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ninja555

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Wait a minute ... a romantic comedy that isn't british that does not suck, *runs to window*, ok worlds not coming to an end just yet.

But I won't go to see it any way. I doubt it can top 4 weddings and a funeral.
 

Ericb

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Yes, romantic comedies don't have to suck. But most do because they don't have the guts to show true passion.

That's why the only one that I have liked so far is Frankie and Johnny, now that's human relationship for you.

Most others are fantasy fulfillment for silly females. Much like most action movies are that for silly males.

... though we all must engane in sillyness eventually lest we turn insane. But some people just overdo it.
 

Aiddon_v1legacy

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I can definitely see the problems with sex being kept out of a romantic movie. Let's face it, sex is ALWAYS a big part of a romantic relationship and the exclusion of sex kinda damages the credibility of the writing. I mean, fuck, even Twilight makes mentions of sex. There are of course a lot of problems with Hollywood's conservative, misunderstood ideas of romantic storylines, but avoiding a key part of relationships is definitely one of them.

As for Anne Hathaway's body, not my thing. Ah the glories of not having a sex drive or a romantic interest in anything (kinda like Sherlock Holmes)
 

CosmicCommander

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usucdik said:
CosmicCommander said:
The problem is, films like this will be alienating a large portion of their potential audience; such as myself. Sexual Conservatives like myself are driven away by all the promiscuity and debauchery going on- I'll be finding it almost imposable to connect with the characters.

Roll on January, the King's Speech looks like where I am gonna be enjoying- a good old-fashioned cast, with a nice, morally agreeable premise and plot.
Your post is hilarious.
Why, thank you- I'll take that as a compliment.

Yeah, yeah, my grammar and spelling were gawd awful there. That's what tends to happen when I haven't had my caffeine.
 

RTR

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He forgot to mention that unlike most romcoms, it's leading stars are proven to be good actors.
 

VenusInFurs

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Has anyone here read Dan Savage or listen to The Stranger podcast? Sex in a relationship is very important. It's 50/50. Actually, it's a very legit reason to break up. Anyone who says other wise is lying (especially if you're a man). I swear the comments here are cringe worthy. Come on, I know most people who comment here are guys, but you can't be that pathetic. It's like being in a room of "nice" guys being "nice" and saying "the right things" to get laid. By the way, my cock did move when I saw Gaspar Noe's Enter the Void, Why? Because I'm a frigging human being!!! Maybe I'm being a bit harsh, but sex is very important in a relationship, just like having an emotional connection is. There has to be sexual chemistry and sexual computability there. It looks like most people here haven't had experience in this department.
 

VenusInFurs

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"Heck I feel self conscious seeing even a scantly clad girl in public."

Where the hell are you people from? This is what I mean. Jeez.
 

370999

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VenusInFurs said:
"Heck I feel self conscious seeing even a scantly clad girl in public."

Where the hell are you people from? This is what I mean. Jeez.
Ireland. I tend to imagine it is a sense of catholic guilt engineered into me. That and my naturaly geeky akwardness. Some stuff is fine to see when your own (in fact very nice to) but in public less so. You will find people uncomfortable with public displays of affection as well so I'm not alone.
 

coldfrog

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For me, when MB talks about geek film, despite myself generally associating with Geekdom and such, I find myself a little turned off. OK, I wasn't really a comic book geek, though I did greatly enjoy the Iron Man films, but I also have to say that despite his glowing review of Scott Pilgrim, I still had almost no desire to see it.

On the other hand, his review of this and 2012 for instance, films I had virtually no interest in, provide the real insight into films that makes MovieBob good at what he does. He provides real insight into the quality of a film on the basis of real filming and writing techniques, and that is something I don't feel I get out of most mainstream critics. Just like some gaming reviewers can be in the pocket of big games, so I feel are many reviewers getting paid for their opinion. And that's why I keep watching. Great job, Movie Bob.

(I made a rhyming)
 

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I kind of have to disagree that sex is 'relationship fuel'.
Sounds like a pretty hollow relationship to me.

Sex is certainly there, and important to a degree, but to call it 'fuel' is vastly overstating it's importance.
And by 'vastly' I mean 'really really vastly'. Unless you're 15 or something.

And since your recommendation seems bend around the fact that they seem to be 'real' only because they are having a bunch of sex (And that's what real people do, apparently. All the single people I know obviously have a 'friends with benefits' thing on the side. Totally realistic), that the rest of the cliched tripe can be overlooked?

I find that hard to digest, Bob.

You try to pass off the addition of sex as something 'real', and then say 'see it for the obvious eye candy', essentially dumbing down that point of 'real relationships' to worthlessness. Apparently it's just boobs. How nuanced.

Are you seriously saying we have to overlook everything you said in your 'Yes' tirade, describing every romantic comedy cliche in existence (The only thing it's missing is her gay friend, apparently), just because they have sex?

Because, really, that was your big point: Sex is there. Now it's real.
Seems rather low-brow, and just an excuse for girlfriends to drag their boyfriends along.

I'll pass.
I'm not 15, Bob.
Pretty much this.
Christ, it's hard to take Bob seriously now. Hell, I am 15 and I know that everything Bob said about relationships in that review is bollocks.
 

370999

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The_Prophet said:
Pretty much this.
Christ, it's hard to take Bob seriously now. Hell, I am 15 and I know that everything Bob said about relationships in that review is bollocks.
Well he was right that sex is pretty important in most modern western romantic relationships. He just seemed to phrase it in a way which elimate the other factors.
 

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I'm glad you found a romantic-comedy that you enjoyed. I gleaned from your review that I would probably hate it. I have nothing against sex in a movie but as one person pointed out to me before, "romance ends where sex begins". I like a good prelude and character development putting sex into context rather than movies that jump into bed and then try to figure out if they even LIKE the person! (Music and Lyrics).

