Good. I like Valve, but dear god does Left 4 Dead bore me. It's good at what it does, but I just don't like it.Octopusesgarden said:
Escape to the Movies: Halo Legends
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Fucking agreed. A trend I've also noticed among the hating halo people is that alot of them have never even played the games, or if they have it was Halo: CE but less than three years ago and it, "Seemed bland with not too good graphics and a story that has been far too over used." Well, yeah if you played Halo: CE for the first time in 2008 of course the graphics are going to seem crappy because games now have infinitely better graphics, but in 2001 those graphics were very cutting edge. Of course the story is going to seem over used because most FPS's set in space for the last 9 years have basically taken Halo's story and characters and turned them into something that has flooded the market and been mediocre (Section 8 anyone?)dathwampeer said:
Sure Halo may seem mediocre and it may seem like something that isn't worth 2 shits, but at the time it was incredibly revolutionary. It practically single handedly re-birthed console FPS's, which hadn't had a new idea since Goldeneye.
B-b-b-but Metriod Prime 1-3...
B-b-b-but Bioshock...
B-b-b-but Serious Sam...
B-b-b-but Condemned...
B-b-b-but Perfect Dark...
I could go on, but I think others have beaten me to the point. (though if I'm the first person to bring up Metriod, I'd be pretty damn depressed)
Actually, I think you're more or less right in that most FPS's follow around Halo's example like it's the freaking LAW and deviating even slightly from what's already come is something nobody seems willing to do unless they're copying Call of Duty, instead.
Fortunatly, I've discovered that you can use this as a way to judge how good a game will be before it's even released; if it looks like a Halo clone, skip it, as you won't be missing out on anything mindblowing, anyway.
This rule has helped me avoid drivel like Area 51, Haze, The Conduit, Turok, Jericho and Wolfenstein, and for that I guess I can be thankful.
B-b-b-but Bioshock...
B-b-b-but Serious Sam...
B-b-b-but Condemned...
B-b-b-but Perfect Dark...
I could go on, but I think others have beaten me to the point. (though if I'm the first person to bring up Metriod, I'd be pretty damn depressed)
Actually, I think you're more or less right in that most FPS's follow around Halo's example like it's the freaking LAW and deviating even slightly from what's already come is something nobody seems willing to do unless they're copying Call of Duty, instead.
Fortunatly, I've discovered that you can use this as a way to judge how good a game will be before it's even released; if it looks like a Halo clone, skip it, as you won't be missing out on anything mindblowing, anyway.
This rule has helped me avoid drivel like Area 51, Haze, The Conduit, Turok, Jericho and Wolfenstein, and for that I guess I can be thankful.
i recently bought it and loved every short they all realy delved into the halo universe more, except for odd one out which is a hilarious pisstake, the visuals were all stunning especially the elite one(cant remember its name) so all in all well worth the 9.99 on itunes, its great to buy just to watch even if your not a halo fan or a anime fan.
I agree that a lot of video game heros of the west are one-dimensional ultra-masculine macho-men who only speak with grim detatchment or sarcasm...
but c'mon, a lot of Japanese characters aren't one-dimensional? what have we seen in games from Japan: spikey haired adolecents or males who look like women, who are angsty/snarky/smirky, involved in over-the-top melodramatic storylines, and talk way too much with snide grins or shakey rage-face... I know there's other stereotypes out there, but I don't watch a whole lot of anime or play many JRPGs
but c'mon, a lot of Japanese characters aren't one-dimensional? what have we seen in games from Japan: spikey haired adolecents or males who look like women, who are angsty/snarky/smirky, involved in over-the-top melodramatic storylines, and talk way too much with snide grins or shakey rage-face... I know there's other stereotypes out there, but I don't watch a whole lot of anime or play many JRPGs
It's not racist, because I don't hate the ones who have left the country (except those who genuinely deserve that hate), and it's not prejudice, because that would imply that I have no actual experience with it.Crunchy English said:
I don't know if there is a word for hating & despising something after you've experienced many aspects of it and even used to be able to speak the language.
So whatever that word is, that's how I feel about Japan. Fuck that place.
lordlee said:Nurb said:
What you're picture did to me was show me WRPG's have a variety in story telling, setting, and gameplay while JRPG's are pretty much the opposite.
