Escape to the Movies: Legion

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ccesarano

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As someone else in this thread commented, I too am Christian and found this to be blatantly...well, not insulting because "oh my dear, God would never do THAT", but in the "wow, did these guys even go to Sunday School at least? Ow, my brain".

- God says he'll never do something like flooding the Earth again to wipe people out because they've grown sinful. Ok, so that means...he needs to wipe everyone out using Angels instead? What, did he just get sick of it and say "fuck it, we're cutting things short early"?

- Isn't Lucifer (Satan) supposed to be the one wanting to wipe people out? What's he doing in all this? Is he laughing his ass off screaming "YOU SEE?! I WAS RIGHT ABOUT THEM ALL ALONG!" or something? Wouldn't this, in fact, be a good time for him to try enlisting people onto his side (assuming he tries to "steal souls away" to begin with, which I've never quite believed)?

- So, Lucifer, who himself was an Angel, couldn't beat God, but Archangel Michael and some fetus ARE? Huh?!

- Y'know, I get using that "We Are Legion" thing for your title, sure, but that was a bunch of demons possessing some guy not angels. Get it right you lazy hacks.

It's like this whole film fails from any basic understanding of Christian theology. You don't even have to believe in God to see all the flaws with this thinking. I hope all the previews finally stop playing for it as well. I mean, the studios must know they have a forgettable piece of crap on their hands if they are putting commercials up for it 24/7.

This is the sort of film that is just as misguided as the entire music industry. They are trying to intrigue 16 year old kids that have no understanding of anything and say "HEY LOOK! IT'S A GREAT FILM!". But it's not going to work.

I was afraid for a moment as well, as there are two tiny, tiny, TINY details related to an idea I have for some sort of media series (TV, book, comic, I really don't know) that I've slowly been developing the past few years. It's got that World of Darkness sort of vibe, but with Christianity at the center. However, the intent isn't to be "edgy" nor is it to be preachy. I had the idea because 1) I figured it was entertaining, and 2) could provide a way for me to discuss philosophy and theology on Christianity that wouldn't be shoving it in people's faces. I've come to learn a lot the past several years of becoming a Christian, and you begin to see how many things people are completely wrong about (Christian and Non alike). So sure, I'd like to do something epic and Gothy just because it would be fun entertainment, and wouldn't even be intended to be good theology (considering I'd be tossing some Catholic ideas in to boot), but would also try and give SOME thought provoking material.

Maybe I'm asking too much to hope industry professionals might do the same thing?
 

McNinja

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Wow, this trailer just totally kills my want to see this movie.

Oh wait, no it didn't.

It would take all of the angels in heaven approximately 10 seconds to kill everything on earth.

Angels aren't like Gods black ops team, they're like Gods Space Marines. Anyone recall that story in the bible where one angel completely destroys that army of tens of thousands of men? Maybe movie producers/studios/directors should, I don't know, read the bible first. Maybe get some of that theology down before they start pulling stuff out of their behind.
 

DanHibiki

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BTW, Neon Genesis has nothing to do with Christianity. They used the names because they thought they sounded cool and non of the people involved were Christin and has third hand knowledge of Christianity at best.
 

Samurai Goomba

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One thing that really bugs me about angels in movies is that they tend to be constantly disguised as humans. And WHY would any angel EVER who faces off in combat EVER want to use human weapons or stay in human form? If I were an angel, the first thing I would do in a serious fight would be to grow forty feet tall and whip out a flaming sword.

At no point in the Bible has it ever been written, "And thus the angel, after encountering the vile forces of the devil, didst grab a sharp stick and began poking the demons furiously whilst remaining in human form."

zombi2989 said:
Well at least I know my suck-dar is still working fine. I also never realized "The Crow" had christian allegories. I just thought it was a really long music video for The Cure.
Perhaps it's more accurate to say that much rock and metal culture has Christian references.
 

Tdc2182

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Well, I am kind of Christian and I thought it looked lame. Though everyone else said Book of Eli was really cool
 

Aiddon_v1legacy

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Firstly: yes, Eva is awesome, even though the Christian stuff was just a way to make things sounds cool (too bad the other five billion clones didn't quite get that)

Secondly: The D. Gray-man manga series has creepy, cherub-like creatures doing very nasty things to various people.

