Fallout New Vegas - basically the same as Fallout 3

[Daniel Armstrong]

Has the release date been announced yet?

 

[Plastic Muscles]

The only thing that stopped me playing Fallout 3 for the Seventh Time and for over 500 hours in total was the fact that I had run out of things to do I had done everything and all my other playthroughs (which were done on my current account) i've done a lot and played through multiple times. So a new area and some new weapons is all I need to make me buy this game.

 

[Viziroth]

You guys ever think that maybe there is too much content for this to be considered a DLC? I mean seriously, they release so many DLC's and now you think every new Fallout thing should just be a DLC... It's not like you don't pay for DLC's anyway.. if you don't want to get another disk just get a digital copy of the game... There! now it's DLC -.-

I mean, whole new map, new characters, new items, new systems, new story... hell, it takes place on the opposite side of the USA. Not to mention some of the original fallout team is working on it...

You guys were spoiled with DLC... then again, I guess FO3 didn't really have the freedom FO 1 and 2 had... I mean some people STILL play FO1&2 and they still haven't tried everything yet. But I mean obviously you've done everything possible in FO3 and it's pointless to launch a game with the same engine...

 

[ultimateownage]

What's wrong with that? And the game has new characters, settings, weapons, options, story lines and title, so the only thing the same is the engine and feel of the game. Why would you want a sequel to deviate from the one before it? Fallout 3 was brilliant.

We want the game to at least sound AND look different for it to be considered anything
other than an expansion pack.

"Left 4 Dead" to "Left 4 Dead 2" is a great example from this generation of gaming
of what should've been an expansion pack released as a full game.

Jesus christ I thought this Left 4 Dead bullshit died ages ago. Left 4 Dead 2 was fine has a stand alone game, that's like saying halo 2, 3, odst and reach should have all been expansion packs, because they only added new characters, missions, plots and weapons. Just because a game isn't completely different doesn't mean it isn't worth your money, get the fuck over it.

Except L4D2 COULD have been DLC, it just added the guns Valve promised would be added into L4D 1

Dude, it added a LOT more than just guns. The l4d argument is fatally flawed, it was enough to make it a new game. Not a full price game, but a game nonetheless. The rifles and primary weapons could have been DLC, but most of the rest couldn't have been.

Valve said day one "Within a month or two we will release content packs, and support the game into the distant future" They added -nothing-.
There are mods that bring the L4D2 special infected into L4D1, as well as the new guns. It could have easily been DLC, or at least a hald priced expansion.

No, it couldn't have. Because even if it doesn't look like it, these companies are about profit, and it isn't very profitable releasing ALL THAT has free dlc, and if it was dlc it would have been free, because that's what valve are like.

 

[hazabaza1]

And this is a bad thing... why?
Seriously, Fallout 3 was friggin' great.

 

[Mcface]

What's wrong with that? And the game has new characters, settings, weapons, options, story lines and title, so the only thing the same is the engine and feel of the game. Why would you want a sequel to deviate from the one before it? Fallout 3 was brilliant.

We want the game to at least sound AND look different for it to be considered anything
other than an expansion pack.

"Left 4 Dead" to "Left 4 Dead 2" is a great example from this generation of gaming
of what should've been an expansion pack released as a full game.

Jesus christ I thought this Left 4 Dead bullshit died ages ago. Left 4 Dead 2 was fine has a stand alone game, that's like saying halo 2, 3, odst and reach should have all been expansion packs, because they only added new characters, missions, plots and weapons. Just because a game isn't completely different doesn't mean it isn't worth your money, get the fuck over it.

Except L4D2 COULD have been DLC, it just added the guns Valve promised would be added into L4D 1

Dude, it added a LOT more than just guns. The l4d argument is fatally flawed, it was enough to make it a new game. Not a full price game, but a game nonetheless. The rifles and primary weapons could have been DLC, but most of the rest couldn't have been.

Valve said day one "Within a month or two we will release content packs, and support the game into the distant future" They added -nothing-.
There are mods that bring the L4D2 special infected into L4D1, as well as the new guns. It could have easily been DLC, or at least a hald priced expansion.

No, it couldn't have. Because even if it doesn't look like it, these companies are about profit, and it isn't very profitable releasing ALL THAT has free dlc, and if it was dlc it would have been free, because that's what valve are like.

So to avoid releasing paid DLC, they release a 60 dollar package of DLC and overcharge their fans? Yeah that actually does sound a lot like Valve, you are right.

OHBUTWAITTHARSMOAR, they DID release an awesome new map(as in ONE map) that was 2 levels long and lasted about 15 minutes. GO VALVE WOO.

 

[ultimateownage]

What's wrong with that? And the game has new characters, settings, weapons, options, story lines and title, so the only thing the same is the engine and feel of the game. Why would you want a sequel to deviate from the one before it? Fallout 3 was brilliant.

