Excclusive! :(

[Dirty Hipsters]

There's a lot of games I'd love to play, but I certainly feel you, the console exclusivity is a pain in the dick.

Oh well, I just won't buy them. Controllers are too hard for me to use, and even if I was on a fair ground as everyone else, there's no way I can drop the money on a console when a HW upgrade for my PC is less than $100.

It's not just "console exclusivity", it's platform exclusivity as a whole.

A lot of times the narrative is flows from the PC gamers, how consoles are keeping games away from them that they want to play, but it's something that effects everyone on every platform. There are games on PC that a person with only a Nintendo console would like to play, there are games on Xbox that a person with only a PlayStation would like to play and so forth and so forth.

But the difference is that a decent gaming PC is powerful enough to play games from any system with some minimal optimization. The same can't be said about the Xbox One, PS4, or WiiU, which would struggle to play many of the higher end PC games.

My PC could run Breath of the Wild buttery smooth at 1440p at 60 fps if Nintendo released it on PC. They won't, instead I would have to play it at barely 30fps at 900p if I want to play it at all, an objectively worse experience in every way.

Sometimes PC games don't get ported to consoles because the ports would be really bad on a technical level. Sort of like when a game is released on a last gen and a current gen system simultaneously and the last gen version of it is barely playable *cough* Shadow of Morder *cough cough.*

 

[Phoenixmgs_v1legacy]

considering there few exclusive to start with (besides nintendo), I don't think I can really name 10 games that look slightly interesting on each console to try them out.
Maybe I'm just too selective (yes, I'm a hard pleased gamer)

PS4 in just the last 3 months has had The Last Guardian, Nioh, Horizon, Yakuza 0, and Gravity Rush 2 (I realize 2 of them aren't Sony developed). I'm not even a fan of most Sony games as I only like 1 game out of the God of War series and 1 from the Uncharted series. It's just that Sony releases more games than Nintendo and Microsoft combined.

quantity =/= quality

The Last Guardian and Horizon are amazing. The last game I'd give an 8/10 or higher before last year's Dishonored 2 would be something from last-gen, there was a 2-3 year gap of nothing great IMO. Now, in 4 months time, there's been 3 great games (2 of them PS4 exclusive). Nioh looks like something I could really enjoy, I'll give it a try at some point. I bought but haven't played Gravity Rush, and I've never played a Yakuza; so I don't know about those. There's going to be a handful of great Sony exclusives regardless of your taste because Sony makes all kind of genres whether shooters, platformers, adventure games (like Until Dawn or David Cage games), and indie stuff like Journey or Abzu. I don't care for the God of Wars, Uncharteds, Killzones, etc but there's more Sony exclusives that I like than both Nintendo and Microsoft exclusives combined. Microsoft no longer even has exclusives because they're all on PC (which is good) but at the same time lowers the value of the Xbox.

 

[Johnny Novgorod]

considering there few exclusive to start with (besides nintendo), I don't think I can really name 10 games that look slightly interesting on each console to try them out.
Maybe I'm just too selective (yes, I'm a hard pleased gamer)

PS4 in just the last 3 months has had The Last Guardian, Nioh, Horizon, Yakuza 0, and Gravity Rush 2 (I realize 2 of them aren't Sony developed). I'm not even a fan of most Sony games as I only like 1 game out of the God of War series and 1 from the Uncharted series. It's just that Sony releases more games than Nintendo and Microsoft combined.

quantity =/= quality

I agree and I'm sure if I look up those games they oh

 

[Casual Shinji]

I agree and I'm sure if I look up those games they oh

Yeah, but that's because the gaming media is biased towards Playstation exclussives, cuz... uhm, reasons.

 

[CaitSeith]

If you are considering a 3DS, go for a New 3DS. Even if people use it mainly as their Pok?mon machine, it has a pretty good library from 3rd party developers. Capcom games (Monster Hunter and Ace Attorney series), Square-Enix (Braverly Default) and even some good indies (Shovel Knight) added to Nintendo's strong games make it worth it.

 

[Strazdas]

Holding games ransom is a shitty tactic to force people to buy inferior playforms. If your playform was better than the competition you wouldnt need exclusives. As a result, i make it a hard rule to tell those companies to go fuck right off and consider anyone buying a platform for exclusives detrimental to gaming media.

