Et tu EA?

[Blindswordmaster]

Bought Bulletstorm and Dead Space 2 recently and I noticed the online pass-code. I didn't really think about it, why should I when I bought both games new? Then I noticed that the Bulletstorm online pass is 10 dollars. 10 dollars?! On top of whatever anyone else paid for it? Bullshit! I know this is to combat used game sales, but what the fuck? Now you may argue that you could easily enjoy both those games on single-player alone, but what about Battlefield 3? Will you be willing to pay an additional 10 dollars to play the majority of the game's content? No, this is horse shit.

 

[Radeonx]

I'm pretty sure that if you buy the game new you get the online for free.
At least, that's how it was with my last EA multiplayer game.

It is a tactic to get money from people who buy used games.

 

[oplinger]

...It's just 10 dollars. Also that's really really old, project 10 dollar has been around for what? a year now?

Seriously ...it's 10 dollars. ....Who cares? I mean yeah feel free to argue that you could use 10 dollars for lots of things like...toothpaste, or gum balls. But at the end of the day, they didn't surprise you with it. >.> You don't need games. You don't need to spend the extra 10 dollars..

 

[Doctor What]

First off, no I would not.

Secondly, wow. It's been so long since I've bought a new game I'm completely out of the loop when it comes to how they are trying to nickle and dime us out of money.

 

[Blindswordmaster]

I'm pretty sure that if you buy the game new you get the online for free.
At least, that's how it was with my last EA multiplayer game.

It is a tactic to get money from people who buy used games.

thank you for summarizing the points I made in original post

 

[Something Amyss]

...It's just 10 dollars.

That's a good justification for bad consumerism.

 

[Blindswordmaster]

...It's just 10 dollars. Also that's really really old, project 10 dollar has been around for what? a year now?

Seriously ...it's 10 dollars. ....Who cares? I mean yeah feel free to argue that you could use 10 dollars for lots of things like...toothpaste, or gum balls. But at the end of the day, they didn't surprise you with it. >.> You don't need games. You don't need to spend the extra 10 dollars..

No, project 10 dollars gives you 10 dollars worth of DLC for free when you buy the game new. This makes you pay 10 dollars to unlock content already on the disc if you buy used.

 

[Radeonx]

I'm pretty sure that if you buy the game new you get the online for free.
At least, that's how it was with my last EA multiplayer game.

It is a tactic to get money from people who buy used games.

thank you for summarizing the points I made in original post

So why are you complaining? You don't have to pay anything.

 

[Blindswordmaster]

I'm pretty sure that if you buy the game new you get the online for free.
At least, that's how it was with my last EA multiplayer game.

It is a tactic to get money from people who buy used games.

thank you for summarizing the points I made in original post

So why are you complaining? You don't have to pay anything.

Yes, but I like to buy used games and I like EA games and I don't want to pay for content that's already on the disc. I'm rallying for my gamer brothers.

 

[Radeonx]

I'm pretty sure that if you buy the game new you get the online for free.
At least, that's how it was with my last EA multiplayer game.

It is a tactic to get money from people who buy used games.

thank you for summarizing the points I made in original post

So why are you complaining? You don't have to pay anything.

Yes, but I like to buy used games and I like EA games and I don't want to pay for content that's already on the disc. I'm rallying for my gamer brothers.

EA has every right to charge you. If you want access to the full content, buy the game from the publisher, not a third party. The used game market takes away multiple sales from the publisher/developers, so it makes perfect sense for them to charge you to use extra content.

 

[RedEyesBlackGamer]

I'm pretty sure that if you buy the game new you get the online for free.
At least, that's how it was with my last EA multiplayer game.

It is a tactic to get money from people who buy used games.

thank you for summarizing the points I made in original post

So why are you complaining? You don't have to pay anything.

Yes, but I like to buy used games and I like EA games and I don't want to pay for content that's already on the disc. I'm rallying for my gamer brothers.

Why should they? A used sale gives them the same amount of money that a pirated copy does. They have every right to withhold content in used copies to encourage people to buy it new so they can make a profit.

 

[oplinger]

...It's just 10 dollars.

That's a good justification for bad consumerism.

It's bad consumerism to mention it's just 10 dollars? Which consumerism are you refering to anyway? The kind that means we must consume more and more goods as time goes on? Or the safe consumer activism that protects comsumers with things like honest advertising?

Or were you trying to go with the definition set by economics? Where the consumers dictate the economic structure?

