Escape to the Movies: Legion
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Great review, about "flying cute angel babies tearing people apart with their bear hands" there has been some chapters (the latests) on the Gantz manga where that actually happens, they are really statues of angel babies and there are some other cool statues too (it was set in rome), but it was badass.
See for yourself:
http://i358.photobucket.com/albums/oo24/SplinterAFG/GPGantz_ch292_p20.jpg
See for yourself:
http://i358.photobucket.com/albums/oo24/SplinterAFG/GPGantz_ch292_p20.jpg
I total agree with you about the needless forcing of religion into film,video Games,Comic and so on. I see many "artist" do this as a way to add "Edge" to what they are making without using any real intelligence.
you see I come from a Religions(Christan) upbringing and feel that sometime when this is done not only is it disrespectful but in many ways it just comes off as retarded (not that I can't differentiate from Fantasy and my own personal beliefs I can)
Also As A Christan I can say The Passion Sucked
It was 2 hours of sadist gore porn staring Jesus
set it in modern time and leave out Jesus and you would have Hostel
you see I come from a Religions(Christan) upbringing and feel that sometime when this is done not only is it disrespectful but in many ways it just comes off as retarded (not that I can't differentiate from Fantasy and my own personal beliefs I can)
Also As A Christan I can say The Passion Sucked
It was 2 hours of sadist gore porn staring Jesus
set it in modern time and leave out Jesus and you would have Hostel
MovieBob" post="6.170216.4635385 said:Legion
This week MovieBob takes a look at the apocalyptic "Legion".
Okay Moviebob you just earned some (more) gamer cred with me. I have to ask a totally unrelated question, and what that scene of the video game torture chamber is from? Is it an actual game, or a 'poster' type feature someone made to poke fun at the protests against gaming violence or something? I know enough obscure and independant games, where it somewhat bugs me when I don't recognize something, especially in the horror genere with me. Actually looks sort of like it might have been on the Apple II or even C-64 both of which I'm actually pretty familiar with
That said, I heard before the movie was actually released that the baby in Legion is basically Jesus. The central logic being held together by a "Dogma" like logic that god pretty much has to follow his own proclaimations. Jesus died for our sins and pretty much gave humanity a clean slate. God is all cheezed off at humanity (again) and among other things is trying to stop the second coming which would effectively force him to wipe the slate clean for humanity a second time. Admittedly this treads some extremely shaky theological ground even as a basic concept, due to the whole concept of a holy trinity and how Father, Son, and The Holy Ghost all interrelate. Certain questions like whether God and Jesus were the same, or if Jesus decided to reincarnate himself (making it Jesus and Michael, against God and Gabriel) were apparently not covered in the movie, nor was the basic concept. Kind of makes some of the discussions I had been in with other biblical apocolypse fans seem kind of silly.
That said, I do suspect you might be a bit biased against religious movies, although I've only seen you review two. Both of these movies seem like the kind of thing you would rave about otherwise. With this one for example (which I have yet to see) you compared it to a zombie movie, and honestly I kind of thought you LIKED zombie movies for some reason.
Maybe we should take up an internet petition here on The Escapist to send to "Huggies" to try and get them to produce it. At least it would be worth a laugh. I doubt the Escapist Management would do anything official on the site though even as a joke.laryri said:
That said since I was just going off on wierd games due to my confusion over Moviebob's screenshot, there WAS a game called "Messiah" which had you taking on the role of a cherub that could possess people in a dark future.
This prophecy, it's freakin' un-believable!
All hail the Walken!
I love the army of cherubs idea. The "angel in armor" idea does seem overdone, even if it is true to it's material. Although this movie sounds like it may be a good addition to "so stupid it's EPIC" collections.
All hail the Walken!
I love the army of cherubs idea. The "angel in armor" idea does seem overdone, even if it is true to it's material. Although this movie sounds like it may be a good addition to "so stupid it's EPIC" collections.
In terms of interesting angel types, what I'd really like to see is not generic muscly winged dudes or cute baby cherubs with assault rifles, but the old-school angel types done right. You know, angels that are just big wheels of fire and eyes, or four-faced monstrosities. Not that this is any more original an interpretation than "angels are God's black ops" is, but at least this one hasn't been done with a decent budget yet.
In retrospect, I'm not sure if this was the post worth registering for.
In retrospect, I'm not sure if this was the post worth registering for.
