Escape to the Movies: The Amazing Spider-Man 2 - The Movie That Broke MovieBob

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Ouch, that's bad. That's reaally bad. There should be some kind of award for crushing someone's soul. ...followed by a trip to the guillotine.
 

Scarim Coral

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Wow it so bad that it broke you? Well I guess this means Man of Steel is still beter than Amazing Spider-man!
 

Parasondox

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Wow and Ouch! Seriously that was just heart breaking. A guy who is a massive uber fan of Spider-man through the good times and bad just gave up.

See this is what I am scared of when it comes to the upcoming X-Men: Days of Future Past. I love X-Men. Movies, comics and the memorable and always loved cartoons. Yes X3 and Origins just went off course to the point of ending up on a ditch but I really hope and I mean REALLY REALLY hope Days of Future Past does not suck. Cause from the trailers and many characters, the movie should be split into two. I even read the comic events of Days of Future and I will accept and know that the movie will be different to the source material. I just don't want it to end up as a mess that will leave me sad with a bad taste in my mouth. Fox you have the floor now, show us what you can do and don't pull a Sony.
 

Uriel_Hayabusa

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Does this mean that we'll be seeing out-of-left-field potshots at this movie in Moviebob videos for the foreseeable future?
 

ZZoMBiE13

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walsfeo said:
IamLEAM1983 said:
Good God... I'm so sorry, Bob.

This is what happens when a studio holds onto an intellectual property not because it has some sort of vision for it, but because it sees it as a cash cow. We'll be stuck looking at a series of soulless sequels, just so Sony can squeeze every last cent they possibly can out of Peter Parker.
These movies are so bad they are doing actual brand damage. You'd think there would be a way to stop this tragedy, I don't like the "hey lets sue someone" mentality, but could threat of a lawsuit put enough pressure on Sony to make them rethink their bad behavior? Probably not.

Alternate solution: Could Marvel studios make the movie and have Sony distribute them or something?

Somebody needs a beating.
Sony as a company is pretty much in ruin these days. With the exception of the Playstation brand, which is strong as ever, pretty much every other division of Sony is in the red.

I know this is going to sound mean spirited, but I honestly wish their restructuring efforts failed so Disney could just swoop in and either buy back the movie rights to Spider-Man or just outright buy up Sony Pictures.

I don't even care about "Spidey needs to be an Avenger" or any of that stuff either. I'd just like them to let Spider-Man take a break from the cinema for a while. Like the post Batman & Robin Warner let Bats take a few years off to lick his wounds before coming back with Nolan and Bale and Begins.
 

MarsProbe

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Geez, over-reacting much? Yeh, this film is nowhere near as bad as Bob is making out to be, I'd say it's pretty good in fact. Yeh, I'm no big Spidey comic book fan, but really, screw those guys.

It's definitely not perfect though - especially as some of that cheesy "Yay! It's Spidey!" stuff that I feel didn't do the Raimi trilogy any favours has started to crop up in this film. Oh, and the Rhino was pretty laughable from what we saw of it - especially when it flipped open to reveal Giamatti inside - not very convincing.

So I'd say on this occasion, don't listen to old misery guts here and give the film a shot.

The Days of Future Past insert halfway through the credits was just as random as I thought it would be. The actually picture quality seemed rather low (though that may have been an issue at the cinema I was at and the footage seemed to be rather haphazardly edited. Smacked of a rush job, in other words.
 

Shoggoth2588

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I didn't really have a reason to see this before anyhow...still don't have a reason to see it. I feel bad for you Bob and I kind of feel bad for Spider-Man fans in general. It almost seemed like One More Day was the final straw for a lot of people but it looks like Sony is trying to out-do that story...

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maybe that's Sony's end-game?
 
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Well, at least that's settled whether or not to bother with this film. I'm not sure how they could manage to ever get something as good as Spiderman 2 was.