 

[Yoshi178]

considering there few exclusive to start with (besides nintendo), I don't think I can really name 10 games that look slightly interesting on each console to try them out.
Maybe I'm just too selective (yes, I'm a hard pleased gamer)

PS4 in just the last 3 months has had The Last Guardian, Nioh, Horizon, Yakuza 0, and Gravity Rush 2 (I realize 2 of them aren't Sony developed). I'm not even a fan of most Sony games as I only like 1 game out of the God of War series and 1 from the Uncharted series. It's just that Sony releases more games than Nintendo and Microsoft combined.

quantity =/= quality

I agree and I'm sure if I look up those games they oh


*snip*

Zelda BOTW: 98/100 http://www.metacritic.com/game/switch/the-legend-of-zelda-breath-of-the-wild

Mario Kart 8: 88/100 http://www.metacritic.com/game/wii-u/mario-kart-8

Super Smash Bros for Wii u: 92/100 http://www.metacritic.com/game/wii-u/super-smash-bros-for-wii-u

Super Mario 3D World: 93/100 http://www.metacritic.com/game/wii-u/super-mario-3d-world

Xenoblade Chronicles X: 84/100 http://www.metacritic.com/game/wii-u/xenoblade-chronicles-x.






yeah, like you said, they're releasing more games. but none of those ones you listed are getting above 90/100 on metacritic are they?

the last PS4 game to score over 90/100 average on metacritc was Uncharted 4 and before that last Playstation game i remember getting a 90+ score on metacritc was The Last of Us and came out all the way back in June 2013 and was a PS3 game.
point is Sony consistently release's good games sure, but it's not like they consistently release amazing games like you're trying to make out.

 

[Johnny Novgorod]

considering there few exclusive to start with (besides nintendo), I don't think I can really name 10 games that look slightly interesting on each console to try them out.
Maybe I'm just too selective (yes, I'm a hard pleased gamer)

PS4 in just the last 3 months has had The Last Guardian, Nioh, Horizon, Yakuza 0, and Gravity Rush 2 (I realize 2 of them aren't Sony developed). I'm not even a fan of most Sony games as I only like 1 game out of the God of War series and 1 from the Uncharted series. It's just that Sony releases more games than Nintendo and Microsoft combined.

quantity =/= quality

I agree and I'm sure if I look up those games they oh


*snip*

Zelda BOTW: 98/100 http://www.metacritic.com/game/switch/the-legend-of-zelda-breath-of-the-wild

Mario Kart 8: 88/100 http://www.metacritic.com/game/wii-u/mario-kart-8

Super Smash Bros for Wii u: 92/100 http://www.metacritic.com/game/wii-u/super-smash-bros-for-wii-u

Super Mario 3D World: 93/100 http://www.metacritic.com/game/wii-u/super-mario-3d-world

Xenoblade Chronicles X: 84/100 http://www.metacritic.com/game/wii-u/xenoblade-chronicles-x.


yeah, like you said, they're releasing more games. but none of those ones you listed are getting above 90/100 on metacritic are they?

the last PS4 game to score over 90/100 average on metacritc was Uncharted 4 and before that last Playstation game i remember getting a 90+ score on metacritc was The Last of Us and came out all the way back in June 2013 and was a PS3 game.

point is Sony consistently release's good games sure, but it's not like they consistently release amazing games like you're trying to make out.

I'm not trying to do anything. You've been bested on every count of contadiction you threw in, by everybody who's answered you on this thread. You said what the PS4 had in quantity it lacked in quality. I showed you how highly ranked all those games released in the past 3 months are, both by critics and users. What you offer in response is that the Switch has a single well-reviewed game, then fall back on Wii U games released as far back as 2013. Proving the Switch can't match the PS4's catalogue of the past 3 months with its own, because it lacks quantity - and going by Metacritic scores of Bomberman and 1, 2 Switch (look them up!), also quality.

Don't waste too much effort cobbling an answer. It will go unread.

 

[Yoshi178]

considering there few exclusive to start with (besides nintendo), I don't think I can really name 10 games that look slightly interesting on each console to try them out.
Maybe I'm just too selective (yes, I'm a hard pleased gamer)

PS4 in just the last 3 months has had The Last Guardian, Nioh, Horizon, Yakuza 0, and Gravity Rush 2 (I realize 2 of them aren't Sony developed). I'm not even a fan of most Sony games as I only like 1 game out of the God of War series and 1 from the Uncharted series. It's just that Sony releases more games than Nintendo and Microsoft combined.

quantity =/= quality

I agree and I'm sure if I look up those games they oh


*snip*

Zelda BOTW: 98/100 http://www.metacritic.com/game/switch/the-legend-of-zelda-breath-of-the-wild

Mario Kart 8: 88/100 http://www.metacritic.com/game/wii-u/mario-kart-8

Super Smash Bros for Wii u: 92/100 http://www.metacritic.com/game/wii-u/super-smash-bros-for-wii-u

Super Mario 3D World: 93/100 http://www.metacritic.com/game/wii-u/super-mario-3d-world

Xenoblade Chronicles X: 84/100 http://www.metacritic.com/game/wii-u/xenoblade-chronicles-x.


yeah, like you said, they're releasing more games. but none of those ones you listed are getting above 90/100 on metacritic are they?

the last PS4 game to score over 90/100 average on metacritc was Uncharted 4 and before that last Playstation game i remember getting a 90+ score on metacritc was The Last of Us and came out all the way back in June 2013 and was a PS3 game.

point is Sony consistently release's good games sure, but it's not like they consistently release amazing games like you're trying to make out.

