Ever get the feeling that your country is run by idiots?

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Politicians know exactly what they're doing. They ain't idiots. Think about it for a second. Every politician has made 99% of people buy the same party line "we need governance". All throughout history, politicians and theocrats (obstensibly what the Monarchy is is a theocratic society appointed by 'God' to lead the people) have gotten people to think they actually need nsome form of feudal or (later) national governance.

When politicians fuck up (which all inevitably do) ... do we then turn around and ask the question whether politicians are needed? oh no ... we turn around and say "oh we just need another politician".

Politicians are the smartest people on the planet ... they regress society from true independance to serfdom, and then expect you to pay for the pleasure.

They turn around and tell you to fear 'the other', but then rellish the chance to spend your money on a vacation overseas or to greet foreign dignitaries.

They are manipulators, thieves, con artists and sociopaths ... every single one of them. And every one of us on this planet is guilty for putting people like this on a pedestal. They feed on the basic principal that Humanity should be a house in disrepair ... that walls need to be built, that cultures be segmented by geography, and give religions a rise to regionalism.

Do not fear an idiotic politician, fear a politician that pretends to be simple, average, and 'one of the people'.
 

Bullfrog1983

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Well our government hasn't done the best job lately with the G8 and G20 summits in Canada. They spent $1.1 Billion on hosting those two (considering most countries spend $300-400 mil) it makes me furious. They also invested $1.9 million in a fake INDOOR lake in Northern Ontario. I mean what the hell would you do that for? We've got thousands of places that people could go to, but that was what they decided to spend it on. Not to mention the party in power at the moment has prorogued (closed) parliament twice during the recession.
 

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Bullfrog1983 said:
Well our government hasn't done the best job lately with the G8 and G20 summits in Canada. They spent $1.1 Billion on hosting those two (considering most countries spend $300-400 mil) and also invested $1.9 million in a fake INDOOR lake in Northern Ontario. I mean what the hell would you do that for? We've got thousands of places that people could go to, but that was what they decided to spend it on. Not to mention the party in power at the moment has prorogued (closed) parliament twice during the recession.
All that and then some.
I just found out last week that in the 2010 budget that got passed, there was a new law that stated that anything the CBC wanted to publish had to be approved by the government. CBC wasn't exactly free and independent to begin with, but now we've got nothing except a propaganda machine. Oh well; at least it'll still be better and more informative than American news media.
 

Cpu46

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Well I really hate the way the US officials are elected nowadays. A two party system was the exact opposite of what George Washington wanted for our government. Now we have Democrats who wont vote for anyone or anything Republican and Republicans who do the same, all while the independents cant get enough support to stand a chance. Nobody votes on what they think is right. Its all a power grab for your own party. What the USA really needs is a man with a plan and no Political alignments, someone who can place legislation onto the table without it getting automatically shot down by the other side. But such a man wont get elected in the first place cause the Republicans will only vote for their own and the Democrats will do the same.
 

countrysteaksauce

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There's so much QQ in this thread. Boo hoo, Poor me, I live in a developed Western country and have access to a computer, internet, and electricity. Just be thankful that your government isn't out and about stifling dissent at gunpoint.
 

dragonslayer32

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Littlee300 said:
dragonslayer32 said:
Hello fellow Escapists, prepare for a rant. I was watching the local news yesterday and there is a man with cancer that has been refused treatment on the NHS for his cancer because the government says it is too expensive. He will die without those drugs. Also, both of my parents are disabled but have to pay £300+ for prescriptions a year. Meanwhile, the NHS is funding surf lessons (£250 per person) for people with ADHD.

So, does anyone have similar problems with their government?
What is that guys pay pal? Us escapist people could save his life! :D
Great idea, I honestly wish I knew it. Although, the drungs cost around £400,000 I think. This is what is pissing me off, those drugs are free in Europe, just not here in the UK. What happened to being part of the EU? You would think that they would help the poor guy out.
 

