Escape to the Movies: X-Men: First Class

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Verlander

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Approving of incontinuity in franchise? You are no true geek! No matter how bad it is, you always stick to it, lest you get up Spiderman
 

Nenad

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Just seen it. It was awesome.

And how is X3's last scene not amazing (and the rest of the film(is also amazing))?
 

V TheSystem V

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This was the third film I went to see in 3 weeks (Pirates 4 and Hangover 2 were the other 2 films I saw. Pirates 4 was meh, thank GOD my girlfriend was a good distraction from the film. Hangover 2 was exactly the same as the first one).

My God is this movie amazing.
 

Srdjan Tanaskovic

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Watched it

and I do not see how it removes X-men 3 and Wolverine Origins for the time line


but I do see how it open holes with the first two movies
 

Mkvenner

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Saw the movie last week. It was fantastic!
One of the best I've seen all year.

Saw the movie last week. It was fantastic!
One of the best I've seen all year.

loled hard at wolverine cameo

Go watch if you you havent!
 

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I watched this near a poor pre-dominantly African American neighborhood in San Francisco. Two of the biggest laughs came from the when Shaw spoke his speech and just as he said "...or you can be enslaved" and the camera zooms in right on the sole black man. Also the part where Xavier accidentally outs Hank to his boss (no spoiler here, it's on the TV spots) and Hank replies "You didn't ask, I didn't tell."
 

Yojoo

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Seemed like a great movie, Bob says it was a great movie...

I haven't been this disappointed in a long, long time. I respect that a comic fan like Bob would like it, or indeed any superhero action fan, but there's basically nothing more to this film than chucking a bunch of super-powered folks in a box and seeing which ones come out alive.

Best X-men movie? Likely. But as good as the Dark Knight? DK would have worked if you took out the costumes and the names and made it a crime drama. This would have fallen flat if it wasn't the X-men. It may be quite enjoyable for some, most even, but at my most objective I can't put it anywhere near Dark Knight quality.
 

TheAmazingHobo

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Good movie. Really good.
Apart from some minor hiccups (such as some actors being given nothing interesting to say or do and some lines being too damn silly even for such a movie), pretty much awesome from start to finish.
First movie in a long time that made me hope for a sequel.

pwnzerstick said:
What language are the posters in at 4:39?
You will find them to be the strange and ancient tongue of the lands of Germany and France, respectively.
 

Motakikurushi

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Just got back from seeing it, and it's utterly brilliant. Great characters, fantastic story, engaging, vibrant, well paced, one of the best movies of 2011 so far. This one will shine in a year of somewhat-average summer releases indefinitely. Awesome film.
 

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Mister Linton said:
In movies it is easier to establish verisimilitude when you only give the audience a single unbelievable conceit to accept. That is why ancillary and main characters are now mutants instead of aliens or wizards or gods. Stop bitching about it and just accept it. Stan Lee actually was quite brilliant introducing the idea of mutation in the original comics because it allowed a variety of powers with only one origin. Why comic fans feel that needs to be screwed up with a bunch of silly nonsense is beyond me.
Stan Lee knew nothing about genetics. He just got tired of long ass origin stories and just said heck it they were born with it.
 

JoelChenFA

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This isn't comic books Bob Continuity doesn't mean shit.
Because we all know Comic books are really good when it comes to continuity and never have to resort to retcons and alternative universes and reincarnation.
 

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i don't understand what people see in this film. Ok, it has its enjoyable moments like James McAvoy's and Michael Fassbender's performance. I'm unsure if it was the acting or the directing, because every other character/actor in this film was cringe worthy. Other than that i'm unsure were everyone else is coming from.

It has a little bit of depth to it, though i can't help but feel everything thats said in this film has already been said by other movies....even other X men movies.

It feels like everyone else has been let in on a secret...but seriously i really don't see how anyone could think this was enjoyable.
 

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Saw it today. Loved it. A shame the small theatre in my town only offered it as a French dub (and if it's really "because kids can't read subtitles", as they say, then explain why the other languages weren't dubbed but subtitled? True that the showing right before mine was half kids though. Hopefully they could read.)
My boyfriend (who saw it in English, in the US, yesterday) told me there is a scene in French. Missed it, since everything in English was ALSO in French. Can't wait to get the DVD so I can watch it all in original languages.

