Fallout Canada???

[CloggedDonkey]

I don't think that an entire fallout game set in Canada would be too fun, for two reasons:

1. most of the cities are only recognizable to the people who live there, unlike quite a few American cities(you can't tell me you don't know what New York looks like).

2. An expansion pack(if a big one) would be fine, the same could be said of Chicago, and I would love to have one set here.

Not that it's a bad idea. it just wouldn't make for a full game. it would make for an excellent expansion pack, but not a full game.

 

[BlindMessiah94]

I know what you mean. It has always bothered me that everything takes place in the states. I know that they are a large demographic but how about some stories that are told in Canada?

How about some that don't depict us as living in igloos or chopping wood or saying "eh" all the time?

Would it be so wrong for a tv show, movie, or video game to take place in Vancouver? How about Ottawa? They are large cities that are known.

I think people have a mentality that Canada is just boring or something. Like there couldn't be some murder mystery/serial killer on the loose in our country cause we are all too busy drinking beer and eating bacon.

dude were mostly jealous that you get your own damn kind of bacon

So what you're saying is you would play a game about bacon?

 

[Randomanom]

As a side note didn;t the maple leafs win the cup in the 1950-51 season? never again yes i know shut up, just thought it was a neat bit of trivia for my hockey hall of fame mission.

 

[jmd102993]

I know what you mean. It has always bothered me that everything takes place in the states. I know that they are a large demographic but how about some stories that are told in Canada?

How about some that don't depict us as living in igloos or chopping wood or saying "eh" all the time?

Would it be so wrong for a tv show, movie, or video game to take place in Vancouver? How about Ottawa? They are large cities that are known.

I think people have a mentality that Canada is just boring or something. Like there couldn't be some murder mystery/serial killer on the loose in our country cause we are all too busy drinking beer and eating bacon.

dude were mostly jealous that you get your own damn kind of bacon

So what you're saying is you would play a game about bacon?

would and should

 

[Random Argument Man]

This deserves a sniper

I was about to post Kent Paul from Vice City, but you can't play the guy.


Oh well, I don't think that GTA could go somewhere else other than London now. If you're going to take references to mobster/gangster movies, it's pretty much all that's left.

 

[Julianking93]

I don't care where they put it, but I'd love it to take place in a snowy environment rather than the baron desert wastelands.

 

[Internet Kraken]

There's no need for all Fallout games to be set in America.

Yes there is. Many of the reoccurring character, themes, and factions are tied to the American setting. Making a Fallout game outside of America would throw all of this away. The company Vault-tec is one the first things many players would think of when you mention Fallout. Outside of America, Vault-Tec would be completley absent. The games biggest icon would not be present. You can't say that wouldn't be a problem.

Yes, there is a certain tone to 1950's America that is emulated and parodied by the game.

But you'd be in a silly historical position to argue that other countries did not go through a similar "golden age" at one point or another. Actually, the modernisation (a process which included "Americanisation", which is exactly what it says on the tin) of the rest of the world is something that started in the early 20th Century.


So by the 1950's, most of the Allied nations from WWII were already emulating America in infrastructure (skyscrapers, high-rise buildings), cultural entertainment (movies and TV), and optimism (comic books and advertising from that time will remind you of the Pip-Boy) as much as possible, because it made economic sense to do so. It also made psychological sense as a way to forget the horrors of a "total war" that forced even civilians to work harder and struggle for the war effort. So we shouldn't rule out the Allied nations, or their colonies, as possibilities.

I may be wrong, but I don't think they did in the Fallout universe. Judging by what I remember from the intro to the first game, the European commonwealth fell apart long before the nuclear war due to a lack of supplies and infighting. So they were not in any sort of golden age. Other countries did not follow the same path as America, which is one of the reasons they are rarely mentioned. They had already fallen apart.

