Escape to the Movies: The Kings Speech
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To be fair. Films like King's Speech are also made to make British people a bit more comfortable with their increasing insignificance in the modern world by escaping back to a time when we ruled the world & stood alone against the evils of Hitler, who we knew all along was a nasty man but had to hold the battlements until the rest of the world caught on.
We also loooove films showing our monarchy as being "just like us," (the Lady Di effect) so combining the two is a no brainer. Doesn't hurt that Americans seem to lap that sh't up too for some reason.
We also loooove films showing our monarchy as being "just like us," (the Lady Di effect) so combining the two is a no brainer. Doesn't hurt that Americans seem to lap that sh't up too for some reason.
This video was quite weird, because I can not say at any point in that video, bar the ending, that you were wrong, however, despite all this, The King Speech is still, in my own opinion, a very, very good film, 4 our of 5 stars. And I know a lot of other people who think it's a very good film too. (Friend told me that her audience applaued at the end, and this is Britain, we don't do that stuff much, thought this audience was very old apparently)
If this film were to win the Oscars, I'd be very happy, but I would be for most, this year has provided a lot of good films to become Oscar nominated (except Winter Bone)
Also, British actors rock, particularly Ramona Marquez.
If this film were to win the Oscars, I'd be very happy, but I would be for most, this year has provided a lot of good films to become Oscar nominated (except Winter Bone)
Also, British actors rock, particularly Ramona Marquez.
The Kings Speech was seriously an awesome movie, it managed to be interesting and enjoyable without resorting to action and sex scenes. I think Bob's just annoyed because it wasn't some sci-fi or other 'geek culture' film that would justify his personal tastes.
I also don't get why he thinks 'based on a true story' is something bad in the slightest. This DID actually happen, it's a classic story of the great British underdog, something which seriously underpins British culture and makes for a fantastic film.
I also don't get why he thinks 'based on a true story' is something bad in the slightest. This DID actually happen, it's a classic story of the great British underdog, something which seriously underpins British culture and makes for a fantastic film.
Then what would you consider Golden Globe bait since they went with a very different film and in other categories?
Quite honestly I've been having a large number of disagreements with MovieBob as of recently. His snide comment on how Christians affirm homosexuality as a sin certainly hit home(it being a sin and making homosexuality some kind of special sin are two different things). This one is what finally pushed me to write something. Is the King's Speech oscar bait? probably. Is the plot and general framing of the story anything we haven't seen? no. Is this all that makes a good movie? heck no. I actually consider "The King's Speech" to be one of the best movies I've ever seen because the acting is the best I've seen in a long time. At least one of the scenes that Bob was assaulting for it's cliche "Oscar Bait" nature was also the best examples of acting I've ever seen. Maybe Bob is a bit bitter that real gems of plot that have the ability to take us to different worlds don't get Oscars as much as they should, but that doesn't mean a film that takes us so deep into personal emotion through the power of great performances doesn't deserve respect for being what it is. Remember Bob, there is a reason why Magneto was wrong: There are more things that are unique and beautiful in this world than eye beams(even if eye beams are freakin' awesome).
Rush is Australian in that movie, not English.
I prefered the King's Speech to the Social Network, mostly because I oddly found the main character as someone I could relate to/like more. In the Social Network, Mark is a slightly sociopathic higher functioning autistic, and the way he treated some of the people around him made him seem petty and unlikable. Now, in the King Speech, the same thing occurs, but rather it's a defensive tactic used by the prince in order to combat social anxiety about his speech problem. Also, I actually found people talking in front of computer screens, *gasp* dull.It's good to see royality in the light of flawed individuals with problems (I thought one of the best scenes in the movie was when the Queen basically tries to shake her very upset son off after their father died). Not to mention how amazingly accurate it is for a period piece, usually when I watch movies based in the 1920s to the 1940s I can point out historical inaccuracies on the set, but I really couldn't in this movie, they did an outstanding job. Excellent film, this isn't so much Oscar bait as it deserves one.
I prefered the King's Speech to the Social Network, mostly because I oddly found the main character as someone I could relate to/like more. In the Social Network, Mark is a slightly sociopathic higher functioning autistic, and the way he treated some of the people around him made him seem petty and unlikable. Now, in the King Speech, the same thing occurs, but rather it's a defensive tactic used by the prince in order to combat social anxiety about his speech problem. Also, I actually found people talking in front of computer screens, *gasp* dull.It's good to see royality in the light of flawed individuals with problems (I thought one of the best scenes in the movie was when the Queen basically tries to shake her very upset son off after their father died). Not to mention how amazingly accurate it is for a period piece, usually when I watch movies based in the 1920s to the 1940s I can point out historical inaccuracies on the set, but I really couldn't in this movie, they did an outstanding job. Excellent film, this isn't so much Oscar bait as it deserves one.
I agree. I quite liked the Kings Speech. I think the Social Network is the better movie butthe King's Speech does appeal to us with the theme of manning up when duty calls. However the Oscars don't and could never ever truly work as anything that is art is impossible to give a definite score. My answer to the Oscars is simply use them as a reccomendation rather then any real qualification on a movie's worth.secretsantaone said:
I agree with you again on the geek taste account, some sci-fi films will have an interesting concept but the acting is never that stellar. Same with fantasy. So honestly I don't think you should win if you aren't a master of the human part.
That was pretty hilarious Bob. Pointing out the biases of the Oscars, while still finding a way to talk about the film as a fishing metaphor... Brilliant!
That makes the movie even more bait worthy, by making the lower class character colonial makes him even more appealing to the yanksSovvolf said:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BbvcPPaeQiQ
Oh quit whining Bob. I'm sorry The Social Network and Scott Pilgrim aren't likely to win Oscars, even though they were your favorites (and that obviously makes them the best movies EVAR). Scotty Pilgrim was... a bit shit. Even with the extra-special 1up and geek references. Sorry. Social Network, on the other hand, is a great film, and will be recognized for that. It's not as if facebook is some hideous Cthulhoid beast.
But you know what else was a great film? King's Speech. And just because I'm disagreeing with you doesn't mean I'm covered in wool and bleat like a sheep. Sometimes things are popular because they're good.
But you know what else was a great film? King's Speech. And just because I'm disagreeing with you doesn't mean I'm covered in wool and bleat like a sheep. Sometimes things are popular because they're good.
Whine, whine, whine, whine.
Massive over-generalized complaints about the film industry and culture without ever actually getting into movie itself. Did you even see it? I can't be sure with this one. Armond White couldn't have done it better himself.
Massive over-generalized complaints about the film industry and culture without ever actually getting into movie itself. Did you even see it? I can't be sure with this one. Armond White couldn't have done it better himself.
So, your putting down the guys opinion because it wasn't a geeky film? Have you not watched these film reviews? I'm pretty sure he's given high praise to many-a-films that aren't geeky or Sci-fi based. The reason he's annoyed is both at the Oscar system (which has been widely known for years as being screwed up) and at the fact that this movie is clear Oscar bait.secretsantaone said:
Also, please look up the word Ad Hominem to find out what was wrong with your last sentence.
Because films based on a true story are often... Only technically based on a true story. Like the film Hurricane is technically based on a true story... Even though most of it was made up or dramatised. They jazz things up to make it feel compelling and dramatic, they slap that on the front because its good for getting you an Oscar.secretsantaone said: