Ever get the feeling that your country is run by idiots?

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DSK-

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I think that all the time. I know these people are elected democratically, but from my experience they are all as bad as eachother. Which is why I don't vote.
 

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Wade Wilson said:
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The war in Afghanistan was started to build and protect a pipeline with which to transmit Iraqi oil through Turkey instead of Russia.
Because Iraq is bordering Afghanistan and definitely not bordering Turkey...

http://www.njscvva.org/images/Military%20Photographs/Map%20-%20Middle%20East%20-%20Persian%20Gulf%20-%20Southwest%20Asia.gif
Hmmmm.... hard to argue with that.... I'm gonna go back and read up on my facts...
 

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Tim_Buoy said:
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When it comes to which administration ran the US into the ground, I think you might want to focus on who was in the White House over the previous 8 years instead of who has been in it for two.

Things have been building towards a mess in the US for over a decade. You can't expect anyone to seriously believe that its been rainbows and sunshine until suddenly a Democratic black man was voted in as the U.S. President.

Anyway, I'd rather focus on productive ideas for fixing all of our problems world-wide rather than just pointing fingers... its easy to *****. How about working to fix things?
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About the level of literacy I've come to expect from Bush apologists. And no, I'm not a liberal, I just really hate Bush. He turned a billion dollar surplus into a trillion dollar deficit. He started a war in Iraq based on obvious fabrications, to benefit the oil companies and military-industrial complex that got him elected in the first place. And thanks to him, the world looks at the US as a retarded bully. He's the worst president we've ever had.

EDIT: His dad was alright. And Afghanistan was justified, if completely impractical.
one: im dyslexic (fuck i think thats how you spell it) so shut up
two :i never said i liked him i hate most presidents im saying for as much brain damage he received drinking he did an okay job
three: the worst president ever was hoover at least bush didnt reduce the country to living in shanty towns
four:whats wrong with supporting the military most major advances in technology is from the military
1. Dyslexia is a reading disorder, not a writing one.
2. Okay...but Grant was a bigger drinker, and he didn't fuck up as bad.
3. Most people would have said Buchanan for pretty much allowing the Civil War to happen. Hoover didn't cause the Depression all on his own, he just didn't do anything to stop it. Bush, as opposed to the other two, was actively horrible. His Oriental adventures are both why our government is so heavily in debt and also why the rest of the world is that much less likely to buy our exports. As to the shanty towns, they can't exist because of the welfare system set up during the Depression to deal with them.
4. Never said I don't like the military. I just don't trust candidates whose cabinet members and campaign funds come from the companies that supply technology to the military. One of the best presidents, Eisenhower, warned that "In the councils of government, we must guard against the acquisition of unwarranted influence, whether sought or unsought, by the military-industrial complex."
 

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blindthrall said:
Tim_Buoy said:
blindthrall said:
Tim_Buoy said:
niblik said:
manaman said:
When it comes to which administration ran the US into the ground, I think you might want to focus on who was in the White House over the previous 8 years instead of who has been in it for two.

Things have been building towards a mess in the US for over a decade. You can't expect anyone to seriously believe that its been rainbows and sunshine until suddenly a Democratic black man was voted in as the U.S. President.

Anyway, I'd rather focus on productive ideas for fixing all of our problems world-wide rather than just pointing fingers... its easy to *****. How about working to fix things?
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About the level of literacy I've come to expect from Bush apologists. And no, I'm not a liberal, I just really hate Bush. He turned a billion dollar surplus into a trillion dollar deficit. He started a war in Iraq based on obvious fabrications, to benefit the oil companies and military-industrial complex that got him elected in the first place. And thanks to him, the world looks at the US as a retarded bully. He's the worst president we've ever had.

EDIT: His dad was alright. And Afghanistan was justified, if completely impractical.
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1. Dyslexia is a reading disorder, not a writing one.
2. Okay...but Grant was a bigger drinker, and he didn't fuck up as bad.
3. Most people would have said Buchanan for pretty much allowing the Civil War to happen. Hoover didn't cause the Depression all on his own, he just didn't do anything to stop it. Bush, as opposed to the other two, was actively horrible. His Oriental adventures are both why our government is so heavily in debt and also why the rest of the world is that much less likely to buy our exports. As to the shanty towns, they can't exist because of the welfare system set up during the Depression to deal with them.
4. Never said I don't like the military. I just don't trust candidates whose cabinet members and campaign funds come from the companies that supply technology to the military. One of the best presidents, Eisenhower, warned that "In the councils of government, we must guard against the acquisition of unwarranted influence, whether sought or unsought, by the military-industrial complex."
dysleia also effects how a person writes as well
 

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£300+ a year or £50-100 is a lot when your on about £50-£60 a week for everything. Just checked online. Disability benefits are way too low.
Hence the importance of both good private insurance and an easy job. Disability benefits are not meant for long term financial support, never have been.