Not to mention, there may well be a need to change the setting, for audience empathy purposes, if ever the game market outside of America gets big enough to change the business focus. And that's already happening as China industrialises. Fallout: China (or perhaps even Fallout: India) may make little business sense now, but who knows - in 40 years, anything could happen.

Personally, I want to see a Fallout set in Australia. Just because I want to see the law suits that Mel Gibson fires at Bethesda for "copying" Mad Max. Though, it might get a bit depressing, seeing Sydney or Canberra in ruins. Those of us who are not American are missing a big part of the Fallout magic, which is to say, we don't get to see a city that we've likely been in or identify with in its post-apocalyptic state. So it's all a bit of a distanced experience unless it diversifies and tries other settings.

You're saying they should abandon all of the reoccurring themes of the game just to appeal to a larger audience. That would not be a good thing.

 

[BlindMessiah94]

I know what you mean. It has always bothered me that everything takes place in the states. I know that they are a large demographic but how about some stories that are told in Canada?

How about some that don't depict us as living in igloos or chopping wood or saying "eh" all the time?

Would it be so wrong for a tv show, movie, or video game to take place in Vancouver? How about Ottawa? They are large cities that are known.

I think people have a mentality that Canada is just boring or something. Like there couldn't be some murder mystery/serial killer on the loose in our country cause we are all too busy drinking beer and eating bacon.

dude were mostly jealous that you get your own damn kind of bacon

So what you're saying is you would play a game about bacon?

would and should

I'd imagine it would be an FPS called "Peter Jackson Presents: Skillet of Bacon 4: Modern Cuisine 2: The Official Game of the Movie"

You go around a World War 2 battlefield holding a slab of back bacon and cramming it down people's throats, scoring points for every soldier you feed.
There's also an advanced technique where you can move quicker by smoking the bacon while strafing. It's called wave-smoking, and only the l33t players do it.

Then you boycott the game when they announce there are no longer Dedicated Servers for XBL.

 

[BlumiereBleck]

Because all Fallout games take place in America, they arent just going to change it just because canada got annexed.

 

[Milo Windby]

I have to say that one of the arguments against a Canadian Fallout, wanting to see someplace that is familiar, is a bit off... Sure perhaps the Americans like that, but what about people living outside of the us? I have never been to Vegas, Never seen the real beauty of it... other then the bright lights you see in shows and movies and to me that is not showing me the true city that is Vegas. However, I still want to play it, even though its not a place I am familiar with. And I am sure others outside of the US don't care either... so why do the Americans care so much?

 

[Rornicus]

2. An expansion pack(if a big one) would be fine, the same could be said of Chicago, and I would love to have one set here.

Chitown (hometown WHAT!) would make a great setting for a Fallout game, but I fear that Fallout Tactics being set in the Midwest (yeah, it's in the middle) would put that locale on the back burner for future settings. I'd love to see it though.

Ok, back on to the topic:

I'm not opposed to a Fallout game in Canada. I don't think the argument about the golden age is a good enough one. As some other posts have said, a lot of the Allied countries from WWII developed along relatively the same lines post-war (I don't think is the case in the Fallout universe, but mostly in the case of Europe more than Canada). You could still get the Fallout vibe with a slightly different setting. And Canada, in all honesty, is only slightly different than America in terms of a setting.

But most of you seem to forget that the U.S. annexed Canada in the Fallout universe anyway, so it's really just all the US. Just further north. Might even get a Canadian rebel faction or something going on; trying to restore the Great White North to it's former glory. Could be a good plot line really.

 

[Sightless Wisdom]

Well it would be nice to see simply because I live in Canada, but the Fallout series is very much tied into the American theme. It wouldn't make sense to change the setting, but it would make a nice mod or something of the kind.

 

[Randomanom]

I don;t think there's a reason to assume that Vault-tec would be absent, there's no reason to assume they only did buisness within american boarders, they are a company not a government agency.

