Escape to the Movies: Rise of the Planet of the Apes

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Blind Sight

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I'm probably going to see this tomorrow for kicks, I'm somewhat disappointed with the story changes that have occurred since the first movie though. I thought the first movie was really effective because it wasn't the result of some man vs. ape event, humanity instead destroyed itself and apes took their place gradually as a product of evolution (then again, evolution wouldn't occur in less then two thousand years, but I'll let that slip as movie science). It wasn't about the apes overthrowing humanity, it was about humanity's self-destructive nature and the end result (the late movies somewhat changed this however). It defeats the moral of the story to have it as an ape vs. man story (although they do replace it with some racial commentary in the older movies). I agree with the late Charleton Heston, the story should have ended with that iconic scene of the Statue of Liberty.

I'm just hoping that the movie won't be one of those cliched 'WHAT HATH MAN CREATED WITH HIS TERRIBLE SCIENCE, TRESPASSING IN GOD'S DOMAIN' stories that the trailers seem to be presenting. Because finding the cure for Alzheimer's is just wrong, right? (Wasn't that also the plot of Deep Blue Sea?)
 

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samaugsch said:
PunkRex said:
summerof2010 said:
Simian super intelligence aside, is anyone else not just immediately turned off from this movie by the sheer implausibility of the entire thing? Not only is the science behind the Altimeters mega brain serum softer than a pedophile's dick in a retirement home, but as far as I can tell, the pinnacle of primate weaponry is a freaking spear. I mean, yeah, the local police force is going to be flabbergasted at first, and the city where they first strike is going to get steamrolled, but are you trying to tell me that by the end of this the entire might of the world's standing armies can't contend with a legion of monkeys maybe a few thousand strong? Because frankly, that's ape-shit bananas. Pun intended.
I basically said that minutes after you. Im all for the Sci-fi aspects (I love fantasy and sci-fi) but spears, REALLY!? I hope Ceaser pulls some serious genocide, like a new strain of small pox.
I don't see why the apes had to use spears. If they're so smart, why don't they break into the gun stores and start using the guns in there? Heck, they could even have the gorillas use detachable miniguns. xD
...And now we suddenly have an idea for more awesome movie.

Littaly said:
I had no idea that the ending of Planet of the Apes was considered an OK spoiler. I had it spoiled a few months ago by a podcast when the trailer for this movie was released, which got me pretty annoyed but since then I've heard it both left and right from pretty much everywhere. I should probably give that original movie a watch...
The DVD cover literally spoils the whole movie.

EDIT: Double post, my bad.
 

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Looks fun, but I'll still wait for DVD. Andy Serkis doing motion capture is worth that much at least.
 

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MovieBob does enjoy some bad stuff now and them, like with "Piranhas" and "2012". So there is a chance that this is just another one of these cases. I'm preety skeptical that this will be any good. BUT, I may give it a shot because of Bob's favorable review.
 

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Maybe Patrick Dempsey should play a villain. He's so hot but he's in such awful movies. Maybe he could turn his crappy career around if he's change his typecast a little bit.
 

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Hmmm wasn't going to watch this movie...but I might now although maybe I might just wait til it comes out on DVD/Blu-Ray.

I can't take John Lithgow seriously though now. Whenever I see him act in something all I think is that hes the 'Trinity Killer' and think hes a serial killer who deserves to die.
 

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SonOfVoorhees said:
monnes said:
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I can't bring my self to watch this movie for 2 reasons
1. Its kind of stupid because theres about 7 billion humans and less than 1 million primates and it's not like he had access to like every jungle in shit so the idea as a whole is just dumb.
2. This isn't how the origional story went and i'm a massive nerd and dislike the massive story change
Yes, and all zombie movies are stupid because we would easily beat them before the infection has spread. Also the Harry potter movies are stupid because they didn't use guns. These sort of films are unrealistic, yes, but that's part of the charm. I'm betting most sci-fi films you like has inconsistencies with reality far greater than Rising of the Planet of the Apes.
No. A zombie kills and makes another zombie. It spreads. Or does a monkey killing a human in this film turn them into another monkey?

Plus you can put a monkey down by shooting them in any part of their body. A zombie its the head. Have to be realistic to the rules of the movie. Monkeys are monkeys. Zombies are zombies.

Maybe a film about Zombie Monkeys taking over the world? That would be awesome.
Well there are a number of reason why a zombies uprising wouldn't make it.