Well moviebob, at least you're fair enough to say both movies sucked. I, however, would like to think The Book of Eli is at least a little better in the following respects:
*It's a man-made apocalypse, and therefore carries more weight than a higher-power engineered one by reflecting more on human nature's self-destruction than the fickle nature of said power.
*The Bible really is that big of a deal. Back during the reformation, Luther stood up to the Papacy in how they were the only ones who could read the Bible and therefore could interpret it as they saw fit, which meant paid absolvements and such. If you hold the last Bible, you hold considerable leverage.
*If the Almighty really wanted to end it all, he'd rain down the fire and brimstone and disintegrate everything on the surface of earth, not send his Angels to carry out a holocaust.
*Last but not least, I really have a soft spot for these kind of Fallout-style apocalypse stories, where Man has to survive a post-apocalyptic world triggered by his own doing as opposed to God's (see first point).
Besides, I think it has more to do with where we come from as far as faith goes. It might be a catholic thing (I know plenty of lapsed, bitter Catholics like you), but my church life was relatively normal, and I have a very healthy respect for Christians as a whole despite their wrongdoings (FYI I was raised Adventist and am currently non-practicing). I'm not the least bit bitter of the whole thing whereas you are, and thus am more open to at least a movie advocating the spread of despite it's potential for abuse, something very important and that's inspired considerable goodwill towards all men.
Hell, it doesn't have to be a Bible, it could be a Buddhist Sutra or a Confucius text: I just like the idea better of one man saving a inherently altruist work than God starting the apocalypse out of his fickle nature. Read Twain's Letter's to Earth sometime, I liked it myself.
Besides, I have a very deep fear of Revelation. Maybe it's my aforementioned respect, but Revelation is the granddaddy of all apocalypses: where plague and nature ravage humanity while we're persecuting and warring against ourselves. That's one out of the two reasons why I dislike material like Evangellion, which also had the double-whammy of featuring batshit-crazy teens piloting mecha and fucking themselves over with their insanities. No thanks, I'm good.
*It's a man-made apocalypse, and therefore carries more weight than a higher-power engineered one by reflecting more on human nature's self-destruction than the fickle nature of said power.
*The Bible really is that big of a deal. Back during the reformation, Luther stood up to the Papacy in how they were the only ones who could read the Bible and therefore could interpret it as they saw fit, which meant paid absolvements and such. If you hold the last Bible, you hold considerable leverage.
*If the Almighty really wanted to end it all, he'd rain down the fire and brimstone and disintegrate everything on the surface of earth, not send his Angels to carry out a holocaust.
*Last but not least, I really have a soft spot for these kind of Fallout-style apocalypse stories, where Man has to survive a post-apocalyptic world triggered by his own doing as opposed to God's (see first point).
Besides, I think it has more to do with where we come from as far as faith goes. It might be a catholic thing (I know plenty of lapsed, bitter Catholics like you), but my church life was relatively normal, and I have a very healthy respect for Christians as a whole despite their wrongdoings (FYI I was raised Adventist and am currently non-practicing). I'm not the least bit bitter of the whole thing whereas you are, and thus am more open to at least a movie advocating the spread of despite it's potential for abuse, something very important and that's inspired considerable goodwill towards all men.
Hell, it doesn't have to be a Bible, it could be a Buddhist Sutra or a Confucius text: I just like the idea better of one man saving a inherently altruist work than God starting the apocalypse out of his fickle nature. Read Twain's Letter's to Earth sometime, I liked it myself.
Besides, I have a very deep fear of Revelation. Maybe it's my aforementioned respect, but Revelation is the granddaddy of all apocalypses: where plague and nature ravage humanity while we're persecuting and warring against ourselves. That's one out of the two reasons why I dislike material like Evangellion, which also had the double-whammy of featuring batshit-crazy teens piloting mecha and fucking themselves over with their insanities. No thanks, I'm good.
Am I the only one that noticed this movie is saying God is pro-choice? I mean the 'Angels' are trying to kill a pregnant women before she gives birth. They're not doing it before she gets pregnant, and once the baby is born apparently it's too late for them. So in other words, they've been sent to perform an abortion, and God's cool with that.
Just thought it was kind of funny!
Just thought it was kind of funny!
This was one of those movies where upon seeing the trailer I thought "well at least the reviews will be entertaining," yeah.
