Escape to the Movies: The Expendables

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Zing

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dathwampeer said:
I was kinda hoping it's cast would up the trashyness level to awesome. I mean did you go into this movie expecting a plot?

I'm disturbed to hear about it's lack of good violence though. There really is no redemption for it if that's true.

Although I really would quite like to see Statham vs Li for real. I imagine that would be pretty epic... For 5 minutes.
It's not, he's just plain lying honestly. In the first 5 minutes or so a guys top half is severed from his body and torpedoed to the other side of the room, in quite a few fight scenes characters unashamedly crack limbs into weird, painful looking positions(including a scene where Jet Li breaks a mans neck with an axe kick)..

That's just the surface of it really, I don't really want to ruin more than that.
 

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Just Craig said:
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Just Craig said:
It's a condescending film that sells itself solely by going "Hey look, we've got 'em all! All the stars of the classic action films! That's all you dumb bastards care about anyway! Now buy a ticket!"
How is it condescending if people are genuinely enjoying it and buying tickets? I hate to bring up one of my least favorite movies but if the Expendables is condescending, so is Avatar, the movie that was all about the "pretty pictures".
You'd be surprised at how much condescention flies right over people's heads in real life conversation, nevermind marketing.
And I would agree that Avatar was about pretty pictures. C'mon, look at just the design of the alien race as opposed to, say, District 9. The blue kitten people were specifically designed to be appealing and promote symapthy for them.
Oh yeah, and what about the whole 3-D thing...?
But, the matter is, I didn't hate Avatar because it was about pretty pictures. I like pretty pictures. I like the Expendables.
But Avatar was the more condescending of the two because it had obvious-as-hell crystal clear messages that it hammered into the skulls of the audiences.
I don't remember Bob complaining about that. Maybe it's because Avatar didn't come out in the same time frame as District 9, a movie that would've suffered sales if it were next to Avatar.
Rigs83 said:
Here is a better review.
http://thatguywiththeglasses.com/videolinks/teamt/fbv/bmbe/8526-equilibrium
Another Bad Movie Beatdown fan? That's something new. Haven't seen anyone else beside me who watches it.
 

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Off-Topic & final thought for now.
If any movie should be considered "This Years District 9" so far that would have to go to Daybreakers.
What? Daybreakers came out in the same year as District 9. And it was an awful movie.
Daybreakers came out on January 8th, 2010 & wasn't as mindless as Splice.
 

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That The Expendables made more in its first weekend than Scott Pilgrim probably will in its entire run does serve to make one lose a fair amount of faith in humanity.
 

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He's not insulting the people who like the movie. He's ripping on it because the director (Stallone) knew that and made it that way to cash in on people's love for that kind of stuff. It's like the action genre version of "Funny People" or "Grown Ups" in that anyone involved sort of admits their careers are over.
 

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Still would rather watch this than another generic, shy, monotone performance by Michael Cera. At some point he's gonna wake up and realize he's in his 20s and can't play socially awkward teenage roles.
 

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*snore*

Scott Pilgrim is about as important as a song by 3OH!3. It's a bunch of trendy incompetent bullshit.

Yeah, I said it.
 

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Hubilub said:
What the fuck are you talking about?

You do realize that the majority of the people that like 80s action films are nerds?

Of course not. You are in that mindset that nerds only like sci-fi and obscurity, and anything that doesn't feature video game references or pseudo-science talk isn't meant for us.
Prove it. Last time I checked, the majority of nerds like sci-fi.

At least we have Inception as a hallmark: but then again, it's from a well-known director who's cut his teeth in action. Something as obscure as Pilgrim is bound to go on the wayside.
 

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Rigs83 said:
Pipotchi said:
Hubilub said:
I could barely finish watching this review. Took a lot of strength.

I can't believe Bob this week. We are obedient sheep because we go see one of the biggest collaboration films this decade instead of watching a film that was barely advertised in many places? We are the worst kind of people on earth because we like the premise that a movie will be an homage to 80s action films?

He dropped the ball on this review. Insulting a film is one thing, insulting someone for liking it is another, but insulting people for thinking the premise sounds like a fun idea?. That's a new low. I won't even go into how much I disagree with you on the quality of the film.

For someone who tries to hinder people from being elitist nerds, you are one of the biggest elitist nerds I've seen in quite a while.
Also this,

Also Movie Bob keeps holding up Equilibrium when talking about better action movies, that movie was utter twaddle pure over stylised matrix clone waffle. Even metacritic has it lower than the Expendables
Here is a better review.
http://thatguywiththeglasses.com/videolinks/teamt/fbv/bmbe/8526-equilibrium
It was not as a great film that those with rose tinted glasses claim it to be. The gunkata was awful and completely contrary to what real kata is about. The philosophical elements were pretty base level and derivitive. The visual style wasn't much better. It was enjoyable and I've seen it thrice, and the last time was pretty eye opening.
 

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I must say, I'm surprised.
I was gonna go watch this movie, and as much as I don't like the idea of obeying a review, I think I might go for "Despicable Me" instead, which was my other option anyway. I mean, I don't think I've heard Movie Bob be so angry. It's that bad huh?
Well, I've agreed with most of your opinions thus far, so I guess I'll trust you on this one Bob.
 

