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My brother has some kind of M## rifle--looks like something SWAT would use. Battery opperated.
We both have spring op. clear-plastic pistol. I know mine broke; The spring exploded out the back. My brother's has a rail on either side and on top. I put an ACOG scope on top and occacionaly put a grip on the side.
I have a full size Ak-47, the "wood" parts are just plastic though. It's also battery op.
I currently have my AK set up on a guitar stand with a wooden katana--so the two are crossed.
We both have spring op. clear-plastic pistol. I know mine broke; The spring exploded out the back. My brother's has a rail on either side and on top. I put an ACOG scope on top and occacionaly put a grip on the side.
I have a full size Ak-47, the "wood" parts are just plastic though. It's also battery op.
I currently have my AK set up on a guitar stand with a wooden katana--so the two are crossed.
My (current) Primary:
My Secondary:
Some Extra Crap I Own:
Echo 1 Stag-15 (basically a rebranded JG M4 with a full stock and some licensed trademarks)
'Tis nothing special. Just an ol' M4 with a full stock for housing large-type batteries. I plan to replace the handguard with a proper RIS system someday, though.
I also got it off of a guy on Craigslist for $75 along with the battery, charger, four mags, and a bag of bb's. Not a bad deal, I'd say.
'Tis nothing special. Just an ol' M4 with a full stock for housing large-type batteries. I plan to replace the handguard with a proper RIS system someday, though.
I also got it off of a guy on Craigslist for $75 along with the battery, charger, four mags, and a bag of bb's. Not a bad deal, I'd say.
My Secondary:
Tokyo Marui FN FiveseveN
Got this piece about a year ago. Spent over $200 for it, but it was well worth it no doubt.
Got this piece about a year ago. Spent over $200 for it, but it was well worth it no doubt.
Some Extra Crap I Own:
Well MP7A1
This gun I bought as a bone yard item from a local airsoft tech I met up with once. It was sitting around in his workshop and he had no interest in doing anything to it, so I bought it off of him for $45. It's missing the sights, the stock, and the charger. I planned on buying all the missing parts, fixing it up, and using it as a cold-weather secondary or as a primary for CQB...
... turns out only one website offers replacement parts for these, though, and buying everything I need would cost about as much as buying a new one... oh well.
This gun I bought as a bone yard item from a local airsoft tech I met up with once. It was sitting around in his workshop and he had no interest in doing anything to it, so I bought it off of him for $45. It's missing the sights, the stock, and the charger. I planned on buying all the missing parts, fixing it up, and using it as a cold-weather secondary or as a primary for CQB...
... turns out only one website offers replacement parts for these, though, and buying everything I need would cost about as much as buying a new one... oh well.
Cybergun Famas G2
Just a cheap spring Famas I got from a surplus store for $20. Nothing special, 'cept I used white medical tape to make it look like the white tape-camo'd Famas you can find in MW2's single player.
Rather useless for actual skirmishes, but as something to muck about with or use as a prop? Damn fun to use.
Just a cheap spring Famas I got from a surplus store for $20. Nothing special, 'cept I used white medical tape to make it look like the white tape-camo'd Famas you can find in MW2's single player.
Rather useless for actual skirmishes, but as something to muck about with or use as a prop? Damn fun to use.
UHC 'Tomb Raider Pistol' (technically a USP Match .40) and a Umarex Walther P99
More cheap springers, nothing more and nothing less. The USP Match I actually broke quite a few years ago but managed to recently fix it, whereas the P99 works fine... but the magazine is broken and won't feed properly.
They're both pretty useless like the Famas for actual skirmishing and such, but they still make good props or things to just mess around with...
More cheap springers, nothing more and nothing less. The USP Match I actually broke quite a few years ago but managed to recently fix it, whereas the P99 works fine... but the magazine is broken and won't feed properly.
They're both pretty useless like the Famas for actual skirmishing and such, but they still make good props or things to just mess around with...
This is the same model as mine:
Taurus PT92
It's one of the old perfect imitation ones before all that orange tip regulations came into play, looks totally realistic.
It's half a joule, manual, and it's not got any hop-up or anything on it, so it's really underpowered compared to more modern ones.
Used to run around my friends gardens having mini battles with them, now we just go paintballing, much more organised and larger scale, although the backyard matches were a ridiculous amount of fun.
Taurus PT92
It's half a joule, manual, and it's not got any hop-up or anything on it, so it's really underpowered compared to more modern ones.
Used to run around my friends gardens having mini battles with them, now we just go paintballing, much more organised and larger scale, although the backyard matches were a ridiculous amount of fun.
I am more of a Paintball player myself and I have a Tiberius Ranger 9.1 and I am hoping to pick up a long sniper barrel for it sometime soon. I also have it set up to work both magazine based and hopper based so I can use two different types of balls to play magazine for good long range shots and hopper for standard ammo I can go through quick.
