Facebook message saves suicidal boy

[Pimppeter2]

Telling someone that you're gonna kill yourself is the same as crying,
HELP! I HATE THIS CRAP, SOMEONE, JUST HELP ME FOR GODS SAKE!

That's what it is.

You are right on so many levels

Anyway, thats kind of embarrasing for em

 

[Valiance]

If I was going to kill myself, I wouldn't tell anyone beforehand, but that's just me.

This, this, a thousand times this, if you want to actually accomplish what you set out to do, don't tell them about it. If you want to cause drama and see if people give half a damn about you, you tell people about it.

If you're on the fence about it, well, I don't know...

 

[Novania]

Christ, if the boy wants to die then let him die!

If I was that kid no one would have any idea how mad I would be at the girl from Maryland.

Yeah, I wonder what his reaction to her will be...

 

[Kiutu]

Generally when people tell another person they're about to commit suicide its because they're seeking attention, not because they want to end their own life. Arguably this kid was ODing on drugs when they found him but still, it seems more like a cry for attention than a case of overbearing depression.

What an ignorant way to think of it. Lack of attention can be rather depressing as you feel alone and uncared for. You can think what you want, but so can I and really its this kind of thinking that bothers me. Maybe sometimes people really are just saying it for the hell of it, but even if not, it should not have to only matter whet its about to happen (the suicide) but at any point on the path that could lead to it. Wouldnt it be better if no one ever thought of killing themselves because instead of people not caring till the last second, people acually gave a shit? Im not saying everyone has to care about everyone, I know when I hear of a horrible death I dont cry over it if I do not know them personally, but if you do know them even a bit you should atleast try to care a bit even if it is by paqssing them onto someone who really does as that would be more beneficial anyways.

 

[hannahdonno]

If I was going to kill myself, I wouldn't tell anyone beforehand, but that's just me.

Well when you realise how much effort it took to find him, it was obvious the boy did not expect his friend from a different continent to come to his rescue.

 

[TriggerUnhappy]

QFT

I get sick and tired of hearing about all these "poor teenagers", living in developed nations where the hardest thing that they have to endure up with is the kids teasing them at school, or their parents' divorce, or their girlfriend/boyfriend dumps them. Take a good look through our violence ridden history and you will see that these years are a fucking cake walk compared to what came before. For those that suffer from clinical depression, you have my sympathies, as I have struggled with continual bouts of it since I was 12, but there are services and medications dedicated to helping you. I have managed thus far to deal with it without medication or counselling. One of the best ways I've found to snap myself out of my self-pity/depression cycle is to compare my livcing conditions with those that affect other people around the world. I live in a developed nation, my worries are nothing when compared with people who are fleeing their homes because someone wants to kill their entire family because of their ethnic background or their religion, or living in an overcrowded refugee camp fighting others for scraps of food.
There is another way to deal with it, but that is an affliction I would not wish on anyone.

Hate saying it, but basically this. ^

One thing I can never stand in my school is listening to all of the "emo" kids whining about how hard of a life they have because of how some kid likes to mess with them, or their parents said something mean to them the day before. Then when I tell them about all of the starving people in developing nations and even what a shit life many immigrants that come here have, they just sit and whine about how I "don't understand their pain." You know, the pain of being a middle class white kid...

*Sigh* Nice story and all, but sometimes you do wish they had gone to 4chan rather than Facebook as Sennet said.

 

[Schema]

You can compare - it's called empathy. Esepecially now, considering this is the age of information, and you can have all the world's troubles at your fingertips in hundredths of a second.

empathy (noun)
Identification with and understanding of another's situation, feelings, and motives.

If you're capable of reading a book, newspaper, or watching the television and understanding what's happening, then you are capable of empathy.

There are people who are genuinely afflicted by depression or other mental illnesses, and there are those that induce or 'fake it' for the sympathy pay-off from their friends and family. The sympathy-seekers are to who I was refering to in my post, because they are in control, whereas the former have no control over their affliction - sometimes sub-consciously.

http://changingminds.org/explanations/behaviors/games/poor_me_game.htm

Life is degrees of suffering, with very rare moments of given or 'free' happiness. Your fear of death is something I share (the affliction I mentioned at the end of my 1st post), but I use it to motivate me to get the utmost out of every waking moment, even if it's a bad day.