We want the game to at least sound AND look different for it to be considered anything
other than an expansion pack.

"Left 4 Dead" to "Left 4 Dead 2" is a great example from this generation of gaming
of what should've been an expansion pack released as a full game.

Jesus christ I thought this Left 4 Dead bullshit died ages ago. Left 4 Dead 2 was fine has a stand alone game, that's like saying halo 2, 3, odst and reach should have all been expansion packs, because they only added new characters, missions, plots and weapons. Just because a game isn't completely different doesn't mean it isn't worth your money, get the fuck over it.

Except L4D2 COULD have been DLC, it just added the guns Valve promised would be added into L4D 1

Dude, it added a LOT more than just guns. The l4d argument is fatally flawed, it was enough to make it a new game. Not a full price game, but a game nonetheless. The rifles and primary weapons could have been DLC, but most of the rest couldn't have been.

Valve said day one "Within a month or two we will release content packs, and support the game into the distant future" They added -nothing-.
There are mods that bring the L4D2 special infected into L4D1, as well as the new guns. It could have easily been DLC, or at least a hald priced expansion.

No, it couldn't have. Because even if it doesn't look like it, these companies are about profit, and it isn't very profitable releasing ALL THAT has free dlc, and if it was dlc it would have been free, because that's what valve are like.

So to avoid releasing paid DLC, they release a 60 dollar package of DLC and overcharge their fans? Yeah that actually does sound a lot like Valve, you are right.

OHBUTWAITTHARSMOAR, they DID release an awesome new map(as in ONE map) that was 2 levels long and lasted about 15 minutes. GO VALVE WOO.

No, the xbox version is over priced, the pc version is fine, and is being frequently updated, and goes on sale often. If you don't like the price, don't buy it, simple has that. Everyone who complains never bought it to see how good it was, you decided not to buy it and then endlessly ***** about how you want all your games free, with extra free stuff.

 

[Kevlar Eater]

Funny. The color spectrum of rust is replaced with that of dirt.

My problems with Fallout 3: starting with the VATS system. People had to rely on it far more than necessary. Even with maxed out [insert gun class], one still has the accuracy of a drunken dart thrower, but there are exceptions, weapon-wise. Ironically, the most inaccurate weapons were the sniper rifles, as they had the bullet spread of a minigun, but a third of the reliability. Even when fully repaired and shone like a gem in light, the gun still fired like shit. I hated being forced to have to use a sniper rifle within arm's reach of a foe (I had maxed out Small Arms, by the way). Oh, and Fallout 3 would have been much more awesome if the game (or maybe the engine) allowed us to aim down the sights of weapons, as opposed to hip-firing and its slightly zoomed version. I hope some of those problems are addressed in New Vegas.

 

[Mcface]

What's wrong with that? And the game has new characters, settings, weapons, options, story lines and title, so the only thing the same is the engine and feel of the game. Why would you want a sequel to deviate from the one before it? Fallout 3 was brilliant.

We want the game to at least sound AND look different for it to be considered anything
other than an expansion pack.

"Left 4 Dead" to "Left 4 Dead 2" is a great example from this generation of gaming
of what should've been an expansion pack released as a full game.

Jesus christ I thought this Left 4 Dead bullshit died ages ago. Left 4 Dead 2 was fine has a stand alone game, that's like saying halo 2, 3, odst and reach should have all been expansion packs, because they only added new characters, missions, plots and weapons. Just because a game isn't completely different doesn't mean it isn't worth your money, get the fuck over it.

Except L4D2 COULD have been DLC, it just added the guns Valve promised would be added into L4D 1

Dude, it added a LOT more than just guns. The l4d argument is fatally flawed, it was enough to make it a new game. Not a full price game, but a game nonetheless. The rifles and primary weapons could have been DLC, but most of the rest couldn't have been.

Valve said day one "Within a month or two we will release content packs, and support the game into the distant future" They added -nothing-.
There are mods that bring the L4D2 special infected into L4D1, as well as the new guns. It could have easily been DLC, or at least a hald priced expansion.

No, it couldn't have. Because even if it doesn't look like it, these companies are about profit, and it isn't very profitable releasing ALL THAT has free dlc, and if it was dlc it would have been free, because that's what valve are like.

So to avoid releasing paid DLC, they release a 60 dollar package of DLC and overcharge their fans? Yeah that actually does sound a lot like Valve, you are right.

OHBUTWAITTHARSMOAR, they DID release an awesome new map(as in ONE map) that was 2 levels long and lasted about 15 minutes. GO VALVE WOO.

