Escape to the Movies: Hansel & Gretel: Witch Hunters
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Bob, I've been watching your videos a long time but even I'm confused by the link you have between witch hunts and this movie.
the director of Dead Snow screwed up an over-the-top joke film? Damn. I really liked Dead Snow too.
fucking January. I also wonder if the writer got dumped by a woman in the past and now he's taking it out on the women in this movie
Err Bob, I can assume in the film, that those women revealed to be witched are like the typical portrayal of witches as in having dark spell and using it for evil? There is no innocent women who were wrongly accused, they are just plain old evil witches.
I think you are way over analysing it especially when the film itself is bad (or did you got nothing better to do then to trying to dig deeper when there was nothing to start of with?).
Still from the sound of film, it sound like it's abit sexist (the femal lead get beaten up twice but the male lead doesn't)?
Lastly, oh come on! Abrams isn't like Michal Bay and his version Star Trek was GOOD and an excellent reboot to the franchise (especially when the previous films it feel like you HAD to watches the series first)!! Beside wasn't Bob reviews of it was good?
I think you are way over analysing it especially when the film itself is bad (or did you got nothing better to do then to trying to dig deeper when there was nothing to start of with?).
Still from the sound of film, it sound like it's abit sexist (the femal lead get beaten up twice but the male lead doesn't)?
Lastly, oh come on! Abrams isn't like Michal Bay and his version Star Trek was GOOD and an excellent reboot to the franchise (especially when the previous films it feel like you HAD to watches the series first)!! Beside wasn't Bob reviews of it was good?
I couldn't believe the news myself. Regardless of who directs the next star wars movie i'm sure it will be a hit at the box office so why not take on a good director who makes quality films? I understand why people like Abrams but their is no denying that his films are shallow and the lense flairs are annoying.
Good review as usual Bob, i had a feeling that this film would just be ripping off the brothers grim.
Good review as usual Bob, i had a feeling that this film would just be ripping off the brothers grim.
Soooo....your saying go see it? Ha ha, sorry, I love modern fantasy movies that don't have a strong romance theme going and this movie seems right up my alley, even more so since I saw your review. I don't imagine the Witch Hunt thing bothering me since really all it is, is a heavily exaggerated retelling of lets be honest, an already quite silly children's fairy tale. And because I can just dismiss the movie as fantasy and really not to be taken seriously, the misogynistic undertones are likely to fly right over my head.
I hadn't even heard of this movie before this review. And the first half of your review comes off as a bit oversensitive to misogyny. Granted, I haven't seen it so it could be as bad as you make it out to be. Though I'll probably give this one a miss anyway.
I had to turn this off after the first minute, I'm sorry but Jesus Christ I just want a movie review. The knee jerk reaction to J.J. getting Star Wars which I though was totally unfair. You might not like that director but calling him lazy?! Star Trek had it's faults in pacing and structure but it was a pretty well made movie even if bad decisions were made. And Super 8 was a very decent 80's throwback done well, something many people have tried and failed at. This from a guy who seemingly prides himself on being open minded. Then into the whole witch hunt thing. I know you have said there is not a lot to talk about in the movies you don't like so you tend to latch onto one thing that bugs YOU. I have enjoyed Bob's reviews in the past and The Big Picture is usually worth a look but please review a movie for what it is. I know they are subjective to the viewer, but your job is to relate this to us, the viewers who want to know if we should spend money on it. I miss the days when your reviews were 5 minutes of indepth discussion about a movie occasionally bringing up other movies to back up your point. How often do you just run out of time and bring up your opinion on esoteric nerd culture. You should have to be cutting these episodes rather than stretching them. Sorry man but critique is part of what these comments are for and I would rather say it and you will take it on board rather than just stop watching.
so, okish rental?
and while i love most of your stuff bob, please don't add "it will suck because of the director" after every bit of new you comment on regarding the star wars thing. maybe disney hires a burly super hairy Turkish wrestler who tasers him every time he thinks "lens flare". i am confident Disney has at least one guy who can read minds.
and while i love most of your stuff bob, please don't add "it will suck because of the director" after every bit of new you comment on regarding the star wars thing. maybe disney hires a burly super hairy Turkish wrestler who tasers him every time he thinks "lens flare". i am confident Disney has at least one guy who can read minds.