I have to massively and respectfully disagree with you. Depression and empathy are not even remotely mutually exclusive. Other people also have shit lives, therefore mine is better by default? If it works for you, great, but you can't bandy it about like a magic bullet.

I don't believe that anyone who seriously attempts suicide is not suffering with a mental illness, and I've never come across someone "pretending" to be depressed. I have to ask how you can tell? Maybe I've got you wrong and you are in fact a qualified psychiatrist, in which case my apologies.

The boy in the story obviously was making a genuine attempt and just saying goodbye to a friend, given the unlikeliness of what transpired. Hopefully the kid can make the most of his second chance, not a lot of people get them.

 

[Jzolr0708]

Well, I'd totally be thanking that girl, and the police, if I were that boys parents. Gj police!

 

[IsoNeko]

An upbeat story about cooperation in saving a human life? Well fuck me sideways.

Prototype thread OP is right

 

[Captinchunk]

I would be pissed at that girl, I mean I'm trusting you with my suicide note and then you go and rat me out to the cops?

Unless this was just a cry for attention, then he probably got exactly what he wanted.

Sooo much the wrong view on this but at the same time so right haha

 

[nikomas1]

And I do HATE (Forgive my wordings please, but that's how I feel) people like you (not you, but that way of thinking). Compare myself to those that have it even worse you say, tell me, how does that help me?

This is also a subject I feel strongly for, and I know damned well what I am talking about. You can come from a perfectly "normal" family and still have a crappy life. Where you are born doesn't have a thing to do with it, because, wherever you are, there are still happy and sad people, poor and "rich".

Hell, the only reason I didn't commit suicide is because I'm a coward, a huge freaking coward with a fear of death. I've had plenty of reasons to "End it all", one being that I've been bullied since 1st grade, I'm 16 now, 1st ring in gymnasium (Our highschool, of sorts) and life is looking up.

Point is, you can't compare a developed country to a "3rd world" one, since you start life with different settings, possibility's, and, well, to put it in other terms, "You can't expect a peasant to have the life of a king", You have to make the best of what life throws at you. Life threw me some hard bricks filled with depression and bullshit, I'm still alive.

You can compare - it's called empathy. Esepecially now, considering this is the age of information, and you can have all the world's troubles at your fingertips in hundredths of a second.

empathy (noun)
Identification with and understanding of another's situation, feelings, and motives.

If you're capable of reading a book, newspaper, or watching the television and understanding what's happening, then you are capable of empathy.

There are people who are genuinely afflicted by depression or other mental illnesses, and there are those that induce or 'fake it' for the sympathy pay-off from their friends and family. The sympathy-seekers are to who I was refering to in my post, because they are in control- sometimes sub-consciously, whereas the former have no control over their affliction.

http://changingminds.org/explanations/behaviors/games/poor_me_game.htm

Life is degrees of suffering, with very rare moments of given or 'free' happiness. Your fear of death is something I share (the affliction I mentioned at the end of my 1st post), but I use it to motivate me to get the utmost out of every waking moment, even if it's a bad day.

EDIT: Also Sympathy-Seekers make it hard to distinguish between the two.

And I had 2 really good mates who suicided, and they there was no indication that both had been dealing with depression, both hid it exceptionally well until they killed themselves.

Didn't I already state that I know all about this? Well then, it's time to counter.

I know what empathy is, and I know that I lack a great deal of it, and I like it this way, makes me not think about stuff that needs no thought.

Secondly, I know all about depression, and extreme sadness. I have a problem with it, I can instantly go from happy to depressed over trivial things such as, I brought my 360 from my dads home to my mums over vacation, with my new copy of RE5, I forgot both my controllers, no co-op fun for me and me friend. I'm not saying it's the end of the world or anything, and I think it's rather silly, but I know what depression is, and it shouldn't be something like that.

The difference between a guy who wants attention and someone who is really depressed is that the former makes it know, the latter is just, well, depressed. I'm the latter.

I still think empathy is something useless, Jonas (My bully for many, many years) better hope I never get a hold of a gun and his new address, not joking...

 

[JWAN]

An upbeat story about cooperation in saving a human life? Well fuck me sideways.

mustache on or off?

