Explain teenage mothers to me

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mbug

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I suppose its a combination of a few things.
One thing is that the anti-abortion basically states that your a devil if you get an abortion, stating that "first-trimester fetuses can feel pain" and you would be killing a living creature. Although which these young ladies don't know is that yes it can react to trauma, but the fetus can not feel pain because it would need the neocortex part of the brain (which is the part of the brain that feels pain and other senses) which develops much later in the pregnancy.
The media portrays all these women posing for magazines pregnant and its a beautiful thing truly, i will agree to that, but, i wish these young ladies would realize they are NOT Miranda Kerr and are NOT in a position 9 times out of 10 to have a child.
Also women have a part of them that longs for a child (most do anyway...). The maternal instinct seems to hit in. As the saying goes, "a woman becomes a mother once she finds out she is pregnant but a man becomes a father when he sees his child".
People feel guilty if they abort, it is a traumatic thing for a woman to decide because lets face it, one of the main roles as a female is our position to give birth, we are told that from a very young age.
Why someone decides to keep the child? I can not pin point it for you, it is something an individual has to decide themselves. I personally am at a loss why anyone under the age of 25 believes they have the ability to care for a child when they are still only just able to care for themselves. At that we go through so many changes i can not comprehend what would poses a person to keep the child...
 

Robert Ewing

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I'm sure there are a lot of reasons.

I met one girl who had a baby at 15, she said that she didn't care what anybody thought of her, or how her life turned out. She just wanted a baby more than anything else, and yes she is a fucking state now, but she doesn't even care...

So perhaps it can be a massively huge psychological thing...

But mostly i'm sure it's just sluts that accidentally get pregnant, and then use the unborn baby as an excuse to receive benefit money, praise from her peers, a speed ticket into adulthood, a free house, to stop her pimp of a boyfriend impregnating other women when he goes out for a binge drink with the lads, and to impose her way of life on to her very, very unfortunate child. Most teenage mothers here in Britain anyway are as dimwitted, and anti-social as their future child will most likely be. They are the scum on the shoe of the bottom of the lower classes, gracefully stanking up the streets with their hair pulled back so far that it smooths out the wrinkles they have received from chain smoking and excessive cocaine use, and their jeggings so tight that you can see every cellulite vain that is humanly possible to push out on a human arse, and you can bet your bottom dollar that they will either have drawn on eyebrows, a Monroe piercing, think classical music is S-Club 7, and will claim that music talent shows were the best idea since the free chlamydia screenings at the local clinics. That's what it's like here in Britain anyway.
 

Merkavar

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well this is what i heard from a early 20 girl.

she was walking past liquour land and there were a bunch of teenage girls all with young kids of there own. they started harassing the girl walking past cause apparently she has a baron womb cause according to thisgroup of people if you haventhad 2 kids by 18 you must be sterile or something els is wrong with you.

so maybe its peer pressure to have kids.

i dont really care when you have kids as long as you can support them but alot of people cant. last i heard people ve kids just for the centerlink money. and having kids with different fathers gets you more money.
 

Sansha

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Merkavar said:
well this is what i heard from a early 20 girl.

she was walking past liquour land and there were a bunch of teenage girls all with young kids of there own. they started harassing the girl walking past cause apparently she has a baron womb cause according to thisgroup of people if you haventhad 2 kids by 18 you must be sterile or something els is wrong with you.
That sounds like projected bullying, making themselves feel better about their fucked up situations. Being outside a liquor store isn't helping.
 

DarkArk

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What I find interesting is how many people get angry at teens for wanting a baby when the society won't support that, rather than getting angry at the society that makes it not the best idea.

No moral judgement here mind you.
 

Sansha

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DarkArk said:
What I find interesting is how many people get angry at teens for wanting a baby when the society won't support that, rather than getting angry at the society that makes it not the best idea.

No moral judgement here mind you.
Usually when society says something is a bad idea, it's because it is.

