Escape to the Movies: Scott Pilgrim vs. The World
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This just seemed liek he was looking for reasons for people to go see it beyond the video game angle. Let me explain. The whole verbal diarrea describing the "relationships" and what not just seemed like you were forcing yourself to like it. From what I've seen and heard about this movie, you are giving it WAY too much praise for its protrayel of relationships for kids these days.
I'd see it fi i wasn't paying for a ticket. Oh and Matt Serra should quit while he's ahead and stop playing the dweeby, quite, teenage loser roles, though he is well suited for it, being a dweey, quite, teenage loser.
I'd see it fi i wasn't paying for a ticket. Oh and Matt Serra should quit while he's ahead and stop playing the dweeby, quite, teenage loser roles, though he is well suited for it, being a dweey, quite, teenage loser.
I really -REALLY- wish that I could go see this movie. I've read all the books and I totally love Scott Pilgrim.
...but for some strange inexplicable reason the cinemas here in Sweden has decided that this movie isn't worth showing. I've emailed the different cinema chains and the only response I've gotten has been "Yea..well..we haven't planned to show the movie. But you know, stranger things have happened so maybe sometime in the future if you're really lucky."
How the -hell- am I supposed to see this movie? I seriously want to see this movie, but if I have to wait a year for the DVD release to have a chance of seeing it (legally) then I'm going to be seriously fucking pissed. Oh, and before some wise guy says it, travelling out of the country is -so- not an option for watching a film.
...but for some strange inexplicable reason the cinemas here in Sweden has decided that this movie isn't worth showing. I've emailed the different cinema chains and the only response I've gotten has been "Yea..well..we haven't planned to show the movie. But you know, stranger things have happened so maybe sometime in the future if you're really lucky."
How the -hell- am I supposed to see this movie? I seriously want to see this movie, but if I have to wait a year for the DVD release to have a chance of seeing it (legally) then I'm going to be seriously fucking pissed. Oh, and before some wise guy says it, travelling out of the country is -so- not an option for watching a film.
I just saw this and maybe the most fun I've had in a cinema in years. It may not be as in depth as Inception or as touching as Toy Story 3, but Scott Pilgrim is a hell of a lot of fun. This is something I could watch a dozen times (I am getting the DVD day one) and never bore of it. Some fun jokes, great visuals and style and epic fight scenes.
I sincerely hope films like this continue to be made as often I enjoy having some pure fun when I go out to the cinema.
I sincerely hope films like this continue to be made as often I enjoy having some pure fun when I go out to the cinema.
I just saw this film today. It's a sheer spectacle of ridiculousness. Also, the female characters are much better than all the male ones.
Sorry bob, but while I almost always have agreed with you on most things (Though I've always been a Sega fanboy, not a Nintendo one) both movie and video game related, I absolutely hate, hate, hate hated this movie. I hated it so much. You mention No More Heroes as a good identifier to see if it's up my alley. I fucking love No More Heroes, but I still hated this movie. A friend said, "If you like anime you'll like this movie", that ended up being untrue as well. Cinema Snob said "If you think Invader Zim is funny", which I do, but I still hated this movie.
It is, from top to bottom, poorly written hipster bullshit garbage. I guess I would best describe it as Shitty Hipster Canadian Fooly Cooly. Speaking of which, being a professional musician myself and loving FLCL, seeing Michael Cera with a Rickenbacker bass guitar was absolutely rage inducing. I don't think I've ever seen a movie that left me this angry. The last one I can think of is Tranformers: ROTF, but while horrible, I went to see it out of bile fascination, not hopeful that it would be good like I thought this would be.
Scott still seems awkward to me. He feels so bland and uninteresting, despite him being something of a douchey airhead. I still feel like he is there as author/audience wish fulfillment, like the film is trying to force me into thinking he's cool.
I also don't get the 7 evil exes. I don't understand it at all. Like, I get that it's trying to be a send up to video games, but even the worst excuse plot still has some logic. Take No More Heroes for example. The excuse plot of the game is that you're an assassin in an assassin's guild of sorts. If you challenge and kill the assassin who out ranks you, you receive their rank. That at least has some logic involved. But seven evil exes? What? WHY!? I don't get it. Everyone has told me "It's a metaphor for the emotional baggage Ramona has. She's being haunted by the evil exes because she's letting herself be haunted by them." I'm not seeing it.
I hate the video game and pop culture references here. It feels really juvenile to me. Its like "Hey! You sure like video games, right? I do too! Lets be friends!" Its just feels like the most shallow way to try to appeal to me. This movie isn't funny in the least either. And even with Scott's character development, I can barely see it in the final act. He makes different choices, but I haven't seen him mature and change. I'm not buying how he comes to his almost non existent change.
