Evidence that would make you worship

[Zacharine]

Anything that was relatively proven scientifically. Basically something substantial and not just coincidence would probably sway me.

But even that would not be enough to make me worship that deity.

I fact, as with evidence regarding the existance of gods, even with such a god existing (assuming he isn't omniscient) I doubt there would be anything that would make me worship him of my own free will.

May I ask why you wouldn't worship said God. Assuming this religion works like Christianity and there is some kind of reward for your devotion, why wouldn't you?

Because simply by proving his existance, the deity has not yet established that there actually would be some kind of reward for worship.

Also, depending on your philosophical viewpoint, if you are doing it for a reward is it really out of your own free will and not bribery?

EDIT: The deity has also not yet proven that he is worthy of worship. Worship is after all a form of devotion and subservience. Would you voluntarily worship an all-powerful Cthulhu? Remember, as I stated in the OP, we have no knowledge if the god is good or evil. I would not want to worship an evil god.

 

[Cherry Cola]

I'd ask him to destroy all fanboys in the world in exchange for me to worship him, and if the dumb jackass did it I'd just shout "Psyche!" and then burn in hell with the rest of all the fanboys.

 

[Zacharine]

Some background: Many atheists don't believe in a god,

You mean all atheists don't believe in a god, that being the prime factor of all atheists.


OT: If he is a god it means that he created something lower than him, he demands worship.

Nice quote-mine

Also, if you one day create a bacteria, would you demand it worship you?

 

[Zacharine]

You do know it is impossible to be both an athiest and be agnostic right?

Umm, no.

Atheism can be either the rejection of theism, or the position that deities do not exist. In the broadest sense, it is the absence of belief in the existence of deities.

Agnosticism (Greek: α- a-, without + γνώσις gnōsis, knowledge; after Gnosticism) is the philosophical view that the truth value of certain claims ? particularly metaphysical claims regarding theology, afterlife or the existence of deities ? is unknown or, depending on the form of agnosticism, inherently impossible to prove or disprove and hence unknowable. It is not a religious declaration in itself and the terms Agnosticism and (A)Theism are not mutually exclusive.

 

[EchetusXe]

A) Assuming this being is as omnipotent as he claims he could prove it to us quite easily.

I'd consider things like 'is this a trick by technologically advanced aliens' and 'technology or supernatural? Does it really matter?'

B) To worship I would have to be threatened or promised a reward.

Spending an hour a day praying to avoid eternal pain or eternal glory is worth it in my opinion, if the being your worshipping definitely exists.

Only reason I don't go to the Mosque every week and aren't praying to Meccah five times a day is that Allah hasn't told my ass to do it. I would think an all-powerful, all-knowing creature would come up with a better strategy than "you tell them all about it, I'm sure they'll believe you".

 

[Zacharine]

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You know, that post alone makes me respect you more than half of the Christians I know. If only more people had the strenght of character to admit that they can't prove the existance of God and that even don't have to.

 

[Lullabye]

You do know it is impossible to be both an athiest and be agnostic right?

Umm, no.

Atheism can be either the rejection of theism, or the position that deities do not exist. In the broadest sense, it is the absence of belief in the existence of deities.

Agnosticism (Greek: α- a-, without + γνώσις gnōsis, knowledge; after Gnosticism) is the philosophical view that the truth value of certain claims ? particularly metaphysical claims regarding theology, afterlife or the existence of deities ? is unknown or, depending on the form of agnosticism, inherently impossible to prove or disprove and hence unknowable. It is not a religious declaration in itself and the terms Agnosticism and (A)Theism are not mutually exclusive.

but the existence of the afterlife isn't unknown, or the metaphysical. they don't exist. people just believe they do. but i get what you mean. I always kinda lumped in in with atheism and theism thinking it was a stance on religion. silly me/sarcasm.

A) Assuming this being is as omnipotent as he claims he could prove it to us quite easily.

I'd consider things like 'is this a trick by technologically advanced aliens' and 'technology or supernatural? Does it really matter?'

B) To worship I would have to be threatened or promised a reward.