When the trailers arrive, I half expected Hansel & Gretel to team up with some good witches to "prove" not all of them were bad. Not that I am disappointed by the lack of the obvious trope, but I guess an obvious one would at least proven that they put a little effort to separate themselves from the simple premise.
Fighting monsters with steampunk weapons is a nice idea, but it was fresh in Van Helsing and Wild Wild West and not even that could save them. At this point, I kind of expect any monster action movie set in previous centuries to have some anachronistic devices just to make them interesting; to the point its almost cliche too.
And Bob, isn't it a little too easy criticism to say a movie about witch hunters is misogynist because the villains are witches? In popular culture, all witches are women... Its like accusing some videogame set on Africa of racism because most villains are black. I guess it hit a nerve with his Bostonian background, but I still think you are reading too much between lines.
I don't mind the choice of JJ for Star Wars. Its the obvious nerd choice outside of Whedon, but I think he can do pretty decent jobs. Sure, Star Trek had little in terms of science fiction, but it was a decent action flick, same as MI3; and I really liked Cloverfield.
Fighting monsters with steampunk weapons is a nice idea, but it was fresh in Van Helsing and Wild Wild West and not even that could save them. At this point, I kind of expect any monster action movie set in previous centuries to have some anachronistic devices just to make them interesting; to the point its almost cliche too.
And Bob, isn't it a little too easy criticism to say a movie about witch hunters is misogynist because the villains are witches? In popular culture, all witches are women... Its like accusing some videogame set on Africa of racism because most villains are black. I guess it hit a nerve with his Bostonian background, but I still think you are reading too much between lines.
I don't mind the choice of JJ for Star Wars. Its the obvious nerd choice outside of Whedon, but I think he can do pretty decent jobs. Sure, Star Trek had little in terms of science fiction, but it was a decent action flick, same as MI3; and I really liked Cloverfield.
I've gotta say, even Abrams is better than latter day Lucas. Would have preferred Guillermo del Toro, but at least it's not Michael Bay(though he would be a perfect fit for a Karen Traviss stormtrooper focused movie).
Okay...remind me. Who's that guy gonna be directing the new Star Wars? I'm brain farting right now, and can't put a name to that rather geeky looking face with the AAAAAAAAAAAH! THE LENSFLARE! IT BURNS US, MY PRECIOUS!
EDIT: NVM, it's Abrams. THAT explains the lensflare!
OT: I had a feeling this movie wasn't going to be good, or at least be overly cliched. God help us if they decide to turn Goldilocks into an action hero next...
EDIT: NVM, it's Abrams. THAT explains the lensflare!
OT: I had a feeling this movie wasn't going to be good, or at least be overly cliched. God help us if they decide to turn Goldilocks into an action hero next...
Jas0913 said:
The thing is, Star Wars is pretty shallow. There isn't any deeper meaning to any of it, it's a well told story that has good action, well written likable characters and a decent ending. It doesn't have anything to say beyond that.
Abrams is a talented director, he can do an ensemble pretty well and some of his action sequences are actually pretty amazing. It's his troupe of writers who suck, writing terrible movies that he directs. Star Wars won't have this issue as his writing troupe is nowhere to be found. And you better be damn sure that Disney, Lucasarts and the story team at Pixar are not gonna let this go through with a shitty script.
Abrams has a very small chance of screwing this one up, I mean, he's already made a pretty good Star Wars film in 2009.
Reacting to the very opening:
Oh come now, Abram's Star Trek may be kind of vapid, and Super 8 may have had script issues, but it's not like he's put out anything near as bad as the prequels. The fact that Disney's probably going to be very hands on here, and that they've kind of been really on their game lately seems really likely to balance out a lot of Abram's negative qualities. Star Wars is a big enough deal that I have to think that Disney would willing put the whole of Pixar's story team plus Joss Whedon to work on the film if they have to to get it working.
Oh come now, Abram's Star Trek may be kind of vapid, and Super 8 may have had script issues, but it's not like he's put out anything near as bad as the prequels. The fact that Disney's probably going to be very hands on here, and that they've kind of been really on their game lately seems really likely to balance out a lot of Abram's negative qualities. Star Wars is a big enough deal that I have to think that Disney would willing put the whole of Pixar's story team plus Joss Whedon to work on the film if they have to to get it working.