Escapist News Now: Ellen Page Vs. Naughty Dog
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Somehow I think this hole thing could have been avoided by a change of hair colour or skin for that matter.
The question is "how cares?" Really if Page doesn't like it so what? Can you copyright your lifestyle/looks now?
See it as a compliment and move on, if this keeps happening in many other games we can come back to this discussion.
The question is "how cares?" Really if Page doesn't like it so what? Can you copyright your lifestyle/looks now?
See it as a compliment and move on, if this keeps happening in many other games we can come back to this discussion.
Ellen Page needs to get over herself. The diversity of the human race means that while most people will look completely different from one another, but on occasion, there will be people that look similar to you.
I know at least one person who resembles Ellen Page. Did she rip-off Ellen's look? Only if that person had time travel abilities, went to the future to see Miss. Page, then went back too the 90s.
I know at least one person who resembles Ellen Page. Did she rip-off Ellen's look? Only if that person had time travel abilities, went to the future to see Miss. Page, then went back too the 90s.
I get the arguments saying that Ellie just looks like "Girl we all know", I do, but... she's not really the first person to mention this, is she? People were saying that Ellie looked like Ellen Page from the moment we first saw her.
I imagine what bothers her more than what the character actually looks like is the fact that so many people *do* think it's her, which is fair enough given that she's actually doing a game right now.
I imagine what bothers her more than what the character actually looks like is the fact that so many people *do* think it's her, which is fair enough given that she's actually doing a game right now.
Yeah...... I heard she was in a game but did not know what one... I totally thought it was Last of Us until I started playing it and realized the voice was wrong. So yeah I think they did model the character after her. I do not think she freaked about it though just was weirded out that some people she did not know made a virtual version of her, without even talking to her.... Kinda creepy really.
Ellen Page is right in this case. Before I knew Beyond Two Souls was going to be "the game with Ellen Page", I thought The Last of Us was it. Ellie looks a lot like Ellen and acts like her.
I wouldn't like it either if someone would use my likeness for something without my approval.
I wouldn't like it either if someone would use my likeness for something without my approval.
Actually no, she can sue, but she probably wouldn't win.ObsidianJones said:
Creative works (including video games, both AAA and indy titles are protected under the first amendment [http://www.supremecourt.gov/opinions/10pdf/08-1448.pdf]).
If you bluntly take her image and use it to sell a product, yes you can be sued. However, Ellie is a fictional character in a fictional universe, used to tell a story. In addition to that, her features have since been changed enough to where it wouldn't hold water in court. There's a reason why Family Guy still exists and it's not necessarily because Fox has good lawyers.
That being said, it was a dismissive comment and she is being really cool about it, and I do believe people are giving this story more spotlight than it deserves.
Looking through The Art of The Last of Us and seeing the original concepts and designs Ellie went through I'm siding with Naughty Dog and saying it was just a coincidence. We're getting more and more realistic character models as time goes on. It's only natural that eventually they'll start looking like other people.
Just happened in this case to be a Hollywood actress.
Plus Page just made a passing comment, no where saying she was suing ND for this. Let's not make a mountain out of a mole hill because it was a slow news week.
Just happened in this case to be a Hollywood actress.
Plus Page just made a passing comment, no where saying she was suing ND for this. Let's not make a mountain out of a mole hill because it was a slow news week.
You're saying similarities and genuine likeness are the same thing. I'll agree that she looks a bit like EP, but nothing depicted by the character has anything to do with EP outside of some general physical similarities and (sort of) her name, both of which couldn't be claimed by Page as they're just that, similarities.lacktheknack said:
Sure her face is her meal ticket, and she's had more than enough compensation for it. Naughty Dog made a character that looks a bit like someone in the media, how extremely unlikely and improbable. As for your link, the hypothetical case would happen in California, where likeness rights are very defined and precise. Even if the case were heard, it doesn't take a genius to figure she wouldn't win.ObsidianJones said:
First of all, I can see how this is a problem for Paige (and more importantly her corporate handlers and lawyers probably) I kept getting Last of Us and David Cage's project mixed up because they both seem to be staring a mo-capped Ellen Paige. And having been under the mistaken impression for a while that Last of Us WAS the game Paige was voicing for.
As for the "problem" aspect recurring legal action between profession and college athletes versus sports games makers that are boldfacedly portraying them (with the same stats and background face and slightly different names) lays down a pretty strong precedent that Naughty Dogs has NOTHING to worry about.
As for the "problem" aspect recurring legal action between profession and college athletes versus sports games makers that are boldfacedly portraying them (with the same stats and background face and slightly different names) lays down a pretty strong precedent that Naughty Dogs has NOTHING to worry about.
"Waaah, someone fake looks sort of like me! I demand Recompense!" Fuck off.
OH, wow, I just realized she was the one from that fucking HORRIBLE movie, Juno. Wow. Now I'm glad that this Ellie isn't her. That's practically worth a buy on its own.
OH, wow, I just realized she was the one from that fucking HORRIBLE movie, Juno. Wow. Now I'm glad that this Ellie isn't her. That's practically worth a buy on its own.
Pfft. Ellen Paige is just sore that she backed the wrong horse.
Besides, how do you "rip-off" someone's likeness? A rip-off is a cheap copy or imitation, but I'd say Ellie's appearance is markedly more aesthetically pleasing than Ellen Paige. BURN.
Besides, how do you "rip-off" someone's likeness? A rip-off is a cheap copy or imitation, but I'd say Ellie's appearance is markedly more aesthetically pleasing than Ellen Paige. BURN.
OHMUHGAWD! THERE IS ONLY ONE ELLEN IN THE WORLD, AND THAT IS ELLEN PAGE! THIS ELLIE MUST BE HER, BECAUSE THE LAW OF QUANTUM ELLENMENT STATES THAT THERE CAN NOT EVER BE MORE THAN ONE!!! Wait, no, nobody at all ever thought this, not even you.lacktheknack said:
Also, you don't have a copyright on your own face. It's not something you made, just something that is you.
Did I ever imply this? Ever?Bluestorm83 said:
It's just bad form. It's like when Dreamworks released Madagascar before Disney released The Wild, even though The Wild was the original idea. It's irritating, and I can see why Ellen Page is irritated.
She's not trying to copyright her face (did she even IMPLY she wanted to sue? No). She just feels that The Last Of Us was capitalizing on her even though she's part of a different project. And, as I mentioned earlier, it totally worked, intent be damned.
No shit. I was watching an episode of Law & Order: Criminal Intent yesterday and I swear I saw Ellen Page on it. Turns out thanks to IMDB it wasn't her, so..Avaholic03 said: