Fallout New Vegas - basically the same as Fallout 3

[Daniel Armstrong]

Of course it looks the fucking same, its the same engine for chrissakes.

And you obviously haven't been paying any fucking attention to the changes in the SPECIAL, the skills, the speech system, the weapon system, the shooting system, the melee system, introduction of the re-introduction of the reputation system, the hundreds of ways to complete the main story, the complete removal of 'essential' characters and most children, and the weapon modding, and then the whole Hardcore Mode idea.

Get your facts straight before you dribble crap like this again.

I think people are entitled to an opinion to be fair.

I am aware of the changes to infrastructure of the game and obviously it will have a different story, play through, features etc. I'm talking about graphical representation; obviously the game is going to be running on the same engine, but I know a few games which use the same engine that have been able to push it further and further and produce products with different graphics, better animations etc. for example Half Life 2 managed to pull it off through the episodes and the same goes for Half Life 1 to Opposing Force, to Blue Shift etc.

The weapon system is generally the same, different weapons but the VATS system is still in play etc. they have just tweaked it same for the melee system, tweaking or improving what was already there doesn't make a sequel, it just improves upon what should have already been improved.

Plus I wouldn't be sucked into corporate propaganda, there obviously going to big up features larger than expected just like pre-release of Fallout 3, they apparently had hundreds of ways to take on the game, I fail to see more than 3 - Bad, Good and Neutral.

For the time being I'm going to keep a look out on the game, hopefully it is better than I expect as I like Fallout, but please don't sound the fanboy alarm when someone starts to get an opinion.

 

[Daniel Armstrong]

Its a sequel what did you expect?
the sequels i have seen just added new features and that is what they should be
if the developers of a sequel are going to totally remake a game might as well give it a different name
speaking of which, halo reach doesn't look that different from the other halos
which were fun

How about Half Life 1 to Half Life 2, that wasn't just 'new features' same goes for Killzone 1 to Killzone 2. The list goes on.

 

[lleihsad]

Well Obsidian said they were tightening up the real time shooting controls. If that's true it'd easily be enough to set the game apart for me, as I felt the combat somewhat lacking in 3. More places to explore and more fun shooty times would be instant win for me.

That worries me - Obsidian has an awful track record when it comes to the mechanics of their games.

 

[Ldude893]

Lets see:
-Same Interface
-Same Combat System
-Same Pip Boy (I think)
-Same dialogue system

Yep, it's pretty much the same.

 

[walls of cetepedes]

...but please don't sound the fanboy alarm when someone starts to get an opinion.

I'm not. You're just the guy who happened to be the last in the long line of people stating opinions without any evidence.

And if you'd put all of that in your OP, I wouldn't have had a problem.

 

[Daniel Armstrong]

Yes Nitty. I'm just sick of these ignorant tools clamouring about how "Its just the same game D:". Do your research, read about the new features, and shut the fuck up.

Don't call me an 'ignorant fool' for having opinion, that just makes you narrow minded.

I'm not. You're just the guy who happened to be the last in the long line of people stating opinions without any evidence.

And if you'd put all of that in your OP, I wouldn't have had a problem.

You don't need evidence to support opinions, but you do need evidence to support facts, in which case I would have posted the E3 videos etc. trailers, and past promises from Devs from Fallout 3, especially with Obsidian track record of failing mechanics and there nasty habit for attempting to build up hype and disappoint.

 

[Nitpicker of the Wastes]

I am aware of the changes to infrastructure of the game and obviously it will have a different story, play through, features etc. I'm talking about graphical representation; obviously the game is going to be running on the same engine, but I know a few games which use the same engine that have been able to push it further and further and produce products with different graphics, better animations etc. for example Half Life 2 managed to pull it off through the episodes and the games goes for Half Life 1 to Opposing Force, to Blue Shift etc.

For the time being I'm going to keep a look out on the game, hopefully it is better than I expect as I like Fallout, but please don't sound the fanboy alarm when someone starts to get an opinion.

So you're dismissing the game as bad just because the devs haven't improved on the graphics, when they've had just 2 years to make an entirely new system of mechanics.

And the graphics HAVE improved. You just aren't looking for it. The lipsync has been tightened and polished, super mutants don't look like lipless, drooling fools, the ugly green fliter has been removed (which was the Fellout mod)...

 

[BrionJames]

Bah! If you liked Fallout 3 I'm sure you'll enjoy this. If your upset because the upcoming game uses the same engine, then get out of town. New Vegas is going to look the same as Fallout 3 but there is still going to be plenty of new things to for players to sink their teeth into. Aside from that if you want a game to look different in the same engine your fooling yourself if you think Bethesda hasn't pushed this engine to the max, they always have with whatever one they're using, so don't be a fool, get this and enjoy it because it's going to be good.

 

[Andronicus]

Seeing as it's not part of the mainstream series, I don't mind so much that it looks so similar to Fallout 3. Besides, I loved pretty much everything about FO3, so more of the same is still godsent.

That said, I'd hope that when they release Fallout 4 ('coz, you know, as if they won't?), they try and shake things up a little. Having a wasteland in a Fallout game is pretty much guaranteed, and I know one wasteland can be much like the next, but hell, if they don't at least try, then they're not doing their job properly.