For most cases, teenagers do not make good parents. They don't have the cognitive judgement, mature sense of responsibility and basic assets that are required for properly raising a child.
 

DarkArk

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Sansha said:
Usually when society says something is a bad idea, it's because it is.

For most cases, teenagers do not make good parents. They don't have the cognitive judgement, mature sense of responsibility and basic assets that are required for properly raising a child.
And yet it was the norm throughout much of the history of the world, and was considered a good thing by those societies.

And why don't they have those assets? Because society does not expect them to be parents and so does not provide them with the necessary tools. It used to be a hell of a lot easier getting pregnant at 17 if it was expected that the father would get married to you and could get a decent paying lumber job or some such.
 

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Robert Ewing said:
I'm sure there are a lot of reasons.

I met one girl who had a baby at 15, she said that she didn't care what anybody thought of her, or how her life turned out. She just wanted a baby more than anything else, and yes she is a fucking state now, but she doesn't even care...

So perhaps it can be a massively huge psychological thing...

But mostly i'm sure it's just sluts that accidentally get pregnant, and then use the unborn baby as an excuse to receive benefit money, praise from her peers, a speed ticket into adulthood, a free house, to stop her pimp of a boyfriend impregnating other women when he goes out for a binge drink with the lads, and to impose her way of life on to her very, very unfortunate child. Most teenage mothers here in Britain anyway are as dimwitted, and anti-social as their future child will most likely be. They are the scum on the shoe of the bottom of the lower classes, gracefully stanking up the streets with their hair pulled back so far that it smooths out the wrinkles they have received from chain smoking and excessive cocaine use, and their jeggings so tight that you can see every cellulite vain that is humanly possible to push out on a human arse, and you can bet your bottom dollar that they will either have drawn on eyebrows, a Monroe piercing, think classical music is S-Club 7, and will claim that music talent shows were the best idea since the free chlamydia screenings at the local clinics. That's what it's like here in Britain anyway.
i'm going to go ahead and assume that all of this information was not included in the tourism pamphlet? Maybe I should vacation in Madrid instead...
 

Belaam

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Empty lives, looking for something to fill it?

I really can't imagine. When I was a teen, I had all these things I wanted to do before settling down: college, hitchhike/explore the US, night clubs, commercial fishing in Alaska, visit Europe, and just sort of wander around, finding myself and figuring out what I wanted from life before finding a partner to share that with me.

And, well, I did all that.

And then had kids.
 

Sansha

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DarkArk said:
Sansha said:
Usually when society says something is a bad idea, it's because it is.

For most cases, teenagers do not make good parents. They don't have the cognitive judgement, mature sense of responsibility and basic assets that are required for properly raising a child.
And yet it was the norm throughout much of the history of the world, and was considered a good thing by those societies.

And why don't they have those assets? Because society does not expect them to be parents and so does not provide them with the necessary tools. It used to be a hell of a lot easier getting pregnant at 17 if it was expected that the father would get married to you and could get a decent paying lumber job or some such.
Modern society wants children to be children and to not have to tie their young lives down by getting married and having children of their own so soon.

Society has changed. Matured. Teenagers are no longer pressured to find marriage and have children to carry on the family, and get whatever job they can get to live. You no longer *have* to be a maid, farmer, lumberjack or quarry carrier to support your family, you can make your own lives.

It's better this way, and modern teenagers should NOT be parents.
 

Vault101

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DarkArk said:
Sansha said:
Usually when society says something is a bad idea, it's because it is.

For most cases, teenagers do not make good parents. They don't have the cognitive judgement, mature sense of responsibility and basic assets that are required for properly raising a child.
And yet it was the norm throughout much of the history of the world, and was considered a good thing by those societies.