Damn you sir! I got curious as to what Videogame Overthinker was, so I went there... 14 videos 12 Youtube comments and 4 hours later I realised that i actually intended to watch this and then the winner of the Escapist Filmfestval!simmeh said:
Seriously, those of you who haven't gone to this website: [link]http://gameoverthinker.blogspot.com/[/link] Do it! But be warned, hours will go by unnoticed. : )
I'll be honest. I kind of like Halo. Maybe it's the fact that I thought the first one was particularly pertinent because of an aside in the accompanying literature that the Covenant were religious fanatics intent on our annihilation (I'm in America. This was November of 2001.).
The story has gotten ridiculous at this point, but I liked the first story. Alien religious fanatics who use weapons of mass destruction to destroy infidels in the region of a religious artifact? Okay, I'll play that. It was just the right combination of ultranationalism/xenophobia and fantastical detachment for me at the time.
Also, the canon actually includes multiple female Spartans, and Halo: Reach is actually going have at least one playable female Spartan character for the campaign.
That being said, I can understand how someone could dislike the franchise. Master Chief is an unapologetic hyper-masculine badass, and the story doesn't do a whole lot to try to explain itself unless you're just curious enough about how the characters got into the situation they're in to seek out that information.
But I'm going to introduce a different fps defense than that to which you may be accustomed. How about Condemned: Criminal Origins? It's not really a "shooter", but what are your thoughts?
The story has gotten ridiculous at this point, but I liked the first story. Alien religious fanatics who use weapons of mass destruction to destroy infidels in the region of a religious artifact? Okay, I'll play that. It was just the right combination of ultranationalism/xenophobia and fantastical detachment for me at the time.
Also, the canon actually includes multiple female Spartans, and Halo: Reach is actually going have at least one playable female Spartan character for the campaign.
That being said, I can understand how someone could dislike the franchise. Master Chief is an unapologetic hyper-masculine badass, and the story doesn't do a whole lot to try to explain itself unless you're just curious enough about how the characters got into the situation they're in to seek out that information.
But I'm going to introduce a different fps defense than that to which you may be accustomed. How about Condemned: Criminal Origins? It's not really a "shooter", but what are your thoughts?
Of course he does, but those fans have enough self-distance to realize that the type of fan he was talking about exist in abundance.whycantibelinus said:
It's funny, I really liked Animatrix, but hated the Batman animations (the one about the bullet shield was alright, but it was mostly just crappy). I doubt I'd like any of these, and to be honest, I'm pretty sure that if I'd end up seeing Homecoming I'd sigh and mumble to myself that no way in hell have I ever seen this exact sequence in an anime before.
It's funny actually. Japanese writers often try to explore deep emotions in popular media like comics, games and animations to a larger extent than their western counterparts. Unfortunately they're mostly very bad at writing, but get undue credit by the people starved for that sort of thing (myself included). I mean, come on: there are people who consider Kojima the best writer in the industry!
I'd like to see more collaborations like these though. Perhaps we'll eventually get an original project where the writing is well-balanced on all fronts. Who knows?
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Don't just name-drop and hope for a response: Argue your point, dude
Wow! I've never been able to get into Halo, but Bob I think you may have sold me on this. Well I'll at least have to give this a rent sometime.
I honestly thought Odd one out was the best. It was funny, and had that anime feel I was looking for. Homecoming certainly was the most "Emotional" but I didn't like the characters or think they were interesting. The main SPARTAN of that one didn't have any organic feel whatsoever, but maybe she wasn't supposed too. Her movements were robotic, swift, and overall pointless which i suppose made the teddy bear dangling from her belt, shifting in the wind all the different against her blue metal robotness. The package I thought was the worst. It completely milked the Halo 1 opening dialog *Hint*No thanks to your driving yes. They did some other one's that i couldn't remember, because i thought that entire episode was so terrible. The duel, before I saw any of the other ones really made the movie for me. After the extremely boring "Origins" That was pretty dang awesome with sort of a whole Samurai vs. Ninja thing. I must say that had some pretty dang awesome energy sword duels.