More of a paintball guy myself. What's the drive behind airsoft? Is it that they are firearm analogs? That has never held any appeal for me as all my paintball stuff looks like paintball equipment. Shiny, colored ect. I hear it is significantly cheaper than paintball. A lot of people I know have left paintball and moved to airsoft for monetary reasons.
Here's a bit of a spoiler. Longer barrels do not have any measurable affect on accuracy of a paintball. @ 300fps an 8'' barrel is sufficient to accelerate the ball. The quality of the paintball, the consistency of both the marker and propellent source (regulation) contribute to accuracy. Barrel length is a matter of ergonomics and aesthetics.
Here's a bit of a spoiler. Longer barrels do not have any measurable affect on accuracy of a paintball. @ 300fps an 8'' barrel is sufficient to accelerate the ball. The quality of the paintball, the consistency of both the marker and propellent source (regulation) contribute to accuracy. Barrel length is a matter of ergonomics and aesthetics.
That, and airsoft is usually more about tactics and simulating actual combat situations with replica guns and equipment (thus, the existence of the mil-sim sub-community of airsoft as a whole). Paintball, in my experience, is a lot more basic and has less emphasis on the tactical and simulation aspect that airsoft usually involves.TorqueConverter said:
Paintball also seems more geared for closer-quarters combat, since the range on a paintball gun is more limited from what I've experienced. Airsoft, on the other hand, is a bit more varied in the kind of ranges you can end up engaging someone at. You can pick people off from a distance with a well-tuned sniper rifle, or you could pack a sub machine gun or just whip out your pistol and take on people at short range. There's also a much larger variety of different mechanisms involved, different types of guns and different ways the guns function and such, whereas pretty much all paintball guns are powered by CO2 and function in nearly an identical manner.
Now, don't get me wrong, I'm not saying "Airsoft >>> Paintball". I've played both, and I enjoy both. I'm just pointing out the little differences and such...
Arsenal SLR105 para [http://fc07.deviantart.net/fs71/f/2010/244/8/2/arsenal_slr105_para_by_kaslawok-d2xs418.jpg] (real-steel name: AKS-74)
Dan Wesson 8" [http://fc06.deviantart.net/fs51/i/2009/260/f/a/Dan_Wesson_8___Airsoft_gun_by_Kaslawok.jpg] (also known as the WinGun) This picture actually turned out to be a pretty popular picture for this model. Seen webshops steal it.
A regular boring Tokyo Marui P90 [http://fc02.deviantart.net/fs70/f/2010/244/4/4/tokyo_marui_p90_by_kaslawok-d2xs5bg.jpg] - Good gun though.
I got a few more. Two of them I don't have any pictures of. Maybe it's about time I did create some.
Dan Wesson 8" [http://fc06.deviantart.net/fs51/i/2009/260/f/a/Dan_Wesson_8___Airsoft_gun_by_Kaslawok.jpg] (also known as the WinGun) This picture actually turned out to be a pretty popular picture for this model. Seen webshops steal it.
A regular boring Tokyo Marui P90 [http://fc02.deviantart.net/fs70/f/2010/244/4/4/tokyo_marui_p90_by_kaslawok-d2xs5bg.jpg] - Good gun though.
I got a few more. Two of them I don't have any pictures of. Maybe it's about time I did create some.
Ok, I got ya. It's more of a mil sim crowd. Do you guys have access to airsoft fields and scenario games like the milsim/scenario side of paintball or do you have to find your own plot of land and fun?Skywolf09 said:
Also, has there been any progress within the sport? I've been lucky enough to watch paintball evolve over the years. I started when pump markers were the norm and witnessed the transformation to electro-pneumatic rope slinging, fast paced tournament style play. It's as if the evolution of the sport was on fast forward.
Has there been a similar experience with airsoft?
I was always under the impression that longer barrels do make a difference in accuracy but only up till about 14 inches or so. Though from the sounds of your comment your talking more indoor and I am more of a outdoor guy myself and you only need to shoot so far in a indoor arena. I dunno you sound from your comments here like you have been playing for a long time so I would love to hear what you have to say on the matter. I have been looking at getting a longer barrel on my Tiberius 9.1 to improve my distance and accuracy (I use both first strikes and regular paint) any advice?TorqueConverter said:
Just to let ya' know if you didn't notice, I did edit my post a little to provide some more info I forgot to initially include. If you haven't read through that, please do so.