Usually companies pay early retirement or the wage you were earning (usually halfed) after you are forced from work. I dont know this case, so I have no idea what you are meant to do on it. Sure it is sad if both earners are disabled and have to support a family on only that but you cannot blame the system for that...

The £50-100 is the cost of private insurance, which is unaffordable to anybody living on disability benifits. Also your mention of companies having to pay for early retirement etc if you are forced from work has no impact if you were never fit to work and didnt have a job in the first place, ie if you are extremely crippled from birth, or say have learning difficulties.
 

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Will the Great said:
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Yes. I can't shrug the feeling that some people voted for Obama BECAUSE he is black. I'm all in for a black president, and when I first hear about Mr. Obama's racial ethnicity, I was excited. However, he's just not a good president. I don't think John McCain or Sarah Palin would've been too good either. Oh well. I'm pretty sure he's going to make a big mistake sometime and get impeached. Or assassinated, but I hope that doesn't happen. He shouldn't be in control of my country, but I don't think he deserves to die. He seems like a relatively nice guy who seemingly WANTS to do the right thing, but I don't think he's smart enough to do so.
So you think Hillary Clinton or Ralph Nader would have done better? Honestly I'm not sure what your point is. Are you complaining that Plato and his perfect philosopher-king weren't options on the ballot?
For the first sentence, my short answer is no. Long answer: NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO.
Second, My point is that My country is run by an idiot, but I respect the idiot none the less.
Third, actually, Plato would be a good president. Didn't think of that.
Fourth, I like Ice Cream.
 

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I don't what's more sad. The elected officials in the US, or the citizens that voted them in. It's too hard not to facepalm every day.
 

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Hgame said:
The £50-100 is the cost of private insurance, which is unaffordable to anybody living on disability benifits. Also your mention of companies having to pay for early retirement etc if you are forced from work has no impact if you were never fit to work and didnt have a job in the first place, ie if you are extremely crippled from birth, or say have learning difficulties.
 

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I am sorry to sound calous, but I do not believe it is the states responsibility to take care of these people. It is down to the families that brought them into this world to do that. It is then the states responsibility to make sure the families of these people have the support they need to earn and help their family members.

This is why there are charitable foundations setup around the world, be it help with groceries etc. Because it isnt the gov'ts responsibility to do ANYTHING.

I do not believe in state welfare, especially cradle to grave welfare.
 

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dragonslayer32 said:
BigZ225 said:
All the time and no matter who is in power, it still feels like the same dicks. However having said that, Cameron/Clegg at least feel better, than that droopy faced dick that we had before.
I am sorry, but I have to disagree. I live in the north east, the place which sufferes the most from a conservative government. Brown wasn't given a chance, he was busy cleaning up after Blair when he got booted. What annoys me about the tories is that they have committed to massive cuts, yet David Cameron has 3 houses and claims for cleaners and cooks. Fair? I think not. Also, academies were designed to turn around the worst schools, yet the current government are turning the best schools into them to save money; once again, the poor suffer.
also as far as i know the academies are not going to be monitered by OFSTED all that much and that the only real regulation they will get will be based actual statute law rather then recommendation and guidelines set up by boards such as OFSTED. on top of that the academies can be set up and run by parents who can also employ other parents as teachers since they dont have to employ qualified teachers like all public run schools.
 

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Distorted Stu said:
The UK is certainly run by monkeys. The whole prision, benefits, health and tradition are completely mucked up. The only thing they havnt fucked up FULLY is the education system, but even that has its flaws. Wooo England -_-
What the hell happened to you guys? I remember the British people I saw earlier in my life being as cocky as hell and annoying.

Everything I know is wrong.
 

Littlee300

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dragonslayer32 said:
Hello fellow Escapists, prepare for a rant. I was watching the local news yesterday and there is a man with cancer that has been refused treatment on the NHS for his cancer because the government says it is too expensive. He will die without those drugs. Also, both of my parents are disabled but have to pay £300+ for prescriptions a year. Meanwhile, the NHS is funding surf lessons (£250 per person) for people with ADHD.

So, does anyone have similar problems with their government?
What is that guys pay pal? We escapist people could save his life! :D