+1 brownie points for whoever gets that reference
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I am surprised it made it to the press, for a second their I thought it was going to be morphed into a destructive statement about the interwebz

 

[Captinchunk]

An upbeat story about cooperation in saving a human life? Well fuck me sideways.

mustache on or off?

+1 brownie points for whoever gets that reference
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I am surprised it made it to the press, for a second their I thought it was going to be morphed into a destructive statement about the interwebz

Not got a clue on the ref booooot
I thought it was gunna be some depressing story but its (kinda) happy

I do despise people who are "depressed" and go on and on and on about it clearly for attention. As someone has said when your depressed you won't talk about how your feeling, hell i'd be shocked if you talked to anyone i sure as hell didn't.
I have no problem with people that are depressed or upset for whatever reason i just don't want people whining like little bitches how much their life sucks when its quite clear they have it better than most others. That shit annoys me.

Now ffs someone get me a beer XD

 

[Deguasser]

This is just sort of a dumb thing to do. If you're going to kill yourself you don't tell anyone unless your planning for them to save you. LOL

 

[nohorsetown]

Hmm, I dunno how I feel about this. I'm glad that when I obsessed about suicide, "back in the day", no-one called the cops. I would have had a lot of awful rehab shit and nasty publicity to deal with. It might have made me actually do it. It's important to have good non-overseas friends, I guess. Get by with a little help from 'em, and all that.

Still, good on her for (probably) doing the right thing.

 

[StarStruckStrumpets]

That is why Facebook is useful!

Aside from being poked every five minutes by your dad who has nothing to do with life apart from work and the internet.

 

[heaventorn]

mustache on or off?

+1 brownie points for whoever gets that reference
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I am surprised it made it to the press, for a second their I thought it was going to be morphed into a destructive statement about the interwebz

I registered just to say SeaLab 2021.

 

[manicfoot]

And I do HATE (Forgive my wordings please, but that's how I feel) people like you (not you, but that way of thinking). Compare myself to those that have it even worse you say, tell me, how does that help me?

This is also a subject I feel strongly for, and I know damned well what I am talking about. You can come from a perfectly "normal" family and still have a crappy life. Where you are born doesn't have a thing to do with it, because, wherever you are, there are still happy and sad people, poor and "rich".

Hell, the only reason I didn't commit suicide is because I'm a coward, a huge freaking coward with a fear of death. I've had plenty of reasons to "End it all", one being that I've been bullied since 1st grade, I'm 16 now, 1st ring in gymnasium (Our highschool, of sorts) and life is looking up.

Point is, you can't compare a developed country to a "3rd world" one, since you start life with different settings, possibility's, and, well, to put it in other terms, "You can't expect a peasant to have the life of a king", You have to make the best of what life throws at you. Life threw me some hard bricks filled with depression and bullshit, I'm still alive.

You can compare - it's called empathy. Esepecially now, considering this is the age of information, and you can have all the world's troubles at your fingertips in hundredths of a second.

empathy (noun)
Identification with and understanding of another's situation, feelings, and motives.

If you're capable of reading a book, newspaper, or watching the television and understanding what's happening, then you are capable of empathy.

There are people who are genuinely afflicted by depression or other mental illnesses, and there are those that induce or 'fake it' for the sympathy pay-off from their friends and family. The sympathy-seekers are to who I was refering to in my post, because they are in control- sometimes sub-consciously, whereas the former have no control over their affliction.

http://changingminds.org/explanations/behaviors/games/poor_me_game.htm

Life is degrees of suffering, with very rare moments of given or 'free' happiness. Your fear of death is something I share (the affliction I mentioned at the end of my 1st post), but I use it to motivate me to get the utmost out of every waking moment, even if it's a bad day.

EDIT: Also Sympathy-Seekers make it hard to distinguish between the two.

And I had 2 really good mates who suicided, and they there was no indication that both had been dealing with depression, both hid it exceptionally well until they killed themselves.

Empathy and depression can be linked. I'm an example of this. If I think about all the people in the world with no food, all the orphans who's parents were killed in a war, I get depressed BECAUSE I feel bad for them. Last year I attended the funeral of my aunt. I had only met her a few times in my life, and I bawled my eyes out in the church out of empathy for those who did know her. I was depressed for days after as well.
Depression is different for everyone and no universal rule can be applied to it. What you say may work for you and other people with logical minds, but it won't work for everyone because depression can be a very illogical thing.