Yes i will also admit that reoccuring themes give a pleasant tone to a game but ever they can only last for so long before you yern for something new and unfornunatly or foruntaly i've reached that point where i need something new.

Also some people seem to be forgetting that fallout 3 isn;t the world of the 1950's it's the extention of the world if 1950's dream technology had become funtional and practical in our everyday life, ie the military bots, the hover cars, etc. Its the embodiment of the greatest dreams and fears of the 1950's mindset. and that mindset i don;t beleive is limited to the american boarders.
We already know the brotherhood operates in different areas and really toronto is an 8 hour drive from new york, it's easily feasable it got hit by a stray nuke or one that got shot down.

An expansion pack? i suppose i would be satisfied with a large (very large) expansion pack lol. i'm not foolish enough to think it would warrent a full game.

 

[MiracleOfSound]

No

The Fallout series has always, and should always, taken place in America. This is for a reason. The game's setting focuses around an exaggerated American gold age that was devastated by nuclear war.

Agreed.

Most of the humour in Fallout comes from satirising the aesthetics and values of 1950s America. If it didn't have that it wouldn't really be Fallout.

 

[The Random One]

While what that guy said up there about Fallout being essentially about Americana is right, but I'd still like to see a little more variety. I'm excited about the upcoming True Crime game just because it's set in Hong Kong, which is nothing like the US. (And also because while the first two games were bad, they had obvious potential and just weren't polished enough. But that's neither here nor there.)

Right after we get another British GTA game, guv'na

I'd be happy with the current ones. Why isn't GTA London '69 available for free on Rockstar's site like the first two games?

 

[DJ Lord Destructocon]

Or you could just set the game in Saskatchewan in the year 2010, since it's already a frozen wasteland...

OH SNAP!

But seriously, Canada just doesn't work as well as The US for a post-apocalyptic thing because we don't have as many people. All they would have to do is nuke along the St. Lawrence and that's half our country's popultaion gone. The rest of the country just isn't populated enough or it's too cold, survival wouldn't be interesting because nobody would even bother to glance at the the northern half or the territories, let alone nuke them. So let the Yankees have Fallout. Canadian ghouls would be too polite for you to have any fun killing them.

 

[Connosaurus Rex]

I want a fallout game in Boston!

Canada probably finds some way to be left alone during the nuke-Holocaust, because everyone loves them.

YES! TO BOTH!
Boston would be awesome with all our awesomeness and historical significances. Also with the commonwealth we would see an endless possibilities. Have they really started going forward again? Is the Charles River still dirty? Cleaner maybe (very possible)? I would LOVE to see the ability to "invent" weapons and such through technology in the MIT buildings.
Canada wouldn't be nuked just because it has no reason to be nuked. It would be slightly destroyed but nothing fun.

 

[Wolvaroo]

You could always play RIFTS [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rifts_%28role-playing_game%29]. Canada is pretty awesome in the post-appocolypse there. Though I admit the rules are kinda all-over the place compared to something more structured like d20 so it's best enjoyed loosely.

 

[Kuchinawa212]

Americans, Canadians, and everyone else out in the world, what do you think? Isn't it time for some veriaty?

No

The Fallout series has always, and should always, taken place in America. This is for a reason. The game's setting focuses around an exaggerated American gold age that was devastated by nuclear war. The fate of other areas of the world is ambiguous for a reason. Think of all the reoccurring themes that have been shown throughout the series. Many of these are heavily tied to the American setting.

While Canada is a bit more reasonable than, say, China, I still think the Fallout games should stick to America. At least, that's my opinion. I don't think there is any reason to change the setting just for the sake of variety, since there are already tons of varied landscapes and cities here in America.

However I wouldn't mind briefly vising Canada in something like DLC. I just don't want a whole game set there.

We may not agree about a certain 'Tales' game, but you pretty much took the words out of my mouth on this. Fallout's universe should stay in America.

 

[robb4rock6]

i support this idea (+100 exp)