Escape to the Movies: Machete Kills

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JimB

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Huh, I didn't know he did movie reviews in his column. Thanks for the heads up, Flatfrog.
 

Evonisia

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Looks like good fun, I'll probably watch it sometime because I can ignore some issues in anything so long as they're entertaining.

Caramel Frappe said:
Lady Gaga, to me looks like she's going to be my favorite actress in this movie. Don't ask me why XD
You should probably look up the Aura lyric video while you wait to see it then :)
 

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Brockyman said:
And of course Bob continues his "I have to talk about something ungodly liberal in every review" cliche. He's becoming like Brian in Family Guy, started out full of wit and humor as a straight man and devolving into a liberal cliche.

C'mom Bob, not everything has to be about something.

Also, border security isn't "anti-Mexican". While I know some people do have racist intentions, the majority of Americans that support border security just want to be secure. Most of them don't mind good, hardworking, TAX PAYING, LEGAL immigration, and most support making becoming legal easier for those who deserve it (i.e. not drug dealer, rapist ect).

Not everything in life is fueled by racism and sexism, and while they still do exist (and probably always will since stupid people can't be exterminated), it's not the end-all, be-all to everything, and consistently using it is like the boy crying wolf to the point most people don't care.
It's mostly a side effect of Republican policies from the 70's-90's biting them in the ass. Back when they decided to continue courting the Racist vote by shrouding it in the trappings of economic policies (yes, they actually did document that). Given that many of the same assholes are still in charge or have influence (and Republicans even now saying dumb racist/misogynist junk), you can see how it taints... well, damn near everything they say regarding anybody not White.

One last point
-I personally think the US should intervene in the cartel wars in Mexico NOW! I saw the Extra Credits about "Call of Juarez" and googled "Mexican Drug War" and got my first hand view of how horrible it is, and why people would want to get the hell out of there. I think the destruction of the cartels by US forces would allow a lot of peace an opportunity to return to Mexico, allowing people to return and be with family and friends they left behind. A safe and secure Mexico is good for Mexicans and Americans.
Plus, frankly the whole thing does spill over into the US from time to time.

Personally, I think they should first go ahead and cut their purse strings. Taxation and competition can do a lot to kill the allure of the drug business.
 

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Robot-Jesus said:
Brockyman said:
Also, border security isn't "anti-Mexican". While I know some people do have racist intentions, the majority of Americans that support border security just want to be secure. Most of them don't mind good, hardworking, TAX PAYING, LEGAL immigration, and most support making becoming legal easier for those who deserve it (i.e. not drug dealer, rapist ect).

Arizona and Colorado have roughly the same sized Hispanic population. One has horrible "papers please NOW" laws and the other one doesn't. One is a mecca for retirees and the other one isn't.

Now why would having a large population of old white people make illegal immigration a much larger issue then it is without them?
Thank you for a perfect example of what I was talking about!

1. The Arizona immigration law isn't a "paper's now" law, as in people have to produce immigration papers on request at any time, like walking down the street. The law only mentioned it in reference of already ongoing criminal investigations, and allowed the state to enforce CURRENT US IMMIGRATION LAWS, which the US Government hasn't been doing for a long time across multiple political situations.
Basically if someone is arrested for a crime, their immigration status is check as part of the investigation, and deportation becomes an option. I don't know why this is considered a bad thing?
I know there could be ways it could be abused, but you could say that about any kind of law currently out there. I don't want to assume that you are intentionally miss characterizing the law for this argument, so I'm assuming that you just didn't know from the media that didn't do a good job explaining it.

2. I honestly don't get where you're going with the "retiree" argument honestly. Colorado is #5 on the AARP list for best states to retire in, Arizonia isn't in the top ten. Is you're argument that old people in Colorado want Hispanics to stay for a cheap workforce?

3. Of course you had to mention "white people". Reverse racism at it's finest. My opinion (and that of most people I know) don't want ANYONE coming over without following the laws, including Europeans, Africans, Asians, Australians, ect. Along with that, I (and those same people) feel that there should be a fast pass immigration to those with good intentions and records with marketable skills and without a criminal record (including Hispanics). I'm also well acquainted with many people, including those of Hispanic descant that favor border security.

