Why, thank you- I'll take that as a compliment.usucdik said:Your post is hilarious.CosmicCommander said:The problem is, films like this will be alienating a large portion of their potential audience; such as myself. Sexual Conservatives like myself are driven away by all the promiscuity and debauchery going on- I'll be finding it almost imposable to connect with the characters.
Roll on January, the King's Speech looks like where I am gonna be enjoying- a good old-fashioned cast, with a nice, morally agreeable premise and plot.
Ireland. I tend to imagine it is a sense of catholic guilt engineered into me. That and my naturaly geeky akwardness. Some stuff is fine to see when your own (in fact very nice to) but in public less so. You will find people uncomfortable with public displays of affection as well so I'm not alone.VenusInFurs said:"Heck I feel self conscious seeing even a scantly clad girl in public."
Where the hell are you people from? This is what I mean. Jeez.
Pretty much this.Baby Tea said:I kind of have to disagree that sex is 'relationship fuel'.
Sounds like a pretty hollow relationship to me.
Sex is certainly there, and important to a degree, but to call it 'fuel' is vastly overstating it's importance.
And by 'vastly' I mean 'really really vastly'. Unless you're 15 or something.
And since your recommendation seems bend around the fact that they seem to be 'real' only because they are having a bunch of sex (And that's what real people do, apparently. All the single people I know obviously have a 'friends with benefits' thing on the side. Totally realistic), that the rest of the cliched tripe can be overlooked?
I find that hard to digest, Bob.
You try to pass off the addition of sex as something 'real', and then say 'see it for the obvious eye candy', essentially dumbing down that point of 'real relationships' to worthlessness. Apparently it's just boobs. How nuanced.
Are you seriously saying we have to overlook everything you said in your 'Yes' tirade, describing every romantic comedy cliche in existence (The only thing it's missing is her gay friend, apparently), just because they have sex?
Because, really, that was your big point: Sex is there. Now it's real.
Seems rather low-brow, and just an excuse for girlfriends to drag their boyfriends along.
I'll pass.
I'm not 15, Bob.
Well he was right that sex is pretty important in most modern western romantic relationships. He just seemed to phrase it in a way which elimate the other factors.The_Prophet said:Pretty much this.
Christ, it's hard to take Bob seriously now. Hell, I am 15 and I know that everything Bob said about relationships in that review is bollocks.
He basically said "Well, look, romantic comedies suck because the romances don't have enough sex. This one has sex, so this relationship is believable" and then he went on about how sex is what makes it believable and how naked men and women make the film good.370999 said:Well he was right that sex is pretty important in most modern western romantic relationships. He just seemed to phrase it in a way which elimate the other factors.The_Prophet said:Pretty much this.
Christ, it's hard to take Bob seriously now. Hell, I am 15 and I know that everything Bob said about relationships in that review is bollocks.
Baby Tea said:I kind of have to disagree that sex is 'relationship fuel'.
Sounds like a pretty hollow relationship to me.
He didn't actually say it wasn't important, what he said (paraphrasing of course) is that it's not the foundation that a good relationship will be built on. Which is absolutely true.Outright Villainy said:I'm in two minds about this. On one hand, Bob didn't really give much more reason to their relationship being believable than just sex.
On the other, BabyTea saying sex isn't important in a relationship is baffling.
Well I'm afraid I took it differently from you then. What I got was he was criticising the average rom-com for having no sexual element at all, it's usually like something a lonely fifteen year old girl would write, hopelessly devoid of any real grounding in the mechanics.He basically said "Well, look, romantic comedies suck because the romances don't have enough sex. This one has sex, so this relationship is believable" and then he went on about how sex is what makes it believable and how naked men and women make the film good.
agree with that. I don't look at a girl and think "she seems like a great person!" but rather "she has an ass which just won't quit".That said, I also feel like he might have taken away something a little different than I did from the review (though perhaps I'm somehow still a bit naive about these things even when I'm pushing 30). The impression I got was not that the sex is the fuel of the relationship, but more that sexual attraction was the catalyst that causes the relationship to ignite. Now, you CAN have a perfectly good relationship in which A: physical attraction is ignored and B: sex is not important to them. But the point I think he's trying to make here is that in a lot of relationships, at the very least this is how it starts, and the danger of extinguishing it or keeping it burning indefinitely is based around the actions of those involved after that initial burst of sexual energy has been expended. The idea being that this film recognizes that more often than not this is how it works, and to build a relationship you should acknowledge that this bit of physical attraction usually comes first.
I've read Dan Savage before. And it is 100% percent true that sex is a lot more important than a lot of people are willing to admit. There's a REASON that it's hardwired into 99.999999% of peopleVenusInFurs said:Has anyone here read Dan Savage or listen to The Stranger podcast? Sex in a relationship is very important. It's 50/50. Actually, it's a very legit reason to break up. Anyone who says other wise is lying (especially if you're a man). I swear the comments here are cringe worthy. Come on, I know most people who comment here are guys, but you can't be that pathetic. It's like being in a room of "nice" guys being "nice" and saying "the right things" to get laid. By the way, my cock did move when I saw Gaspar Noe's Enter the Void, Why? Because I'm a frigging human being!!! Maybe I'm being a bit harsh, but sex is very important in a relationship, just like having an emotional connection is. There has to be sexual chemistry and sexual computability there. It looks like most people here haven't had experience in this department.
Really it's just there are many vocal conservatives around who feel they must announce their disagreement with Bob's more relaxed view towards sex. Problem is they state their points as fact and not opinion.VenusInFurs said:There has to be someone who agrees with me here, right?