Depends on where you live, actually. In certain parts of the US (as an example) there are plenty of fields and such you can go to. Where I live, however, airsoft isn't nearly as popular as paintball is. As such, it's a bit more limited for me since there is only one airsoft place about a hour away from where I am (at least that I know of). Otherwise you pretty much do need to find someone who has their own plot of land.TorqueConverter said:
Oh most definitely. While I got into airsoft much later than some of the more big evolutions (like the evolution of the AEG[footnote]Or "Automatic Electric Gun", meaning an airsoft gun that uses a gearbox powered by a battery. When it comes to rifles and machine guns, AEG's are probably the most common type out there, far more common than their gas or spring powered counterparts. Other types of guns (i.e. pistols, shotguns, and sniper rifles) are a different matter, however, often using gas or spring-powered mechanisms instead.[/footnote], the invention of the "Hop-Up"[footnote]Basically a rubber piece that adds backspin to a bb to help it travel further[/footnote] system, the rise of affordable Chinese clone guns, and the increase in quality of said guns), I've still seen some interesting developments in my time with the sport. More effective Hop-Up systems, electric-blowback guns that require you to slap the bolt-release after emptying a magazine like their real counterparts, sniper rifles with special loading systems that allow the magazine to be placed in a realistic location rather than in the middle of the handguard, high capacity magazines that don't require constantly twisting a little wheel on the bottom of the mag... little things that actually haven't been implemented in large numbers yet, but interesting things for an airsoft fan like me nonetheless.TorqueConverter said:
Paintball has been riddled with bogus claims pertaining to accuracy and trajectory. It was common knowledge that a closed bolt firing system of an Autococker "took turbulence off the ball" and that low pressure air system offered a flatter trajectory. These are all bogus claims.aba1 said:
Tech BP did a Mythbusters style testing of barrel accuracy to test both rifling, porting, construction and barrel length. Their conclusion in a nutshell: an aluminum tube is an aluminum tube or more the the point, a quality aluminum tube is a quality aluminum tube.
Sciencey post testing bit: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rDxWqM6WS9Q
I can't seem to find footage of the testing.
Their testing confirms my personal experience. Accuracy is primarily determined by the roundness of the paintball. Paintballs that are not spherical or have pronounced seams joining the two halves will behave poorly in the air, as in they will develop low pressure vortexes, and pull the ball in directions other than "straight".
Consistency is an entirely different matter but is often lumped in with "accuracy". Assuming ideal paintball behavior, consistency refers to your markers ability to place one paintball on top of another. This boils down into the ability to precisely regulate the volume of a gas propellent from shot to shot.
Minimum barrel length is believed to be around 9 inches and a maximum of 20 inches. Deviations in accuracy are more likely to occur when stepping outside these boundaries. No discernible differences in accuracy are know to exist within the 9 - 20 inch range.
I'd like to add that as velocity increases I believe there to be a increase in accuracy proportional to an increase in barrel length. At 450 FPS I expect a 16 inch barrel to score better than a 9 inch barrel. The legal limit in FPS in 300 with many fields allowing less.
The qualities I look for in a barrel is a smooth polished inner surface so as to have my paint "squeegee" out any barrel breaks that may occur. I also prefer a one piece step-bore construction so as to eliminate any inconsistencies of the manufacture joining two pieces of metal.
I like CP one piece barrels. I'll take a bag full of them in various sizes over any kit on the market.
Indoor or outdoor, there is no differences in barrel length pertaining to accuracy. My advice is to purchase the best paint you can afford and to regulate your marker as precisely as you can. A compressed air source such as nitrogen is my recommendation. CO2 is very difficult to regulate and will spoil even the best paint.
Barrel length is a matter of ergonomics. I like a 16 to 18 incher for woodball as it allows me to take more cover behind brush yet still poke out the muzzle. I prefer a 12 to 14 inch barrel for Xball with inflatable bunkers as it allows be to press myself up against the bunker while still retaining the ability to "push" the bunker and snap shoot.
I have a co2 pistol, Mp5(lipo battery) and a king arms ak 74 all metal and 6 mags for it.
I havent had the chance to airsoft yet but my friend is bringing me soon so all i need now are extra batteries, camo and ankle supporting boots.
That's the ak 74 http://shop.ehobbyasia.com/king-arms-ak74-tapco-folding-stock-aeg.html
I havent had the chance to airsoft yet but my friend is bringing me soon so all i need now are extra batteries, camo and ankle supporting boots.
That's the ak 74 http://shop.ehobbyasia.com/king-arms-ak74-tapco-folding-stock-aeg.html
Behold my precious. It's a tokyo marui m14 socom.
Good range and power, with the shortened barrel for closer ranges.
Good range and power, with the shortened barrel for closer ranges.
There's a few variations. This kind is the most successful performance wise. It's simple really. The CO2 capsule is in the grip, and the CO2 comes out from a hole behind the cartridge alligned with the barrel. Each cartridge has one BB squeezed into the hard rubber tip, and the cartridge is basically just a tube. The gas valve is placed so the hammer strikes it open, and the CO2 goes through the back-end of the cartridge and pushes the BB out through the barrel. Other than that it functions like a regular revolver, with the drum turning for each shot.cojo965 said:
The BB is pushed out at about 450 feets per second with a 0.20g BB. It's really too powerful for it's own good. Most proper airsoft playgrounds restrict such power with a safety distance that makes it a long range weapon rather than sidearm. I find it quite accurate though, and not at all useless. I've gotten a few long distance hits with it that made my group start calling it the one-handed sniper.