Hgame

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Bretty said:
I am sorry to sound calous, but I do not believe it is the states responsibility to take care of these people. It is down to the families that brought them into this world to do that. It is then the states responsibility to make sure the families of these people have the support they need to earn and help their family members.

This is why there are charitable foundations setup around the world, be it help with groceries etc. Because it isnt the gov'ts responsibility to do ANYTHING.

I do not believe in state welfare, especially cradle to grave welfare.
They are taking our taxes, therefore they have a duty to protect us with that tax money. Families on their own cannot always support people, thats where the state is there fore, to be a safety net and help people through the most difficult points of their lives, especially if they have no family. The welfare state isnt perfect (Nothing ever is. Except Deus Ex) but its the best system we have, and far better than the alternative - poor people dying because they cant afford food, healthcare, shelter etc. Anyway, lets just agree to disagree.
 

Hgame

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Pingieking said:
Bullfrog1983 said:
Well our government hasn't done the best job lately with the G8 and G20 summits in Canada. They spent $1.1 Billion on hosting those two (considering most countries spend $300-400 mil) and also invested $1.9 million in a fake INDOOR lake in Northern Ontario. I mean what the hell would you do that for? We've got thousands of places that people could go to, but that was what they decided to spend it on. Not to mention the party in power at the moment has prorogued (closed) parliament twice during the recession.
All that and then some.
I just found out last week that in the 2010 budget that got passed, there was a new law that stated that anything the CBC wanted to publish had to be approved by the government. CBC wasn't exactly free and independent to begin with, but now we've got nothing except a propaganda machine. Oh well; at least it'll still be better and more informative than American news media.
Hearing this makes me so glad I live in the UK, if something like that happened to the BBC there would be riots in the street. If you want some unbiased news, you should use the BBC world service.
 

Bretty

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Hgame said:
Bretty said:
I am sorry to sound calous, but I do not believe it is the states responsibility to take care of these people. It is down to the families that brought them into this world to do that. It is then the states responsibility to make sure the families of these people have the support they need to earn and help their family members.

This is why there are charitable foundations setup around the world, be it help with groceries etc. Because it isnt the gov'ts responsibility to do ANYTHING.

I do not believe in state welfare, especially cradle to grave welfare.
They are taking our taxes, therefore they have a duty to protect us with that tax money. Families on their own cannot always support people, thats where the state is there fore, to be a safety net and help people through the most difficult points of their lives, especially if they have no family. The welfare state isnt perfect (Nothing ever is. Except Deus Ex) but its the best system we have, and far better than the alternative - poor people dying because they cant afford food, healthcare, shelter etc. Anyway, lets just agree to disagree.
You said it, the State is there to help, but not to support. This is what charity does.

So to me the whole idea of the country being run by idiots is wholly naive at best. The taxes go to our emergency services, military, roads, NHS etc etc etc. They also opted to through in the low level of welfare for people that are really desperate. I DONT think the system is perfect, but it works.
 

Littlee300

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dragonslayer32 said:
Littlee300 said:
dragonslayer32 said:
Hello fellow Escapists, prepare for a rant. I was watching the local news yesterday and there is a man with cancer that has been refused treatment on the NHS for his cancer because the government says it is too expensive. He will die without those drugs. Also, both of my parents are disabled but have to pay £300+ for prescriptions a year. Meanwhile, the NHS is funding surf lessons (£250 per person) for people with ADHD.

So, does anyone have similar problems with their government?
What is that guys pay pal? Us escapist people could save his life! :D
Great idea, I honestly wish I knew it. Although, the drungs cost around £400,000 I think. This is what is pissing me off, those drugs are free in Europe, just not here in the UK. What happened to being part of the EU? You would think that they would help the poor guy out.
People can stalk other people just by knowing their name and occupation.
 

dragonslayer32

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Littlee300 said:
dragonslayer32 said:
Littlee300 said:
dragonslayer32 said:
Hello fellow Escapists, prepare for a rant. I was watching the local news yesterday and there is a man with cancer that has been refused treatment on the NHS for his cancer because the government says it is too expensive. He will die without those drugs. Also, both of my parents are disabled but have to pay £300+ for prescriptions a year. Meanwhile, the NHS is funding surf lessons (£250 per person) for people with ADHD.