4. Maybe you can answer these questions for me, in all seriousness and curiosity. I don't understand why people think this way, and if I did, it could help me to understand the other side.

-Why does the left give a free pass to illegal immigration by Hispanics into the US?
(YOU CAN'T USE "IT WAS THEIR LAND FIRST" AS AN ARGUMENT. 1. WE WON IT IN A WAR WITH A TREATY AND PAID FOR THE LAND 2. NATIVE AMERICAN'S WOULD GET FIRST DIBS ANYWAY. 3. IT'S THE BAST GTF OVER IT)
-Why is it considered racist to want others to follow laws that are less harsh then Mexican immigration law?
-Isn't it kind of racist in itself to give them a pass?
-Isn't it racist they have a group called "La Raza" (literally "the race") that has been legitimized in the debate?
-What level of border security should we have? What should immigration policy be? And what kind of tax structure or benefits would be allowed to non citizens
 

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The first film was so dumb... I remember laughting, which means I was proberly enjoying myself but that pool scene was something else, I cringed... then got a boner, but a cringy kind of boner.
 

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SAMAS said:
Brockyman said:
And of course Bob continues his "I have to talk about something ungodly liberal in every review" cliche. He's becoming like Brian in Family Guy, started out full of wit and humor as a straight man and devolving into a liberal cliche.

C'mom Bob, not everything has to be about something.

Also, border security isn't "anti-Mexican". While I know some people do have racist intentions, the majority of Americans that support border security just want to be secure. Most of them don't mind good, hardworking, TAX PAYING, LEGAL immigration, and most support making becoming legal easier for those who deserve it (i.e. not drug dealer, rapist ect).

Not everything in life is fueled by racism and sexism, and while they still do exist (and probably always will since stupid people can't be exterminated), it's not the end-all, be-all to everything, and consistently using it is like the boy crying wolf to the point most people don't care.
It's mostly a side effect of Republican policies from the 70's-90's biting them in the ass. Back when they decided to continue courting the Racist vote by shrouding it in the trappings of economic policies (yes, they actually did document that). Given that many of the same assholes are still in charge or have influence (and Republicans even now saying dumb racist/misogynist junk), you can see how it taints... well, damn near everything they say regarding anybody not White.
We can mainly agree on the last point so I cut it. I'm not against legalization of some drugs. Also, some proactive intervention could stop the violence from spilling across and helping the poor villagers that see the brunt of it every day.

To the point.

1. I don't get your "racist vote" thing. The Republican Party was founded by slave abolitionists in 1854 and included Abraham Lincoln. The Republican Party had a very strong voice in Civil Rights legislation, and mainly democrats, including George Wallace in Alabama, were Democrats. Yes, there asshole that are racists in all parties, but there isn't any directly racist actions I've ever seen.

2. What "racist/misogynist junk" are you refering too? You whole "they say regarding anybody not White" already shows your bias, but I'd like to hear your opinion. I'll also give you a few examples others shoot out at as racist or misogynistic.

-Government shouldn't pay for abortions or birth control. This one is always held up as misogynistic, and thinking that is honestly, stupid. Small government activists don't want the government to pay for anything, or as little as possible. It's not anti-woman, but anti-spending

-Abortion. This is seen to an afront to women's rights. Take a look from a different perspective. The people on that side of the aisle see life as important and precious and see abortion as killing an innocent life. While I personally don't want legislation to make abortion illegal, I understand their point, and shudder that people use it as birth control when so many great things are out there to stop pregnancy

-Voter ID. This is probably the stupidest one I've heard. "It's RACIST" TO WANT PEOPLE TO HAVE IDs to VOTE!!! You have to have an ID to do almost anything in this country from writing and cashing checks, to traveling by car or air, ect. Why shouldn't you have to prove who you are to vote? An instead of talking about "disenfranchising voters", why don't those groups help underprivileged people GET THEIR STATE IDS!
 

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PunkRex said:
The first film was so dumb... I remember laughting, which means I was proberly enjoying myself but that pool scene was something else, I cringed... then got a boner, but a cringy kind of boner.
I think "cringy kind of boner" is the internet's phrase of the day!
 