So let's see. First one is irrelevant, the second has no affect either as it's not something they hide or lie about. And my point exactly was the third one, you don't want to pay you don't buy it, you should know better.

So my point still stands, 10 dollars isn't a lot, but if you don't want to spend it, don't buy games, you can't spare the money for a hobby.

 

[Slavik_91]

Steam solves this problem me thinks, its usually cheaper than boxes too.

 

[Owyn_Merrilin]

First off, no I would not.

Secondly, wow. It's been so long since I've bought a new game I'm completely out of the loop when it comes to how they are trying to nickle and dime us out of money.

Wow, someone else on this forum who doesn't blindly cheer on the game companies as they try to separate us from our money. You are a minority on this site my friend. Be proud.


OT: Yep, that's what EA does. Game companies are unique in the way they rip off their customers, and then use their PR arm to somehow make them think they're getting a good deal. I mean, there's plenty of scams that work on that principle, but the difference is with most scams, the victims don't suffer from Stockholm syndrome.

 

[oplinger]

First off, no I would not.

Secondly, wow. It's been so long since I've bought a new game I'm completely out of the loop when it comes to how they are trying to nickle and dime us out of money.

Wow, someone else on this forum who doesn't blindly cheer on the game companies as they try to separate us from our money. You are a minority on this site my friend. Be proud.


OT: Yep, that's what EA does. Game companies are unique in the way they rip off their customers, and then use their PR arm to somehow make them think they're getting a good deal. I mean, there's plenty of scams that work on that principle, but the difference is with most scams, the victims don't suffer from Stockholm syndrome.

So what you're saying, is if you had a way to make more money when you're 10,000 dollars in debt, you wouldn't do it? Even if it was like....selling 50 cent cookies to children for 55 cents? I mean yeah sucks for the little kids, they might have to find another nickel. But if you don't pay back Jimmy the Wrench soon he's going to break your thumbs, but do it for the children! they need their cookies!

 

[Normandyfoxtrot]

First off, no I would not.

Secondly, wow. It's been so long since I've bought a new game I'm completely out of the loop when it comes to how they are trying to nickle and dime us out of money.

Wow, someone else on this forum who doesn't blindly cheer on the game companies as they try to separate us from our money. You are a minority on this site my friend. Be proud.


OT: Yep, that's what EA does. Game companies are unique in the way they rip off their customers, and then use their PR arm to somehow make them think they're getting a good deal. I mean, there's plenty of scams that work on that principle, but the difference is with most scams, the victims don't suffer from Stockholm syndrome.

So the fact that they actually want to get payed for current chuck (nearly sixty percent of the video game market is used sales) that the developers and publishers get absolutely positively zip? Look if they don't make enough money to justify a product that cost between 100 and 230 million dollars to make, advertise, and disseminate they will not make games, period.

 

[Radeonx]

First off, no I would not.

Secondly, wow. It's been so long since I've bought a new game I'm completely out of the loop when it comes to how they are trying to nickle and dime us out of money.

Wow, someone else on this forum who doesn't blindly cheer on the game companies as they try to separate us from our money. You are a minority on this site my friend. Be proud.

Yeah, because if you were the head of a company, you wouldn't try to get back some of the money that you're losing through the used games system.
Come on, no matter how much you don't like it, it is a perfectly logical business decision.

 

[Normandyfoxtrot]

To drag this out further we're talking about multiplayer specifically the 10 bucks is to allow you to multi on EA's servers. So really the 10 dollars is only used to rent space on a EA server. From a purely logical stand point I cannot see how you can possible believe they are wrong when your suggesting that after they receive no monetary gain from your purchase of a game that the publisher/Developers should then also have to foot the built for the bandwidth and server wear that was caused by your gaming on their infrastructure.

 

[Serenegoose]

EA has every right to charge you. If you want access to the full content, buy the game from the publisher, not a third party. The used game market takes away multiple sales from the publisher/developers, so it makes perfect sense for them to charge you to use extra content.

A unique position amongst the free market.
Just in! Buy a second hand table, but you'll need to buy legs from Ikea!
Want a second hand car? Ford will be having that engine til you cough up, methinks.
A friend let you have a book? The author will be taking Chapter 7 until you pay for it.

Yeah, no. companies make money from second hand sales, because the ability to sell goods on is a part of the value of the goods. Lots of gamers pay RRP because they know that they'll be able to get some of the money back on trades. Take that away, and you're devaluing your own product. Their greed gets no sympathy from me.