So, does anyone have similar problems with their government?
What is that guys pay pal? Us escapist people could save his life! :D
Great idea, I honestly wish I knew it. Although, the drugs cost around £400,000 I think. This is what is pissing me off, those drugs are free in Europe, just not here in the UK. What happened to being part of the EU? You would think that they would help the poor guy out.
People can stalk other people just by knowing their name and occupation.
I know you mean well and have good intentions, but that may be a tad wiered...
 

Amphoteric

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ntw3001 said:
Distorted Stu said:
The UK is certainly run by monkeys. The whole prision, benefits, health and tradition are completely mucked up. The only thing they havnt fucked up FULLY is the education system, but even that has its flaws. Wooo England -_-
I rather think the UK education system would be more effective if it were removed entirely and replaced with nothing.
Or just replace it with Northern Ireland's education system. The best in the UK
 

Vortex Traveller

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Definatly, The current collition are so fixed on reducing the debt its not thinking carefully enough about the consequences of all the cuts. I'm all for getting people into work but we also need to have the jobs avalable for people to go. I'm fed up of the "blame the previous goverment" reason approach for their over zealous and poorly thought though cuts. I agree the last Government wasn't perfect and made major errors (selling gold reserves cheap) and cutbacks are needed but they need to be made more carefully. I'd say put more pressure on the banks (They have a considerable amount to answer for regarding their role in the collape of the economy) and sort out the waste in goverment, cutting unnessercery buacracy like the amount of management and paperwork and streamline the systems so its easier to understand so less errors are made.
 

CouchCommando

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Actually having winged about my nations leaders on both a state and federal level for quite some time, I'm actually astonished at what they have accomplished, and I am not talking about for the good of the community, they managed to take arguably one of the worlds best national communication companies that was wholly owned by the Australian public, and was actually one of the few publicly held assets that turned a ginormous profit thereby offsetting tax gains to the general public at large, and sell it off!!! To private share holders, they sold this to the public and at large they copped it without complaint, then to offset the obvious financial woes losing the cash cow would have, they introduced a new tax on the proviso that the older income tax system would be scrapped, and...... in the two most heavily populated states... they did nothing.....they just whacked a 10% gst on everything and kept the income tax as is...I mean seriously this happened some time ago and my head is still spinning, spurred on by this they then did the same thing with one of the nations largest banks, and no one is asking where the monies are going....Its actually quite mind blowing the magnitude of what they are actually managing to get away with here.
The interstate rail system has effectively ceased to exist, there by further cementing the future monopoly of inter state freight By Lindsay Fox, And holiday travel by the Air carriers and coach companies.
Some other things are giving indigenous Australians land rights, but no rights to approve or oppose large mining interests nor potentially profit from said agreement. Whilst paying them "welfare" and then deploring the state of the Aboriginal rural communities.
And the one thing I actually saw our government try and do that was even remotely good for the public at large, they completely botched, By trying to sell a 40% mining tax to the public, resulting in the leader of the nation been deposed by his own ministers.
Ok I'm gonna stop because I'm starting to bore myself lol.
 

Wolfy1328

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yes. I don't know WHY people voted democrat, really. Like, Abortion is bad, and i don't get how anyone but 15-17 girls who "screwed up" could support it.

And I think obama is doing something wrong in the war in Iraq. We shouldn't take troops out. That just opens the actual states to be attacked again and again. Seriously. We need to fight for our freedom as a country, and not let other countries kill our citizens because they are jealous.