It's nice to hear they are branching out and trying something new. But, as cheesy as you may find it, women do want to find that guy that wants to star-gaze, hold hands, and go for walks on the beach as well as have sex. Women aren't as visually oriented as men so dropping two people on a screen having sex just doesn't cut it.

But making in-roads towards romantic films or romantic-comedies that are enjoyable for both men and women to watch is laudable. In the meantime I guess I will go watch Easy A and Entrapment again. Still, thank you for reviewing this one because I thought it was another "Eat, Pray, Love" which looked absolutely terrible on the other end of the scale. You take some bullets so we don't have to.

Oh-and what happened to your "Twilight" review? It was the most thoughtful and different look at the series that I saw. You had some really good points about the marketing to women and I wasn't able to find it the last time I tried to show it to a friend. Your insightful look at a movie that is REALLY easy to mock is what won me to your show. I hope all your work stays up!
 

The_Prophet

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370999 said:
The_Prophet said:
Pretty much this.
Christ, it's hard to take Bob seriously now. Hell, I am 15 and I know that everything Bob said about relationships in that review is bollocks.
Well he was right that sex is pretty important in most modern western romantic relationships. He just seemed to phrase it in a way which elimate the other factors.
He basically said "Well, look, romantic comedies suck because the romances don't have enough sex. This one has sex, so this relationship is believable" and then he went on about how sex is what makes it believable and how naked men and women make the film good.
 

coldfrog

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Baby Tea said:
I kind of have to disagree that sex is 'relationship fuel'.
Sounds like a pretty hollow relationship to me.
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I'm in two minds about this. On one hand, Bob didn't really give much more reason to their relationship being believable than just sex.

On the other, BabyTea saying sex isn't important in a relationship is baffling.
He didn't actually say it wasn't important, what he said (paraphrasing of course) is that it's not the foundation that a good relationship will be built on. Which is absolutely true.

That said, I also feel like he might have taken away something a little different than I did from the review (though perhaps I'm somehow still a bit naive about these things even when I'm pushing 30). The impression I got was not that the sex is the fuel of the relationship, but more that sexual attraction was the catalyst that causes the relationship to ignite. Now, you CAN have a perfectly good relationship in which A: physical attraction is ignored and B: sex is not important to them. But the point I think he's trying to make here is that in a lot of relationships, at the very least this is how it starts, and the danger of extinguishing it or keeping it burning indefinitely is based around the actions of those involved after that initial burst of sexual energy has been expended. The idea being that this film recognizes that more often than not this is how it works, and to build a relationship you should acknowledge that this bit of physical attraction usually comes first.

Of course, this is pretty much all moot since I haven't seen the film yet, but I'd like to give Bob the benefit of the doubt that when he says a romantic comedy is worth seeing, especially in this age of mediocre, overhyped films, he knows what he's talking about. I guess I'll find out soon enough!
 

KefkaCultist

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a romantic comedy I might actually be interested in that isnt directed by Kevin Smith o_O
I think this is the sign of the apocalypse people
 

370999

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He basically said "Well, look, romantic comedies suck because the romances don't have enough sex. This one has sex, so this relationship is believable" and then he went on about how sex is what makes it believable and how naked men and women make the film good.
Well I'm afraid I took it differently from you then. What I got was he was criticising the average rom-com for having no sexual element at all, it's usually like something a lonely fifteen year old girl would write, hopelessly devoid of any real grounding in the mechanics.

That said, I also feel like he might have taken away something a little different than I did from the review (though perhaps I'm somehow still a bit naive about these things even when I'm pushing 30). The impression I got was not that the sex is the fuel of the relationship, but more that sexual attraction was the catalyst that causes the relationship to ignite. Now, you CAN have a perfectly good relationship in which A: physical attraction is ignored and B: sex is not important to them. But the point I think he's trying to make here is that in a lot of relationships, at the very least this is how it starts, and the danger of extinguishing it or keeping it burning indefinitely is based around the actions of those involved after that initial burst of sexual energy has been expended. The idea being that this film recognizes that more often than not this is how it works, and to build a relationship you should acknowledge that this bit of physical attraction usually comes first.
agree with that. I don't look at a girl and think "she seems like a great person!" but rather "she has an ass which just won't quit".
 

Aiddon_v1legacy

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VenusInFurs said:
Has anyone here read Dan Savage or listen to The Stranger podcast? Sex in a relationship is very important. It's 50/50. Actually, it's a very legit reason to break up. Anyone who says other wise is lying (especially if you're a man). I swear the comments here are cringe worthy. Come on, I know most people who comment here are guys, but you can't be that pathetic. It's like being in a room of "nice" guys being "nice" and saying "the right things" to get laid. By the way, my cock did move when I saw Gaspar Noe's Enter the Void, Why? Because I'm a frigging human being!!! Maybe I'm being a bit harsh, but sex is very important in a relationship, just like having an emotional connection is. There has to be sexual chemistry and sexual computability there. It looks like most people here haven't had experience in this department.
I've read Dan Savage before. And it is 100% percent true that sex is a lot more important than a lot of people are willing to admit. There's a REASON that it's hardwired into 99.999999% of people
 

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There has to be someone who agrees with me here, right?
Really it's just there are many vocal conservatives around who feel they must announce their disagreement with Bob's more relaxed view towards sex. Problem is they state their points as fact and not opinion.
 

WaderiAAA

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Hm, you probably have a point here. Last romantic comedy I liked was Just Married, where they may not have actually had sex, but that was because of tons of unfortunate circumstanzes, so it is not like they weren't trying.