Fall of the U.S.?
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I dont know, the UK as a whole pretty much makes nothing it's all service based and with most of that centered around london and one or two other big cities. In terms of economy England would I think carry on exactly the same as it does now, there wouldnt be the 4 billion a year subsidiary of Scotland, but in terms of GDP 4 billion is nothing.
Military would be the same as the old regiments (such as royal irish) are made up of people from mostly England and ex colonies.
I would like the union to stay but only if people are happy, it seems that all we here on the news from Scotland is that they hate the English and want independance...if they genuinely want to vanish into the political and economic desspot then I suppose they should do that. The only negative impact for England would be culturally it would be a little bit less interesting..ie who are all those hairy ginger people up there, why are they wearing skirts and screaming abuse at you?
But yeah politically England would just take the spot of the UK on the un security council, nato etc.. I cant see Obama going to have meetings with the PM of Scotland over international issues etc it would still be England
Seems a sad way to go but looks like in about 10 years the place will be seperate.
Military would be the same as the old regiments (such as royal irish) are made up of people from mostly England and ex colonies.
I would like the union to stay but only if people are happy, it seems that all we here on the news from Scotland is that they hate the English and want independance...if they genuinely want to vanish into the political and economic desspot then I suppose they should do that. The only negative impact for England would be culturally it would be a little bit less interesting..ie who are all those hairy ginger people up there, why are they wearing skirts and screaming abuse at you?
But yeah politically England would just take the spot of the UK on the un security council, nato etc.. I cant see Obama going to have meetings with the PM of Scotland over international issues etc it would still be England
Seems a sad way to go but looks like in about 10 years the place will be seperate.
I think you are missing my point. Of course people have religious beliefs, non religious people have beliefs in God, or gods. How those personal beliefs are allowed to be held is not for the government to dictate according to my opinion, and according to the constitutional protections of our 1st amendment. I will paraphrase you and restate: It's a great idea in practice. Why do you think the U.S. has so many religions, denominations, cults, and spiritual practices? It is because of the free market of religious ideas that are allowed to thrive because the government does not play favorites by prescribing you go to a certain church exclusively.KeyMaster45 said:
The Fundamentalism that I believe Batsamaritan: and I were discussing are the Evangelical Christians who would outlaw anything but their narrow interpretation of who God is, which is the true God, etc. The courts that decide the controversies you allude to do come to a judge's ruling do they not? And that ruling is expected to be in line with the Constitution.
The freedom that I so love in the U.S. would with out doubt be fractured along sectarian, religious battle lines if the 1st Amendment were repealed. We all have our religious prejudices, the Constitution protects our right to have them, while ensuring we don't infringe on other's rights.
Yes! I was trying to figure out the exact reason that I dislike the idea of America (Not the american people as such. I know a lot of them, and most of them are very nice people).hmar9333 said:
Ignorance and arrogance is exactly right.
The thing that annoys me the most though, is when someone tries to force their view of the world onto me as if it is the only right one. This is absolutely the main reason that I dislike America and fundamentalist religious people (Especially the christian ones. They always want to "Save" you. The muslim ones at least have the decency to just try to kill you).
And then your economy collapses into third world levels when no one else will lend you money...ZephrC said:
Edit: Apparently I clicked to reply to the wrong person. Ah well. Alright so 13 Trillion is still plenty though. I think cut backs would do wonders to pay down that debt. I'd start with reducing the military, since the dick waving contest with Russia is over and the need for so much new hardware is pretty much gone.
ive been thinking the same thing about pretty much for a while but if the US breaks up i dont really have to worry ill still live in what would become new Ireland aka Boston
You guys are killing me with this Texas secession talk. Texas CANNOT secede EVER no matter what Rick Perry or any other uneducated person claims. The Supreme Court decided in Texas v. White that the Constitution does not allow states to secede, especially Texas. So to repeat, Texas cannot secede, no matter what anyone says, ever.
