hear that it's a well made family/kids flick. I get entirely too fed up and annoyed with every movie aimed strictly at kids being a 90 minute frantic poopy farty joke.
 

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Evonisia said:
That's a massive compliment, and I really get the impression that regardless of how good it is (haven't seen it yet), Generation X'ers will be denying that to their graves.

I might go see it, then, anyway.
GenXers are the ones who have kids the age that this was made for. GenXers' parents didn't poop on E.T. And Goonies. Why would they poop on this movie? There is such thing as being an inverse grumpy old man.

"Darn people who weren't born in close temporal proximity to me!"
 

PhiMed

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"The movie treats their constant use of electronics as healthy."

And it is, unless you believe the overwhelming majority of the medical community.

Still, it's the world we live in, and it has become the new normal. So it does make sense that the creators would treat it as just something that is.

Sounds like a good movie. My kids are a little too young for it right now, but I'll probably ring this one up once they're ready.
 

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FPLOON said:
Wow... Even before the alien being shows up, the movie already sounds like something I would be interested in watching on one of those uncut movie channels... Also, I keep hearing[footnote]as in, I looked at Jeremy Jahn's review of this movie...[/footnote] how the kids in this movie don't really act like kids of that age act, so that alone is making me a bit hessitent on my possible overall enjoyment of this movie when I do get to see it in the future, probably...

Oh well... At least I think this review was probably more positive than if MovieBob reviewed the movie Tammy instead...
While some kids are crude and crass I don't entirely subscribe to the opinion that they have to or do act like that. At least in my circle growing up we weren't foul mouthed or made crude humor when our parent's backs are turned.