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Stabby Joe said:
Ever since Red State (a film that wasn't even that bad), Bob seems to have in for Kevin Smith recently, despite previously implying enjoyment of his past work. Confusing.
Not only wasn't it "that bad", it was unique, very low budget and pretty much all around awesome. The things that make it unique is pretty much what Bobby hated about it*, is what I got from his review of it. Everyone acts their ass off, people suddenly die Game of Thrones style for no apparent (story) reason.
It's not perfect at all (Smith has never been an action director of any merit), but the overall impression to me when the credits roll is "Wow, did I just see that? I'll have to watch it again!" I'd say it's tied for fourth place on my list of favourite Kevin Smith movies, which is somewhere in the middle, but it's the only one of the bunch that really made me go "wow".


*Why this translates into retroactively not liking his earlier stuff, I'm just as confused as you about. Maybe we're reading him wrong on that, and he just means "the old movies are still good, I just don't know what sort of "promise" we saw in him, and we probably never defined it".
 

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DAT FINAL SECTION. Holy hell, I'm not sure why that made me laugh so much out of a "Good christ, did they just pull that?" kinda way, but I'm guessing that says it all about the Machete films, not seen a film be that creative in terms of violence and body parts, although I've gotta be honest, I've not seen many films.
Now need to track down the first on dvd before finding if this will play anywhere Near me, before resigning it to another "at some point in the future" dvd sale
 

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Pulling a dude through a helicopter blade via his colon? A-okay! Nipple? Nooooooope.

Welcome to the future, lads and lasses. It's gonna be a repressive ride.
 

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Pulling a dude through a helicopter blade via his colon? A-okay! Nipple? Nooooooope.

Welcome to the future, lads and lasses. It's gonna be a repressive ride.
Yeah, I always find that a touch ridiculous, like you're more likely to see a decapitation before a set of naked boobs. Yet which one's more likely to hurt? Or at the very least, leave a mark on the floor that requires a bit more than a fresh bottle of Disinfectant to clean up afterwards...
 

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Brockyman said:
SAMAS said:
Brockyman said:
And of course Bob continues his "I have to talk about something ungodly liberal in every review" cliche. He's becoming like Brian in Family Guy, started out full of wit and humor as a straight man and devolving into a liberal cliche.

C'mom Bob, not everything has to be about something.

Also, border security isn't "anti-Mexican". While I know some people do have racist intentions, the majority of Americans that support border security just want to be secure. Most of them don't mind good, hardworking, TAX PAYING, LEGAL immigration, and most support making becoming legal easier for those who deserve it (i.e. not drug dealer, rapist ect).

Not everything in life is fueled by racism and sexism, and while they still do exist (and probably always will since stupid people can't be exterminated), it's not the end-all, be-all to everything, and consistently using it is like the boy crying wolf to the point most people don't care.
It's mostly a side effect of Republican policies from the 70's-90's biting them in the ass. Back when they decided to continue courting the Racist vote by shrouding it in the trappings of economic policies (yes, they actually did document that). Given that many of the same assholes are still in charge or have influence (and Republicans even now saying dumb racist/misogynist junk), you can see how it taints... well, damn near everything they say regarding anybody not White.
We can mainly agree on the last point so I cut it. I'm not against legalization of some drugs. Also, some proactive intervention could stop the violence from spilling across and helping the poor villagers that see the brunt of it every day.

To the point.

1. I don't get your "racist vote" thing. The Republican Party was founded by slave abolitionists in 1854 and included Abraham Lincoln. The Republican Party had a very strong voice in Civil Rights legislation, and mainly democrats, including George Wallace in Alabama, were Democrats. Yes, there asshole that are racists in all parties, but there isn't any directly racist actions I've ever seen.
Please, please stop with the "Well, we were on the good side a hundred years ago" argument. As the old question goes: "What have you done for me lately?" And the answer isn't good. I suggest you look up the term "Southern Strategy". Here's something to get you started -- an excerpt from a 1981 interview with Lee Atwater:

Questioner: But the fact is, isn't it, that Reagan does get to the Wallace voter and to the racist side of the Wallace voter by doing away with legal services, by cutting down on food stamps?