Spending an hour a day praying to avoid eternal pain or eternal glory is worth it in my opinion, if the being your worshipping definitely exists.

Only reason I don't go to the Mosque every week and aren't praying to Meccah five times a day is that Allah hasn't told my ass to do it. I would think an all-powerful, all-knowing creature would come up with a better strategy than "you tell them all about it, I'm sure they'll believe you".

god, if it existed, would be an alien. it meets all the proper requirements. except it doesn't exist. Aliens do. but they are sooo far away that we tend to think they don't/offtopic

 

[Ultress]

If he came down and admitted he 's fucked up, I could commit to a god who knows he's fucked up and wants to atone for it.

 

[WickedSkin]

Ok right now I will pray for 1 billion ?.

If 1 billion euros spawn in front of me I will know there is a creator and I will believe.

No euros, no god.

 

[Gaderael]

Good. Question. I'm going to have to take some time to think about this. I'll get back to this.

 

[Jirlond]

Many people that believe in god do so because of pascals wager [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pascal%27s_Wager]!

 

[Legion]

An interesting post, I hope people can give mature enough answers.

What kind of evidence would you require to
A)switch from your current religion/belief/non-belief into believing in this god?

I am Agnostic, bordering on mild belief; not in any religion as such, just that I find it hard to believe that this is all there is to existence, because to me Die-Hard Atheism makes as little sense as zealous belief in a God.

For evidence I don't know. The issue being that even if I heard an overwhelming voice claiming to be God, an experience completely mind shattering and unique, I have no way of telling if it's real or if I am delusional.

Even if many people felt this phenomena, there's still no way to prove whether it is real or not.

and B) begin to worship this god of your own free will?

Please give me your thoughts, fellow Escapists.

-If I were able to be convinced that the God existed then I would never worship it if it were the type portrayed in the Christian/Jewish/Muslim beliefs (Omnipresent and Omnipotent). I'd have far too much hatred and resentment for it allowing the world to be the way it is.

There's also the factor that an all seeing and all knowing God completely defies the concept of free-will. So any worship wouldn't be a choice, it'd be inevitable.

The reason being that if I had a choice then the God couldn't be all knowing because it'd know what I'd do and if it did know what my choice was then being all powerful it already knew what I'd do before I was born, therefore it wasn't a choice it would mean I was created, programmed to behave that way.

-If on the other hand it was not all seeing and powerful (although able to create life it cannot control it) then I would feel appreciation, but I still can't see me worshipping it.

 

[HentMas]

Evidence: God appearing to me, in front of many other witnesses-that many people can't be hallucinating. And he has to do something physically impossible for a human to do/make/create the illusion of.

However, I would still not worship him, for if he is real then he is certainly not good, and I refuse to worship something out of fear.

have you seen penn and teller!?!? they can do anything god has being clamed to do, and they do, if god decides to expose himself i would love to see him convince penn and teller he is real!

 

[Jirlond]

I do love god in Battle pope!

 

[LeonLethality]

I'm an athiest because I simply dont care about religion not hat I dont believe or do believe I honestly dont care.

 

[Amnestic]

Some background: Many atheists don't believe in a god,

You mean all atheists don't believe in a god, that being the prime factor of all atheists.


OT: If he is a god it means that he created something lower than him, he demands worship.

Nice quote-mine

Also, if you one day create a bacteria, would you demand it worship you?

If you make a child, with the help of your significant other, do you demand your child worship its parents?

As for me: Never. Worship is an entirely alien concept to me. Following, listening to requests and/or orders and executing them? Fine. I know how to do that. Worship is a whole other ball game entirely. No thank you.

and if s/he was a God worth my worship anyway, s/he'd be okay with that.

 

[CaptainCrunch]

It begs the follow up question: why would an omipotent being need to claim itself as a god, and hence worthy of worship?

The very fact that something omnipotent suddenly decides to prove its existence really makes me worry. Anything with that big a need probably has issues, and is likely not worth worshiping. Another point to make is that worship doesn't work when you know the deity exists - at that point it would be more like asking for favors from the guy that's everybody's friend. Definitely a sketchy situation.