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IronStorm9 said:
He's not insulting the people who like the movie.
Yes he is! Actually, it's worse. He's insulting people who like the movie's premise.

And even then, how the hell does saying that Stallone is cashing in on this film makes sense? Stallone is one of the most respectable directors out there, he's the last person to do a movie simply for a cash-in
 

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I thought this movie was pretty entertaining to be honest, so I guess I outright disagree with Moviebob here. Typically I wind up agreeing with him on most points, and being a negative sort focus on what I disagree with in my responses.

I'll also be honest in saying that while Keanu Reeves was a good choice for "The Matrix" where half the point was that he wasn't supposed to look like a guy that could do all that stuff (ie he's cheating by manipulating The Matrix...). I think using the classic type of tough guy for action movies is fine, though I do believe that time needs to be spent on choreography and most of them should at least take the time to get some acting lessons if they plan to do these kinds of movies regularly.

I understand Moviebob's point, but truthfully it seems to me that what he's argueing for is a return to the old days of "pretty boy" actors playing tough guys in movies, like Kirk Douglas and others back then. The guys who were replaced by the real world "He-men" before it seems things are going back to the way they were with better film making tech.

Ideally I think we need a hybrid, of he-men who can act for this kind of thing. So far there haven't been more of them, but I think that guys like Stallone or Schwarzneggar putting in the time to get better at all aspects fo what they did (even if one dimensional in some respects) is what made them superstars, and a cut above some of their rivals who relied almost entirely on their non-acting resume to sell their movies.
 

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Just Craig said:
SamStar42 said:
Look, Bob. I've defended you more than I need have, you're probably one of my favourite movie critics but please, for the love of God, accept that not every movie has to be this artistic piece, with amazing acting, original set pieces and have an important message behind them. Some movies are just meant to be enjoyable to sit through.
He's not afraid to like a movie that's only dumb fun, have you seen all his older movie reviews? Hell, the G.I. Joe one almost had me stop watching these because I couldn't believe he would like it, even if for the 'dumb fun' factor.
I think what gets him and me and a lot of people who like watching movies (preferably good movies) about the Expendables is that it's not just dumb fun. It's so horrifyingly shallow and unashamedly calculated. It's a condescending film that sells itself solely by going "Hey look, we've got 'em all! All the stars of the classic action films! That's all you dumb bastards care about anyway! Now buy a ticket!" I feel almost offended the thing was made, and as far as it being a box office hit...
Well, I haven't expected much from people for a long time now anyway...
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The truth
 

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SamStar42 said:
Look, Bob. I've defended you more than I need have, you're probably one of my favourite movie critics but please, for the love of God, accept that not every movie has to be this artistic piece, with amazing acting, original set pieces and have an important message behind them. Some movies are just meant to be enjoyable to sit through. Salt was this and you appeared to like that even if there were two reasons attached to Jolie that probably helped your opinion along the way.

And please, stop stating that everyone who likes a movie you don't is worthless. Transformers, Book of Eli, and now Expendables - some people just like to sit through a movie that's brainless. Whilst they're not that good, stating that everyone who likes them is pretty much wrong is just arrogant and pretentious.

Not everyone who likes bad action movies is this douchebag frat boy, who can't tell the difference between an etch-a-sketch and a Da Vinci. Just accept that occasionally people don't see things the way you do, because you're starting to become insufferable.
I mostly agree with this guy. You're waaaaaay to biased with movies like this. There's nothing wrong with a brainless action film, even with no gore, and they have their points. To say that this is some horrible blemish on filmmaking is nothing but, for lack of a better term, bigotry towards people that legitimately enjoy this stuff for the sake of a fun ride.

Not to mention that this review was more filled with "it's boring, it sucks, fuck this movie" than actual critiques like with The Book of Eli. I trusted your review on that because you gave points other than "blah blah blah it wasn't what I wanted". I still kind of want to see this movie, simply because I don't trust your reviews when they're like this. You're the same way with Halo. Hate for either no legitimate reasons or, in Halo's case, lack of knowledge. And don't act like you "know enough about it", because trust me, from the way you've talked about it, you don't, so don't even try.

When you review a movie you love, you're very detailed on EXACTLY what's good and bad about it. That's why, although I disliked the movie, I saw every point you made about Scott Pilgrim. It just wasn't my type of film. But I just blow off every incredibly negative review you make like this as pointless, mindless nerd rage.

Please, make your negative reviews as well detailed as your positive ones, and stop insulting those that like movies you don't. They aren't bad people. They just have different tastes.

TL;DR, please stop being an asshole towards those that think differently from you and give better, more detailed negative reviews that involve more reasons than "it's boring and sucks".
 

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I am one of the vocal minority who would completely disagree with this review. I saw the movie and fucking well liked it.
 

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Zephyr892 said:
This review for some reason really made me want to hear MovieBob do a game review... and Yahtzee do a movie review...
MovieBob does do game reviews. Sorta.

http://gameoverthinker.blogspot.com/