And why don't they have those assets? Because society does not expect them to be parents and so does not provide them with the necessary tools. It used to be a hell of a lot easier getting pregnant at 17 if it was expected that the father would get married to you and could get a decent paying lumber job or some such.
yeah? it was the norm because socitey was structured to allow it

in a tribal culture your already set, and after you might get married off early in the other societies

and when you say "provided with the tools" teenage parents should just be given all that stuff for free? theres welfare for that, and everyone can see how awsome thats works /sarcasm

also "back then" what you mentioned was the reality..and the only relaity for some women..thease days I have the godamn choice to do what I want

usually "teenage mothers" only problem isnt the fact they had a kid...somtimes they are fuck ups..harsh I know but youll fidn many will agree
 

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it might not be the case, but I think one girl I know who got pregnant as a teen did it so her parents would start accepting her boyfriend as something more than a no-good bum.
right now she's happy with her baby and the successful guy she married after dumping the no-good bum.
moral of the story is that teens are stupid and the best you can hope for is that they realize how stupid they are and correct the situation to the best of their ability.
 

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Explain Teenage Mothers? Well you see,if a teenage girl has intercourse and gets pregnant and then gives birth to a child, then she is now a "Teenage Mother" I hope this clears up any confusion you had.
 

Vault101

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liveslowdiefast said:
GASP people want to take a unconventional path with their lives! how could they intend on raising a child without proper finacial security, oh lord people not conforming to your view of how to spend their lives. THEY MUST BE STOPPED!
you obviously have never seen or experienced the

bogan/trailer trash/chav thing have you?

lack of education, welfare dependencay all other kinds of stuff

fuck ups generally

can it work? yeah but Id wager thats the exception to the norm
 

Sansha

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Somonah said:
This might be a crazy notion for you to get you head around, but bare with me.


Not everyone is you. some people shockingly are different to you. Just because your small brain can not understand why someone would want a baby at a young age, doesn't make it a bad thing.
I'm pretty sure it's a bad thing, if not simply irresponsible and irrational.
 

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Kahnmir said:
I also think the hormones in our food and water may be affecting these young women's drives and making their "baby fever" worse. I mean, did you know that the average age of "Menarche" (first period) went from like 21 to 13 over the course of the past 100 years? Something caused that, and I'm not sure its a good thing.
I feel that's a little exaggerated around 100 years ago menarche was probably occurring on average around 16-17. But that's on average, menarche likely occured at 13 in wealthier familes as the biggest influence on the time menarche has probably been improved nutrition and availability of food. So yes something did cause that and it was a good thing.
 

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Sansha said:
Modern society wants children to be children and to not have to tie their young lives down by getting married and having children of their own so soon.

Society has changed. Matured. Teenagers are no longer pressured to find marriage and have children to carry on the family, and get whatever job they can get to live. You no longer *have* to be a maid, farmer, lumberjack or quarry carrier to support your family, you can make your own lives.

It's better this way, and modern teenagers should NOT be parents.
Teenagers are not children by any stretch of the imagination. I'd rather we went back to the idea of teens being young adults rather than teens being large children. It would help them transition into becoming adults much better than trying to drag out their childhood as long as possible.

Yet for the people who are in that situation, it wasn't the worst one. Sure it isn't ideal, but certainly seems better to be able to support oneself with a reasonably well-paying job than the modern alternative we have, no? People getting pregnant when they are biologically capable of doing so isn't going to go away ever.
 

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manic_depressive13 said:
I don't know. I generally can't understand why people willingly have children.
Isn't that what people are kind of programmed to do. Proliferation/survival of the species and all.

off-topic:

This sounds like something from Elder Scrolls lore. Maybe Lord Inglip is a member.
 

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Vault101 said:
and when you say "provided with the tools" teenage parents should just be given all that stuff for free? theres welfare for that, and everyone can see how awsome thats works /sarcasm
I'm not talking about welfare. I'm talking about the ability to get a non-skilled job that paid reasonably well right out of high school. Those existed once, and I'd rather they come back.