Thirdly: Bettany is also going to star in the doomed adaptation of the Korean comic Priest . Oh, and the comic has an undead priest slaughtering demons, zombies, and fallen angels across the American West with an arsenal of dynamite, tommy guns, and a silver-edged Bowie knife <3

Fourthly: Why are all the angels in fiction just the same old armored humans with wings? Has anyone actually READ what some of those things look like? I mean, crap, one set is wheels with eyes, no joke.
 

Ghonzor

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I feel for you on the Catholic school thing.
It officially redefined my version of Hell.
 

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I liked the "Book of Eli" for the same reason I like well made movies about any mythology: When I don't believe in it, it is just set dressing and narrative. It was a well produced and acted story that uses a Christian plot in a Fallout world. Denzel is a good actor when he shuts his mouth, and Gary Oldman does play the same post apoc tyrant that has ever been, but his goals illustrate a good metaphor: control natural resources and use religion to expand control; Eli is freedom of religion, something that can't be bought or stamped out by persecution.

"Legion" takes the same route, replace Gabriel and Michael with Fenrir and Thor or Ares and Hercules and you have the same basic story in my mind. But like Moviebob pointed out, it isn't well executed, so regardless of attempts to be edgy, it just come off as poorly rehashed, like catching a glimpse of the "Left Behind" movies on the scary-religious channel some Saturday afternoon spent surfing. I doubt there is any symbolism to be found in this film.
 

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wildcard9 said:
That's one out of the two reasons why I dislike material like Evangellion, which also had the double-whammy of featuring batshit-crazy teens piloting mecha and fucking themselves over with their insanities. No thanks, I'm good.
While I actually like the series I would have to say that that is probably the best description of Neon Genisis Evangellion I've ever heard... But I what I find more questionable is how the hell Spawn is inferior to NGE. Mind you as I've already said I enjoy Neon Genisis Evangellion, but I preffer Spawn much more because; well he's fucking Spawn, he's like The Punisher if he was tasked with fighting the legions of hell itself.
 

dalek sec

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wildcard9 said:
Besides, I have a very deep fear of Revelation. Maybe it's my aforementioned respect, but Revelation is the granddaddy of all apocalypses: where plague and nature ravage humanity while we're persecuting and warring against ourselves. That's one out of the two reasons why I dislike material like Evangellion, which also had the double-whammy of featuring batshit-crazy teens piloting mecha and fucking themselves over with their insanities. No thanks, I'm good.
Same reasons I never did like Evangellion as well, I'd rather have drunk and crazy Starbuck at the controls of one of things than Asuka or Shinji, hell I'd take Saul Tigh controling one.
 

TheDoctor455

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"God is a meathead douchebag... in the movie anyway"

Moviebob, I know that you are afraid of Christians coming in to burn your house down, but come on! One of the reasons that I'm an athiest is because I read the Bible from cover to cover.

And the one thing I kept noticing throughout was that time and time again, God proved himself to be the genocidal douchebag rather than the benevolent parental figure that Christians keep going on about. Which leads me to the conclusion that most Christians, don't actually read the very text that they consider holy.

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But to get back on topic...
Good review. When the trailers first appeared, I remember thinking to myself that if this spawns a glut of angelic survival horror movies/games, then at least I would have one more thing to laugh about the idiots who ate this shit up... and I even came up with a title for one of the games that would pop up if this "genre" took off... Left 4 Feathers.
 

A random person

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I just have to say I liked the Eva bit you slipped in there.

More on topic, good review and reasons not to see the movie, though granted I wasn't planning to in the first place.
 

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DanHibiki said:
BTW, Neon Genesis has nothing to do with Christianity. They used the names because they thought they sounded cool and non of the people involved were Christin and has third hand knowledge of Christianity at best.
What do you mean it's not symbolic? [http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/ptitlebqmxtrir9bav?from=Main.WhatDoYouMeanItsNotSymbolic]

If MB is going to invoke tvtropes, then so will I.
 

KeyMaster45

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I get the feeling he hates movie like Eli and Legion just because they use the christian mythos as a basis. I went see Eli last week even after I'd watched his review and thought it was a great movie, now I haven't seen this one so he may end up being right. Still I can't help feeling there's a bit of "christian hate" behind his reviews on both movies.