BTW, did Moviebob ever make a top ten superhero films video? Not the recent Marvel Cinematic Universe list, but all superhero films?
 

demented

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This movie was not horrible. It was mess in some places, poor pacing, story arcs that went nowhere and two actors in their late twenties as unconvincing teenagers, but it was not horrible. I especially enjoyed Electro. I thought Jamie Foxx did quite well in the role. The CGI, music and over-acting went well together.

The Amazing Spider-Man 2 is as shallow as shallow entertainment gets, it was a probably a waste of two hours of my life (but the same can be said for many many movies) but again, not horrible.
 

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I kinda figured that this one was gonna be bad. I didn't like the first one because it didn't even have the balls to take risks like Spider-Man 3. Say what you want about Spider-Man 3, but at least I remember it while everything in TASM 1 has melded together into an incomprehensible blur.
 

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Kumagawa Misogi said:
IamLEAM1983 said:
Good God... I'm so sorry, Bob.

This is what happens when a studio holds onto an intellectual property not because it has some sort of vision for it, but because it sees it as a cash cow. We'll be stuck looking at a series of soulless sequels, just so Sony can squeeze every last cent they possibly can out of Peter Parker.

At this point, I'd almost *want* the rights to return to Marvel Studios and for that fanboyish setup to actually take place. Anything would be better than Sony Pictures going "Yeah, so we gotta keep the rights to Spidey because money... So yeah. Have a half-assed movie."

Or, shit - someone convince Sam Raimi to reboot those reboots. Anything, literally *anything* would be better than this.

You mean the same as Disney see there Marvel films? because look how quick the Hulk film trilogy was dropped once 'The Incredible Hulk' film flopped.
There's a difference between dropping something because it isn't financially viable to produce (keep in mind they're still expecting a massive profit) and making a film (or series of films) to retain character rights, while riding the superhero boom that Marvel set off.

There's also the matter of quality. While Marvel has an overarching, long term plan for their cinematic universe (that was only a "what if" off in the distance when The Incredible Hulk released), Sony is planning Spiderman sequels left and right without so much as having a general story direction, seemingly to take the money and run before the superhero movie bubble (that they're holding a needle to) bursts. Marvel has hired directors who seem to have actual passion for what they're doing, and has taken some pretty serious creative risks along the way.

I'm no Marvel fanboy (they've made some missteps along the way, from the way Iron Man 3 wrapped up to the fact that Thor 2 accomplished almost nothing in terms of in-universe continuity), but there's actually a big difference between Marvel's long-term "build it and they will come" approach to a money machine, and Sony's haphazard imitation carried out only because Marvel is raking it in.
 

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I thought Amazing Spider-Man did a lot of things right, and it was a very substantial improvement over the Raimi films. I like Garfield as Peter and love Stone as Gwen. I actually got fairly upset at MovieBob for not giving ASM the chance it deserved because of all the baggage he brought to it.

But he's right about this one. 100% correct. After I saw it, I just felt empty and used. Spidey is that one character for me that I grew up loving more than any other, and this movie did make me feel fatigued with him and frustrated with the business machinations that have resulted in the movie being made.

Oh, and the Iron Man 2 comparison is very apt. A bunch of completely unconnected stuff that doesn't really work together. Even down to the exact same scene of having a child dressed as the hero stand up to the villain until the hero steps in to save him. Having rewatched IM2 recently (the first time I did after seeing Avengers and IM3), I can say it holds up a bit better, but still very weak.
 

LysanderNemoinis

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You know, the way Bob feels about these movies is exactly how I feel about the so-called Resident Evil movies. While I almost always disagree with Bob and in the past have enjoyed his suffering at crappy movies, this is one time where he and I are brothers in arms...even if he has mocked the thing I love just as much as he loves Spider-Man.
 

Swarmcrow

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meh..is not even near half as bad as bob makes it sound , its just gonna be a popcorn film series
 

caballitomalo

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Sorry to hear that Bob. Coincidentally thats the exact feeling I got out of Spider Man 3... I didn't bother with too many movies after I saw that "PS3 didn't sell, quick call those movie people and get cracking" vomit of a film.