They Have Too Many Natural Predators
Biting is a Terrible Way to Spread a Disease
Weapons. (This applies to apes as well though)

These gorillas are more intelligent, which makes it about equal plausability for both these events.

I also would like to mention that I would pay big money for a film about zombie apes taking over the world.
 

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MovieBob said:
Rise of the Planet of the Apes

A great blend of drama, sci-fi and apes attacking helicopters.

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Bob, considering the recent movies of the past, oh, I dunno, 10 years "OMG X even killed the helicopter" seems like a really, really tired trope.

Whenever you have the one-man-killing-machine character, having it kill a helicopter is a very VERY common 'shit just got real' moment.

In fact, it has gotten to the point where almost any movie that includes scenes of strong looking helicopters, will make sure one bites the dust to something you don't expect. It's the same thrill as seeing ewoks trash ATST in Jedi.

But... now it's just boring and hackneyed.
 

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MovieBob said:
The problem with movies today, in a nutshell - instead of approaching a ridiculous premise with "It seems highly unlikely that this could happen, therefore I'm interested to see how the film finds a (hopefully) creative solution to that unlikeliness;" you get "Why don't they just shoot them? The trailer isn't telling me exactly how, therefore it's stupid."

This is why we can't have nice things.
God Damn right. There is a reason you didn't reveal anything about the last act besides "they win."

Doesn't anyone want to see their expectations turned around? To be surprised by a creative twist? What else are you people going to see? The smurfs? Captain America again?

I want nice things.
We have nice things. Bob's perspective is perplexing. Ya wanna know what I thought this movie was about? a villian origin. Namely gorilla grodd. I don't know anything about his history but wouldn't have been a nice thing to hear a origin story about a super villian than a good guy for once? Hmph. You and bob. there is always nice things to have but there is also always nicer things we will never have. But that is all subjective.
 

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Andy Serkis is awesome! I wish there were more things with him in them. I'll just have to wait for Tin-Tin to come out to see him in action again.

After I see this film of course...
 

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Huzzah, more 'lol F&F sucks' hate. Gee, that doesn't get old, Bob. Got a grudge or something? Seriously, let it go. If you can make peace with Michael Bay movies, I don't see why you can't accept F&F stuff too.

I probably won't see the movie, just not interested. I did like Splice, though, and I'm surprised that John Lithgow is in it. I love him as an actor.
 

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The critical consensus on this movie seems to be that it's quite good, which frankly surprised me ? when I saw the trailer I thought that it looked really stupid. I'll check it out if I get the chance. Plus, Andy Serkis is awesome, so that's another reason to give it a look.

That said, I'll probably end up watching it on DVD instead of seeing it in the theaters.
 

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You seem to be stuck on this Helicopter thing. Bob, I have a feeling you would like King Kung Fu [http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0228486/]
 

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For everyone wondering how can apes take over a city and start a revolution, they don't. They are just trying to escape to the woods. Also, the gorilla attacking the chopper scene is a pretty touching scene once you know the reason for it.
 

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MovieBob said:
The problem with movies today, in a nutshell - instead of approaching a ridiculous premise with "It seems highly unlikely that this could happen, therefore I'm interested to see how the film finds a (hopefully) creative solution to that unlikeliness;" you get "Why don't they just shoot them? The trailer isn't telling me exactly how, therefore it's stupid."

This is why we can't have nice things.
that is a nice idea bob, but then...

Mischlings said:
The updated, more aggressive virus that is used to cure Alzheimer's (yes, it's a virus used as a cure, there's real science behind that) has bad side effects on humans. One of the lab assistants is killed and it's directly stated that it's because he was exposed to the virus. Therefore, wherever the apes become more intelligent, a deadly-for-humans virus follows.
and that is a fucking retarded explanation, especially since I would have had to spend 10-20 bucks to figure it out. Call me thick but I'd rather have a movie that makes a bit of rational sense on the trailer and has a moderate twist such as District 9, than have a huge hole in the plot they fill with a soft science apocalypse. This is not a monkey apocalypse then, its a virus apocalypse with monkeys jumping around flinging their poo...

And it still doesn't explain why airstrikes weren't launched against the monkies via Tomahawk Cruise Missiles from some warship off the coast... or where the hell is the fucking army??!! We do have gas-masks and shit for fighting a biological/chemical warfare, for god sake we spent 650 billion dollars on the shit last year...