This is easily the worst thing Edgar Wright has done.
I haven't read the comics (Which have just the most insipid awful art by the way). After seeing this I probably never will.
I have a feeling that in a few years people won't care about this movie anymore. I feel like people are being blinded by the video game references and the idea that this movie is about them, that this movie gets them. I can't really think of a movie about the hipster crowd of our generation that really 'gets' them. I don't think it appeals to hipster sensibilities except in the most shallow of ways.
I just don't get this movie. I don't get the appeal. Can anyone explain this thing to me?
Also, not only that, but as a musician, the fucking music was awful. ABSOLUTELY AWFUL. First off, what self respecting bassist primarily uses a pick? Second, the "Bass battle" was garbage. Name me a serious bassist (I.E. not terrible) that uses a mustang bass?
It is, from top to bottom, poorly written hipster bullshit garbage. I guess I would best describe it as Shitty Hipster Canadian Fooly Cooly. Speaking of which, being a professional musician myself and loving FLCL, seeing Michael Cera with a Rickenbacker bass guitar was absolutely rage inducing. I don't think I've ever seen a movie that left me this angry. The last one I can think of is Tranformers: ROTF, but while horrible, I went to see it out of bile fascination, not hopeful that it would be good like I thought this would be.
Scott still seems awkward to me. He feels so bland and uninteresting, despite him being something of a douchey airhead. I still feel like he is there as author/audience wish fulfillment, like the film is trying to force me into thinking he's cool.
I also don't get the 7 evil exes. I don't understand it at all. Like, I get that it's trying to be a send up to video games, but even the worst excuse plot still has some logic. Take No More Heroes for example. The excuse plot of the game is that you're an assassin in an assassin's guild of sorts. If you challenge and kill the assassin who out ranks you, you receive their rank. That at least has some logic involved. But seven evil exes? What? WHY!? I don't get it. Everyone has told me "It's a metaphor for the emotional baggage Ramona has. She's being haunted by the evil exes because she's letting herself be haunted by them." I'm not seeing it.
I hate the video game and pop culture references here. It feels really juvenile to me. Its like "Hey! You sure like video games, right? I do too! Lets be friends!" Its just feels like the most shallow way to try to appeal to me. This movie isn't funny in the least either. And even with Scott's character development, I can barely see it in the final act. He makes different choices, but I haven't seen him mature and change. I'm not buying how he comes to his almost non existent change.
This is easily the worst thing Edgar Wright has done.
I haven't read the comics (Which have just the most insipid awful art by the way). After seeing this I probably never will.
I have a feeling that in a few years people won't care about this movie anymore. I feel like people are being blinded by the video game references and the idea that this movie is about them, that this movie gets them. I can't really think of a movie about the hipster crowd of our generation that really 'gets' them. I don't think it appeals to hipster sensibilities except in the most shallow of ways.
I just don't get this movie. I don't get the appeal. Can anyone explain this thing to me?
Also, not only that, but as a musician, the fucking music was awful. ABSOLUTELY AWFUL. First off, what self respecting bassist primarily uses a pick? Second, the "Bass battle" was garbage. Name me a serious bassist (I.E. not terrible) that uses a mustang bass?
You simultaneously missed the point of a movie you liked and one you hated, good job.Mortrialus said:
The exes aren't literally there, not every movie should be taken by face value.. try thinking a little.
You watching this movie is like some other retard watching V for Vendetta for the explosions.
First, No More Heroes isn't a movie. Second, I didn't miss anything. No More Heroes is a deconstruction of the usual video game excuse plots. The contrast between the ranked matches and the intermissions between help highlight the crazy, exciting nature of the ranked matches, and the complacent normalcy of Travis's day to day life. Both the player and Travis are simply trudging through the missions and jobs, just waiting for the next ranked match to spice up the gameplay. In the end, it turned around into a striking statement about emotional escapism through video games. There is nothing like that in Scott Pilgrim. The exes amount to nothing in this movie. They're just a gimmick, not a metaphor.s0beit said:
You strike me as a geeky, video game hipster whose blinded by "OMG VIDEO GAME REFERNCES YAY THIS MOVIE GETS ME" to see just how much of an empty, shallow piece of shit this movie really is.
UGH Spoilers in this review galore!!! I love you, Bob (even though I disagree with you more than I feel like I should because you're so knowledgeable about these things), but please, warn us about this stuff next time, I've appreciated it in your "Book of Eli" review among others but there really should have been one in here too.
Overall, great review, I agree mostly and I LOVE THIS DAMN MOVIE. Nice reference at the end too, Bob.
Overall, great review, I agree mostly and I LOVE THIS DAMN MOVIE. Nice reference at the end too, Bob.