A few thoughts, as they came during the movie (keep in mind I never read the comics. I was probably ignorant of things very obvious to other people):

HUGE SPOILERS ABOUT THE WHOLE THING

- At the beginning when Shaw wants Erik to move the coin and the angle changes and you see the room full of weapons, I thought (about Shaw) "oh, man, you're dead". Then he called Erik's mom, etc, I was SURE he was going to die, and it was going to be a massacre. Only time in the whole movie when I predicted something that happened in a different way.
- As soon as Hank appeared, I wanted to see him as Beast. Man, that was a long wait. But it was worth it. He was awesome.
- Hank, Erik, Azazel (presumably. As soon as I saw it I figured he must be Nightcrawler's father)... Raven goes around. I think it's awesome. She wasn't portrayed negatively in the movie as a slut or something, and I think it's really cool to have a female character portrayed as having several male interests without it being a bad things. I'm probably reading too much into it but I liked that.
- Hey, a black guy. There is only one. Well, I guess he joins the villains or dies.
- I wonder if there is supposed to be something between Charles and that CIA woman? I'm not sure why else she's staying around like that.
- OMG the helmet. Erik's going to kill Shaw and steal it. Awesome.
- Hey, Shaw thinks the same stuff as Magneto does. Wow, I guess we know who he got it from.
- Hehe Wolverine. Always classy.
- Older Mystique Cameo. Cool too.
- Man, there are a lot of half-naked women in this movie.
- I like Hank. I like him a lot. He's awesome.
- Felt bad for him when everyone was showing off their powers and his was "has monkey feet". I wanted to comfort him. I wanted to tell him "wait and see".
- Charles on the other hand... When he said he didn't want to shave his head because he cared about his hair, I wanted to say "er, bad news..." Thought it was too much when they made a SECOND reference to that at the end though. The first one was cool, the second one was too much.
- Charles is kind of a hypocrite isn't he? He's all about "the ends don't justify the means" and yet he manipulates people, erases their minds, takes control of their bodies... He's violating their minds rather than attacking them upfront like Erik does. In some ways, he's worse. And at the same time, acts like he's got the moral high ground.
- Oh wow, that's how he loses his legs!
- Glad they show the friendship is still there when they part ways. They have differing opinions but they still love and respect each other. Pretty cool. I wish they had been given more time for that friendship though.

Non-spoiler, general comments:

- The effects are really cool. Usually action scenes make me fall asleep because I can't follow anything. I could follow everything here, I was rooting for people, and I kept wondering how they'd reach such or such event I knew was coming. It was really nice.
- Very, very rare occurrence of a 2h+ movie during which I don't check the time or wish it wasn't so damn long.
- For all the dark parts in there, it was a pretty funny movie. Very emotionally engaging. My boyfriend thought it wasn't dark enough, I thought it was the perfect balance, as it helps us see both sides because it's on the edge, not clearly one way or the other.

I definitely recommend it. My favourite of the X-men movies, one of my favourite superhero movie. Definitely want to watch it again in its original version.
 

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It really was brilliant. Also, I loved Wolverine's cameo, as it was something of a "fuck you" tot the disaster that was Origins.
 

Rooster Cogburn

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Man, you way oversold this movie, MovieBob. It was good for an X-Men movie. It definitely wasn't brilliant or "must see". It wasn't as bad as Thor, but it suffered from some of the same problems. Too much going on and I don't care about any of it. I wish they had focused a lot more on the characters of Erik and Xavier. They could have set up a truly tragic conflict between two sympathetic would-be friends. Their falling out was too quick and too obvious. Foreshadowing is one thing, you don't need to put a big red neon "EVIL" sign over Erik's head the whole film. It was annoying from the start and left you feeling they never really were and never could have been friends anyway. And why is it taken for granted in this universe that mutants all belong to special teams who only fight each other at appointed times? Why didn't Kevin Bacon just kill all the mutants when he had the chance?

Oh, and there was only one interesting power we haven't seen before. But they killed that character off almost immediately.
 

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Frankfurter4444 said:
Two things:
1) X-Men Origins: Wolverine was nothing spectacular. X-Men 3 sucked. I know it came second; but Wolverine's movie, no matter how uninspiring it was, was not worse than X-Men 3. Go back and watch them both if you need a refresher.

2) The Dark Knight was one of the greatest films of all time. I'm sick of people lumping it in as the greatest comic book movie of all time. I'm sure this new X-Men movie is good, Bob (you've only ever been wrong about Daybreakers so far) but to compare it to The Dark Knight sort of undermines all that "respect" nerds keep on complaining their genre doesn't receive. If I go watch this movie and change my mind, I'll be sure and get back on here and recant; but if I don't, I really hope people start noticing the difference between a good genre film and a good overall film.
Nope, not recanting. It was a very, very, very good film. But not better than the first two (on the same level, yes, but not better) and certainly not better than The Dark Knight. Even so, I'm glad they made it. Hopefully they'll make more good X-Men movies.