Atwater: You start out in 1954 by saying, "******, ******, ******." By 1968 you can't say "******" ? that hurts you. Backfires. So you say stuff like forced busing, states' rights and all that stuff. You're getting so abstract now [that] you're talking about cutting taxes, and all these things you're talking about are totally economic things and a byproduct of them is [that] blacks get hurt worse than whites. And subconsciously maybe that is part of it. I'm not saying that. But I'm saying that if it is getting that abstract, and that coded, that we are doing away with the racial problem one way or the other. You follow me ? because obviously sitting around saying, "We want to cut this," is much more abstract than even the busing thing, and a hell of a lot more abstract than "******, ******."[4]

Short version: in the Lyndon Johson passed the Civil Rights Act of 1964), pissing off much of the South, save for Texas ('cause it's LBJ!). Barry Goldwater and the Republican Party moved to take the Southern states by appealing to racist voters. It worked, and the situation you mentioned for that past hundred years or so reversed completely.


2. What "racist/misogynist junk" are you refering too? You whole "they say regarding anybody not White" already shows your bias, but I'd like to hear your opinion. I'll also give you a few examples others shoot out at as racist or misogynistic.
?just too much that you don?t know,? Bennett said. ?But I do know that it?s true that if you wanted to reduce crime, you could ? if that were your sole purpose ? you could abort every black baby in this country, and your crime rate would go down. That would be an impossible, ridiculous, and morally reprehensible thing to do, but your crime rate would go down.?
--Bill Bennet

"I struggled with it myself for a long time, and I realized that life is a gift from God, and I think even when life begins in that horrible situation of rape, that it is something God intended to happen." -- Richard Mourdock (R)Indiana (former, thankfully)

"These Planned Parenthood women, the Code Pink women, and all of these women have been neutering American men and bringing us to the point of this incredible weakness...We are not going to have our men become subservient." Allen West (R) Florida (Also former, and proof that it's not only White Republicans that say dumb sh*t).

"If it's a legitimate rape, the female body has ways to try to shut that whole thing down." Todd Akin (R) Missouri (Again, former, showing that people are much less tolerant of that thing anymore)

"The facts show that people who are raped ?who are truly raped?the juices don't flow, the body functions don't work and they don't get pregnant. Medical authorities agree that this is a rarity, if ever."
?former Rep. Henry Aldridge (R-N.C.)

"As long as it's inevitable, you might as well lie back and enjoy it."
?Former Texas Republican gubernatorial contender Clayton Williams on rape

All of this was said in the past year.

-Government shouldn't pay for abortions or birth control. This one is always held up as misogynistic, and thinking that is honestly, stupid. Small government activists don't want the government to pay for anything, or as little as possible. It's not anti-woman, but anti-spending
I didn't say jack about this...

-Abortion. This is seen to an afront to women's rights. Take a look from a different perspective. The people on that side of the aisle see life as important and precious and see abortion as killing an innocent life. While I personally don't want legislation to make abortion illegal, I understand their point, and shudder that people use it as birth control when so many great things are out there to stop pregnancy
...Or this...

(And there are simpler ways of birth control than abortion, like pretty much all of them save for the surgical methods. And cheaper, too. So no, I don't see many women using abortion as a measure of birth control. That seems like getting a root canal every time you get a cavity.)

-Voter ID. This is probably the stupidest one I've heard. "It's RACIST" TO WANT PEOPLE TO HAVE IDs to VOTE!!! You have to have an ID to do almost anything in this country from writing and cashing checks, to traveling by car or air, ect. Why shouldn't you have to prove who you are to vote? An instead of talking about "disenfranchising voters", why don't those groups help underprivileged people GET THEIR STATE IDS!
...or this, for that matter.
 

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Kick Master snip
It's ok, I forgot it existed till you brought it up, but, yeah, its your standard 2D side scrolling beat em up, like Shatter Hand or Batman, but with a leveling system.
 

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I need to see Charlie Sheen as the president. He'd be better then Obama. I just had a thought, Obama as himself in a movie!
 

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SAMAS said:
Brockyman said:
Please, please stop with the "Well, we were on the good side a hundred years ago" argument. As the old question goes: "What have you done for me lately?" And the answer isn't good. I suggest you look up the term "Southern Strategy".
As opposed to the Democrats, who are nothing but a shining beacon of purity and all the is good in this world, right? Let's go to the "old question" and ask them(the democrats), what have you done for me lately?

Oh that's right, they decided to give companies a break but screw over individual people [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sCXNeHmx9Qw&t=1m44s]. Better yet, the democrat administration have set up a website that doesn't even work despite the fact that poor college kids are being forced against there will to use the website if they don't want to be fined. Just for kicks, watch Kathleen Sebelius dodge all of John Stewart's questions about whether or not the Affordable Care Act website is working properly:


Gee, what else can I look at when I think of that question, "what have you done for me lately"? Oh, I see that under the current administration, Edward Snowden is treated as a criminal, Chelsea/Bradley Manning was illegally put in prison for three years prior to being convicted for any crime, and is now serving a 35 year prison sentencing. Meanwhile Julian Assange still faces questionable charges that might be used by the US to get him extradited if he ever leaves the Ecuadorean embassy.
That's not even getting into the whole NSA spying program and how Obama basically said that we should trade freedom for security(despite previously being against such views) [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vixVPE4LBAU] and we should allow the PRISM program [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PRISM_%28surveillance_program%29] to continue to run.
And who could forget the fact that NONE of the CEO's of any of the major banks that caused the 2008 economic meltdown have faced any jail time, and instead, said companies received tax payer funded bailouts, all the while people are having their houses foreclosed on them.

Then there is the fact that Obama seemed to be dead set on military intervention in Syria despite the fast majority of the US being opposed to it.

And finally who could forget about Libya? A move that SNL rightfully criticized for having a questionable justification [http://videos.mediaite.com/video/SNLs-Muammar-Gaddafi-Has-Some-A].

Yeah, good thing those democrats are not as bad as those horrible republicans, right?
 

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Helmholtz Watson said:
Yeah, good thing those democrats are not as bad as those horrible republicans, right?
Both of America's parties are essentially different shades of the same BS. I forget whose political model it is, but I'm very convinced by the one that describes things in terms of two different axes - one measuring a standpoint between authoritarian government and libertarian government and another measuring left (socialism) or right (unlimited capitalist) approaches to economic policy. On this diagram, both the Republicans and the Democrats fall decisively inside the upper-right quadrant of authoritarian/right-wing-economics, where the government is unstoppably powerful and works hand-in-hand with an ever-shrinking oligarchical class that lobbies on both sides of the aisle. The Democrats may be incredibly talented at appearing to be 'the modern Left', but all of that is insincere 'lifestyle liberalism' mixed with heaps of advertising and triumphalist nonsense. To me, it's simply galling to watch my dumb Democrat friends do asinine crap all of the time, i.e. slap some equals-sign sticker on the back of their car and assume that such an act amounts to political participation, go on running races to end discrimination, etc... Give me a break. Gay people will only gain privileges (i.e. not 'rights', such magic ideals have little bearing in the real world) in this country when the government decides that their taxable income is more important to them than pandering to poor, backwards, religious zealots. Women and minorities will similarly suffer until the government feels that their mistreatment is causing a net amount of money to disappear. As for these supposed 'leftists', not a one of them ever go to town meetings, vote in elections that aren't sensationalized presidential races (and sometimes they skip that too), read deeply about matters of wealth disparity, environmental sustainability, workers' rights, America's imperialist interventions in the third world, militarization of domestic police forces, etc...
 

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Caostotale said:
I forget whose political model it is, but I'm very convinced by the one that describes things in terms of two different axes - one measuring a standpoint between authoritarian government and libertarian government and another measuring left (socialism) or right (unlimited capitalist) approaches to economic policy.
I think you're thinking of the political compass [http://www.politicalcompass.org/].

O/T are you sure they've dialed back on the gore bob? Because some of those clips looked pretty bloody.
 

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Anyone else going to see this just because of Danny Trejo?
I am.

I would watch "Danny Trejo kills some time while drinking a beer"
Where Danny Trejo just stares at the camera for an hour drinking a beer.

That would be fun.
Just saying.