 

[Nitpicker of the Wastes]

Seeing as it's not part of the mainstream series

What? It is a part of the mainstream series.

 

[Daniel Armstrong]

I am aware of the changes to infrastructure of the game and obviously it will have a different story, play through, features etc. I'm talking about graphical representation; obviously the game is going to be running on the same engine, but I know a few games which use the same engine that have been able to push it further and further and produce products with different graphics, better animations etc. for example Half Life 2 managed to pull it off through the episodes and the games goes for Half Life 1 to Opposing Force, to Blue Shift etc.

For the time being I'm going to keep a look out on the game, hopefully it is better than I expect as I like Fallout, but please don't sound the fanboy alarm when someone starts to get an opinion.

So you're dismissing the game as bad just because the devs haven't improved on the graphics, when they've had just 2 years to make an entirely new system of mechanics.

And the graphics HAVE improved. You just aren't looking for it. The lipsync has been tightened and polished, super mutants don't look like lipless, drooling fools, the ugly green fliter has been removed (which was the Fellout mod)...

Who said anything about dismissing the game as bad? I made an opinion, never stated I thought the game was bad are is going to be bad, in fact I love Fallout, don't get me wrong when I say that. Especially if you were to look at my achievements and time played on Fallout 3 and in fact the whole series.

 

[The Austin]

I thought Fallout 3 was boring as shit, and Fallout: New Vegas looks exactly the same, so chances are, I'm going to avoid it.

Angry Joe and Spoony did a video where they talked about how New Vegas is the exact same thing as Fallout 3, and I don't blame them.

 

[Rakkana]

What's wrong with more Fallout 3?

 

[Irridium]

Well its being made on the same engine. So yeah there will be some big similarities. Plus Fallout 3 sold really well, so it makes sense they wouldn't want to change much in order to capture the same market.

But, this being an Obsidian game, I can guarantee you something. The game will be buggy as all hell, but the story will be absolutely fantastic. At least for the first 2/3 of the game.

 

[Nitpicker of the Wastes]

Who said anything about dismissing the game as bad? I made an opinion, never stated I thought the game was bad are is going to be bad, in fact I love Fallout, don't get me wrong when I say that. Especially if you were to look at my achievements and time played on Fallout 3 and in fact the whole series.

You called it "exactly the same as Fallout 3", which is an insult to all of the extensive changes. All of the fantastic new things are being swept under the far more important graphics. >:[

 

[Daniel Armstrong]

But, this being an Obsidian game, I can guarantee you something. The game will be buggy as all hell, but the story will be absolutely fantastic. At least for the first 2/3 of the game.

Quoted for the truth. Hopefully if it remains faithful to the series we can expect more RPG elements and some more of the stuff we all liked from Fallout 3.

You called it "exactly the same as Fallout 3", which is an insult to all of the extensive changes. All of the fantastic new things are being swept under the far more important graphics. >:[

I called it 'basically the same as Fallout 3' not exactly the same, there is a difference, trust me. If you were dev and showed me the footage of Fallout 3 and Fallout 4 without declaring the titles, it would be hard to notice that they arnt the same game.

Graphics don't make the game, gameplay does obviously, look at my statements, I'm not talking about the gameplay, the story, the fucking ammo system, I'm talking about basic similarity I'm talking about graphical wise because I don't have the game, I'm talking about graphics as in game like this, in my opinion has to make the biggest difference to encourage buyers pre-release.

 

[Outright Villainy]

Well Obsidian said they were tightening up the real time shooting controls. If that's true it'd easily be enough to set the game apart for me, as I felt the combat somewhat lacking in 3. More places to explore and more fun shooty times would be instant win for me.

That worries me - Obsidian has an awful track record when it comes to the mechanics of their games.

That may be true, but there's not a lot to mess up: I always found the gun control to be very stiff and awkward. I used V.A.T.S all the time anyway, so if it gets worse I'll continue not using it. *shrugs*

 

[Nitpicker of the Wastes]

But, this being an Obsidian game, I can guarantee you something. The game will be buggy as all hell, but the story will be absolutely fantastic. At least for the first 2/3 of the game.

Quoted for the truth. Hopefully if it remains faithful to the series we can expect more RPG elements and some more of the stuff we all liked from Fallout 3.

What?

Just... what?

Here I was, under the impression that you didn't like it being so similar to F3. Now you're saying that it will "remain faithful" to the series with more of the stuff we all liked from F3?!

 

[AWOL]

Just to be redundant, no matter where you take any Fallout game, its gonna look pretty desolate, so I'm not overly surprised that it looked similar. As for hype level, I'm probably more excited for New Vegas than any other announced game because I've absolutely loved Fallout 3 and all of Bethesda's work, and I'm excited to see what Obsidian does with the engine.

I'm predicting several hundreds of hours going into this one already, probably BECAUSE it looks so similar to Fallout 3.

 

[Andronicus]

Seeing as it's not part of the mainstream series

What? It is a part of the mainstream series.

Nah, they've said that it's more like a spin-off than a continuation of the main series. This is basically in the sense that it's not "Fallout 4".