I'm not trying to do anything. You've been bested on every count of contadiction you threw in, by everybody who's answered you on this thread. You said what the PS4 had in quantity it lacked in quality. I showed you how highly ranked all those games released in the past 3 months are, both by critics and users. What you offer in response is that the Switch has a single well-reviewed game, then fall back on Wii U games released as far back as 2013. Proving the Switch can't match the PS4's catalogue of the past 3 months with its own, because it lacks quantity - and going by Metacritic scores of Bomberman and 1, 2 Switch (look them up!), also quality.

Don't waste too much effort cobbling an answer. It will go unread.

Switch has been out a few days and has 1 amazing 98/100 game. PS4 has been out for 4 years and in the last 3 months put out 5 games that scored in 80's range.

wow you sure showed me. *slow clap*

EDIT: oh and FYI

Snipperclips: 82/100 http://www.metacritic.com/game/switch/snipperclips---cut-it-out-together!

Fast RMX: 80/100 http://www.metacritic.com/game/switch/fast-rmx

that's 3 exclusive games released in these last few days on Switch for you.

 

[Phoenixmgs_v1legacy]

Switch has been out a few days and has 1 amazing 98/100 game. PS4 has been out for 4 years and in the last 3 months put out 5 games that scored in 80's range.

wow you sure showed me. *slow clap*

EDIT: oh and FYI

Snipperclips: 82/100 http://www.metacritic.com/game/switch/snipperclips---cut-it-out-together!

Fast RMX: 80/100 http://www.metacritic.com/game/switch/fast-rmx

that's 3 exclusive games released in these last few days on Switch for you.

We all know game reviews are FUBAR. Extremely high scoring games and I have a rather bad track record whether it's a GTAV, Skyrim, Witcher 3, Uncharted 4, etc. I would rate all those games a 5/10 or lower. So, trying to say Breath of the Wild is amazing because it scored a 98 is a rather meaningless statement. It takes a lot for a AAA release to get under an 80 nowadays so listing two games scoring in the low 80s means relatively nothing. Ghost Recon Wildlands just dipped a couple points under 80 and it's quite shit. Funny thing is I want a WiiU for the Platinum games, not for the Nintendo games.

 

[Yoshi178]

I would rate all those games a 5/10 or lower. So, trying to say Breath of the Wild is amazing because it scored a 98 is a rather meaningless statement.

could say exactly the same thing about all those 5 PS4 games that Johnny listed as well based on that.

 

[Phoenixmgs_v1legacy]

I would rate all those games a 5/10 or lower. So, trying to say Breath of the Wild is amazing because it scored a 98 is a rather meaningless statement.

could say exactly the same thing about all those 5 PS4 games that Johnny listed as well based on that.

You couldn't because I very much doubt you played them.

I posted in this thread originally replying to a poster saying Nintendo had the most exclusives when Sony easily outdoes both Nintendo and Microsoft combined because they have way more devs. Not only that but Sony has pretty much insane variety, more than probably any publisher (from Ubisoft to EA to Activision). What other publisher funds high production adventure games like Heavy Rain or Until Dawn? Or basically AAA indie games like Team ICO games? Sony even made basically Super Mario Maker but better well before Nintendo. Sony literally makes something for everyone. Would the Souls series even be a thing if Sony hadn't funded a good amount of Demon's Souls? How can you say Nintendo even comes close to the level of output of Sony in both quality and quantity?

 

[sXeth]

The main one that usually irks me is the game that's on the handheld but totally unavailable for the console system. While Son'ys handhelds barely float along, they have had a few games on them I'd have been interested in playing on my PS3/4 but for whatever reason never were released for those. Ironically, if you could get some DS stuff on the console (without having to buy a DS and hook into it), I might even consider a Nintendo console again, because there'd be more then like, 2 games I'd play on it. And there's no real situation I'd want a handheld for, I've got my own TV, and I get around on a bike or walking usually.

Microsoft I'm just kind of unbothered by. I don't know that they've had any true Xbox exclusives (Most of them are timed ones, or available on PC) that I've ever had much interest in.