You keep throwing the word hipster around in a situation where it doesn't apply, but whatever...Mortrialus said:
It strikes me as odd you would compare Scott Pilgrim to FLCL, since that is a spot-on comparison, while simultaneously failing to understand the metaphors of the film. Both FLCL and Scott Pilgrim are highly allegorical and operate on the same metaphorical framework of a crazy, insane world of adulthood where emotional problems manifest as life threatening realities contrasted with a calm, safe world of childhood without danger or discomfort.
Did you seriously make that comparison without realizing that neither story should be literally interpreted?
You seem to have failed to understand the film on a very basic level and are just plain wrong.
Hipster:omegawyrm said:
"A subculture of men and women typically in their 20's and 30's that value independent thinking, counter-culture, progressive politics, an appreciation of art and indie-rock, creativity, intelligence, and witty banter."
In other words, the self important douche bag pieces of shit that populate every aspect of this movie. Sounds like I'm using it correctly to me.
At the same time, its an asshole move of you to cry "WAH WAH WAH! YOU DIDN'T GET IT YOU'RE DUMB" just because I think the movie is a shallow piece of shit and falls flat on its face when trying to make a point because of its own incompetence as a film.
I didn't fail to understand anything. There is just so little to analyze here. The evil exes are supposedly a metaphor for dealing with Ramona's emotional baggage. Yet there is almost no real development between either Ramona or Scott as he deals with this. Scott changes a little before his "fight" with Gideon. He starts acting like an Asshole to Ramona for dumping all of this extra baggage on him. Really, the only change is an arbitrary one at the end of the film where he spontaneously realizes somehow that he's been a complete dick to his friends in a way that is completely out of left field and unbelievable. And while he does make better choices like telling the truth to knives and Ramona, there is still no actual change. Its done so unbelievably with no real change in Scott that it was literally no different than if he just said "Wow I've been a dick! Imma stop now". You say that there is a deeper, well done meaning and character development behind this film, but aside from the ass pull at the end of the film, I've yet to see you or anyone else actually describe said depth and character development.
Naota from FLCL grew as a person well before the final battle with Haruko. It was clear he was changing by the third and especially fourth episode when he finally made himself start facing his problems head on, when he swung the bat.
I just had the most bizarre experience at the movies ever. I would likely have ignored this movie, as I do most movies, but after your favorable review and a friend showing interest, I found myself at the ticket counter.MovieBob said:
Scott Pilgrim has wonderful cinematography. Shot composition is wonderful and apparently they had that tripod in the budget michael bay can't seem to afford. Fight coreography was great especially considering they were working with some pretty basic fighting techniques. Nothing that will make Jackey Chan nervous but on par with Transporter 1. Mostly creative fights and wins and a few genuine laugh out loud moments.
What was odd was how clinical my enjoyment was of the movie. Sure everything was well done but I constantly found myself asking, who cares what happens? I saw no compelling reason to care about what was happening. Scott was a douche, Ramona was a douche, do I care if they get together? The combination of 85-95 geek culture mixed with 95-2010 scene kid culture clashed so hard in my head. I feal like this is supposed to be some generations "The Goonies" but cannot for the life of me figure out who.
If nothing else it served as an interesting experiment. Am I predisposed to hate a movie where I find no likable "avatar" to bind my interest to. The answer is no... but I do like movies better when I have somone to root for. In the goonies I would have had my heart broken had they not saved thier houses. But scott pilgrim could have gotten hit by a bus in the first 10 minutes and I wouldn't have batted an eye. The same goes for Ramona. For all the sympathy that "lovable loser" was supposed to bring to Scott... he's in a up and coming band, seems to be a hit with the ladies, can kick peoples asses pretty hard, and even outsmarts some of his opponents... the lovable underdog if you ask me was Young Neil, but he barely got any screen time/lines(what was there ruled).
If I had to say something bad about the movie I think it's kind of a poser. For all of it's geek core trappings this is mostly a movie about kids that would slot nicely into the myspace crowd. It's still a good movie about the triumph of some people I would be just as happy to see gunned down by Ed-209.
As for the movies lukewarm reception, I think it has itself to blame for that, until your review I had no clue what the movie was about, niether did my cashier at work, she was going to see it cause she's so in love with Michael Cera. That said your review almost made me skip the movie for a reason you've already put good words to. Do I really care if douchebag peter parker gets to bag the most unlikable ***** in the movie?
Jesus christ that new Shyamalan preview... jesus christ. I think I almost had as much fun heckling that trailer, as I did heckling the entirety of Freddy vs Jason. I actually decided to retitle the movie, but won't do it here to ruin the fun for those who might see it.Burgertime said:Go see this movie! See it with a bunch of friends, and shout out "What a twist!" at the new M.Night movie.