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That's a pretty silly map.
It only confirms that this is a prediction coming from a guy who knows nothing about the US at all, except which ends are closest to the other countries/continents/unions he names.
Montana, and Wyoming, as bastions of Right America, would never party with the socialistic likes of Canada. Colorado has way too large of a hispanic population these days to not join Mexico, and same with Nevada. Utah would likely isolate itself from everyone, since they're just that different. There's a few problems I see just off the top of my head, I would dissect the whole thing, but it would continue the exercise of pointless, meaningless speculation, and a silly exercise in stereotyping by state (which is kinda fun!)
There's no indication the US will splinter any time soon. Simply no reason, no fomentation, no motivation...whether we'll someday fall as the supreme superpower, now that's a different story!
It only confirms that this is a prediction coming from a guy who knows nothing about the US at all, except which ends are closest to the other countries/continents/unions he names.
Montana, and Wyoming, as bastions of Right America, would never party with the socialistic likes of Canada. Colorado has way too large of a hispanic population these days to not join Mexico, and same with Nevada. Utah would likely isolate itself from everyone, since they're just that different. There's a few problems I see just off the top of my head, I would dissect the whole thing, but it would continue the exercise of pointless, meaningless speculation, and a silly exercise in stereotyping by state (which is kinda fun!)
There's no indication the US will splinter any time soon. Simply no reason, no fomentation, no motivation...whether we'll someday fall as the supreme superpower, now that's a different story!
Igor Panarin is a funny guy. He made his claims a long time ago and there is no one that takes him seriously.
The United States would be more likely to break up along ethnic lines. Compare these two graphics:
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Actually, that's not true either since there's a fairly weak correlation between ethnic diversity and civil war.
The United States would be more likely to break up along ethnic lines. Compare these two graphics:
Actually, that's not true either since there's a fairly weak correlation between ethnic diversity and civil war.
I don't agree on anything he does, except for keeping our troops in the Middle East.Rainboq said:
LolReagan.Skullkid4187 said:
The guy for the job is Teddy Roosevelt; now there was a man who wasn't afraid to carry a big stick and ***** slap people when they needed ***** slapping.
I think way too many of us are Patriotic enough to still want our own country that we wouldn't let any form of divying up occur. We have it way too good here and we'd fight tooth and nail. I'm no economist but I think if we faced economic collapse we'd just cancel out debts, let some go completely, reorganize shipping, replace old companies with new ones, whatever we needed to do. If humans are good for anything, it's adapting.
Had another thought. If other countries tried to use our debts as leverage to annex some states or make us a protectorate we'd just use our solution to everything. I'll give you a hint, it starts with 'n' ends in 'e' and rhymes with duke. So maybe it won't be dwindling resources, rascism, political systems, or religious beliefs that starts World War III; it'll be debt collectors...hm, let me just go to the bank real quick, I just need to check on something.
Had another thought. If other countries tried to use our debts as leverage to annex some states or make us a protectorate we'd just use our solution to everything. I'll give you a hint, it starts with 'n' ends in 'e' and rhymes with duke. So maybe it won't be dwindling resources, rascism, political systems, or religious beliefs that starts World War III; it'll be debt collectors...hm, let me just go to the bank real quick, I just need to check on something.
Or.. we could just like, move Japan to near-ish Iceland and all is well, plus I can go to England when I want to then lol xDNickolai77 said:The EU and the UN are quite different things, both are instutions of political co-operation, only that the EU takes it to a deeper level. You'd need a "world union" if you want economic intergration with Japan.Pilkingtube said:..You mean the UN?Nickolai77 said:Heh, screw a European Union, we want a world union!!Pilkingtube said:I.. nobody seems to have pointed out that, the EU wouldn't want the US.. it's the EUROPEAN Union, Japan has as much of a chance as joining as a piece of the US does =/
I.. I want Japan to join the EU now, gief better trading relations plz