 

[Yoshi178]

I would rate all those games a 5/10 or lower. So, trying to say Breath of the Wild is amazing because it scored a 98 is a rather meaningless statement.

could say exactly the same thing about all those 5 PS4 games that Johnny listed as well based on that.

You couldn't because I very much doubt you played them.

I posted in this thread originally replying to a poster saying Nintendo had the most exclusives when Sony easily outdoes both Nintendo and Microsoft combined because they have way more devs. Not only that but Sony has pretty much insane variety, more than probably any publisher (from Ubisoft to EA to Activision). What other publisher funds high production adventure games like Heavy Rain or Until Dawn? Or basically AAA indie games like Team ICO games? Sony even made basically Super Mario Maker but better well before Nintendo. Sony literally makes something for everyone. Would the Souls series even be a thing if Sony hadn't funded a good amount of Demon's Souls? How can you say Nintendo even comes close to the level of output of Sony in both quality and quantity?

again, this phrase you just said to me:

I would rate all those games a 5/10 or lower. So, trying to say Breath of the Wild is amazing because it scored a 98 is a rather meaningless statement.

is an entirely subjective statement so again, yes, i can easily say the exact same thing about those games Johnny posted.

 

[CritialGaming]

Can I take a moment to find it funny that the Xbox 1 doesn't even have a dog in this argument? I find it hilarious if I'm honest because that system is a colossal turd box. I can't even remember when the last exclusive even came out for it. Halo 5? I think...yeha I'm pretty sure it's Halo 5.

 

[gsilver]

Just a PC >>>>> A giant media cabinet filled with every console.


//Currently has a giant media cabinet filled with every console.

Ok, so I don't *really* need an Xbox One, but I like some Halo and Rare Replay, I 'aint giving up on Ratchet & Clank or Bloodborne, and frigging Mario and Zelda will always be part of my gaming life.

 

[laggyteabag]

Can I take a moment to find it funny that the Xbox 1 doesn't even have a dog in this argument? I find it hilarious if I'm honest because that system is a colossal turd box. I can't even remember when the last exclusive even came out for it. Halo 5? I think...yeah I'm pretty sure it's Halo 5.

I know, right? I was just about to write the same thing.

I bought an Xbox One in about April of 2015. I have the Halo MCC, Destiny, Halo 5, and Sunset Overdrive (which came with the console). I have not bought a game for it since H5. I decided to buy a PS4 on a whim, and I already have more games for that system.

I think that part of the "problem" is that most Xbox games these days are playable on PC, too, which is fantastic for me, but it just makes my Xbox look like a bit of a paperweight. I'd love to buy more games for the system, but between my PC and the PS4, what is the point? And its not like Xbox has anything in the pipeline that is going to shake the market.

Halo Wars 2 came out with the enthusiasm of a light cough, and Gears 4 was like when you think you're going to sneeze, but then nothing comes out. What Xbox needs is either: Halo 6 to fire on all cylinders, and make people actually care about Halo again, OR, for Microsoft to come out with some groundbreaking new IP. Other than that, I cant really see the Xbox getting out of its hole, this gen.

I don't even think that the Scorpio can do much to help, really. I mean, its all well and good that the games will be all shiny looking, but if there is still nothing decent to play on it, then no one is going to care.

EDIT: To be fair, Im not too sure that the Switch will fair any better. Sure, we got Breath of the Wild, and everybody is collectively losing their shit over that, but soon people will ask the question "Well, what next?" and then realise that it is just a barren wasteland.

 

[Yoshi178]

Can I take a moment to find it funny that the Xbox 1 doesn't even have a dog in this argument? I find it hilarious if I'm honest because that system is a colossal turd box. I can't even remember when the last exclusive even came out for it. Halo 5? I think...yeah I'm pretty sure it's Halo 5.

no one gives enough of a shit about Xbox to bother arguing about them.


Nintendo vs Sony is a war that has raged on for decades now though. Sony took Segas place on the battlefield. :3

 

[Phoenixmgs_v1legacy]

again, this phrase you just said to me:

I would rate all those games a 5/10 or lower. So, trying to say Breath of the Wild is amazing because it scored a 98 is a rather meaningless statement.

is an entirely subjective statement so again, yes, i can easily say the exact same thing about those games Johnny posted.

And, AGAIN, NO YOU CANNOT because you haven't played them (I haven't played them all either). It's just like I can't say the new Zelda is 5/10 either.

Funny how you choose to ignore all the facts that Sony is arguably the best publisher in the whole industry, not just better than Nintendo. I never even thought about Sony like that until my last post. What publisher is even close to Sony when considering variety, quantity, and quality? It's definitely not EA, Ubisoft, Activision, or Nintendo.