No, the xbox version is over priced, the pc version is fine, and is being frequently updated, and goes on sale often. If you don't like the price, don't buy it, simple has that. Everyone who complains never bought it to see how good it was, you decided not to buy it and then endlessly ***** about how you want all your games free, with extra free stuff.

I want all of my games free? No. I paid full price for L4D 1 and enjoyed it, but it wasn't worth the price content wise. I pirated L4D2, and am glad I didn't spend any money on it, because it's not worth full price.

 

[ultimateownage]

I want all of my games free? No. I paid full price for L4D 1 and enjoyed it, but it wasn't worth the price content wise. I pirated L4D2, and am glad I didn't spend any money on it, because it's not worth full price.

Well, if you didn't want it free, you wouldn't have pirated it. Piracy is inexcusable, no matter how little you think the game is worth. You can't just take a game because you don't feel like paying for it, that's like stealing food because you don't think it's healthy enough to buy for full price. Either buy it or don't. You want it? Go get it on sale, don't be an arsehole and take stuff illegally. You just lost all respect I had for you. Piraters shouldn't be allowed to stay on this site, you're ruining all respectability in this industry.

 

[Nitpicker of the Wastes]

Has the release date been announced yet?

Now see, there goes all of your credibility. If you had watched any of the E3 videos (which you said you did), you would have heard J.E. Sawyer or Jason Bergman or Chris Avellone or Larry Liberty tell you. (In addition to all of those features that Spoony, I, and a bunch of the other posters mentioned.)

It's coming out on October 19th.

 

[Bland_Boy]

No, what's wrong with the industry is developers who make half-assed or even quarter-assed
games.

When 95% of the games released we really could do without, it's not helping the industry's respectability.

Once in 10 years you may get a videogame that can compete with the best movies in terms of storytelling and therein plots.

 

[Mcface]

I want all of my games free? No. I paid full price for L4D 1 and enjoyed it, but it wasn't worth the price content wise. I pirated L4D2, and am glad I didn't spend any money on it, because it's not worth full price.

Well, if you didn't want it free, you wouldn't have pirated it. Piracy is inexcusable, no matter how little you think the game is worth. You can't just take a game because you don't feel like paying for it, that's like stealing food because you don't think it's healthy enough to buy for full price. Either buy it or don't. You want it? Go get it on sale, don't be an arsehole and take stuff illegally. You just lost all respect I had for you. Piraters shouldn't be allowed to stay on this site, you're ruining all respectability in this industry.

No, this industry shoveling out generic shit while fan boys lap it up like their mothers milk are runing this industry. I won't pay full price for mediocrity. If the game was worth it, I would have bought it. It wasn't, and I haven't played it since. I gave valve a chance with L4D 1 at full price, they lied and didn't continue to add to an unfinished game, therefor I'm not going to put my trust in them to deliver a second time, and I was right about that.

 

[Sub_Soldier]

Notice how I said LOOKS like a DLC. I'm actually pretty excited for both Fable 3 and Fallout: New Vegas.

 

[AWOL]

I really don't understand all the hate on the "color spectrum" of New Vegas/Fallout 3 or whatever you wanna call it. We really can't have a post-apocalyptic setting thats vibrant and colorful, it just wouldn't make any sense. And about the brown vs. orange thing, the Mojave Desert is very orange.

Oh, and Fallout 3 would have been much more awesome if the game (or maybe the engine) allowed us to aim down the sights of weapons, as opposed to hip-firing and its slightly zoomed version. I hope some of those problems are addressed in New Vegas.

Pretty sure this has already been confirmed, but I can't find the link.

 

[Daniel Armstrong]

Has the release date been announced yet?

Now see, there goes all of your credibility. If you had watched any of the E3 videos (which you said you did), you would have heard J.E. Sawyer or Jason Bergman or Chris Avellone or Larry Liberty tell you. (In addition to all of those features that Spoony, I, and a bunch of the other posters mentioned.)

It's coming out on October 19th.

Why are you always trying to big up yourself vs other users, I did watch the videos, excuse me If I dont watch the whole ending of the videos for example; Xbox 360! Jump In! Then wait to see 2 second clip of the release date.

 

[Legion]

I don't recall anybody making this complaint about Fallout 2 when it worked almost exactly the same way as Fallout.

Or Gears of War 2 in relation to Gears of War.

Or Halo 3 in relation to Halo 2.

Or Modern Warfare 2.

Or Half Life Episode's 1 and 2.

Or many for Left 4 Dead 2 (Not enough to actually affect sales that is).

 

[Nitpicker of the Wastes]

Why are you always trying to big up yourself vs other users, I did watch the videos, excuse me If I dont watch the whole ending of the videos for example; Xbox 360! Jump In! Then wait to see 2 second clip of the release date.

You watched the videos, but didn't watch the 2 seconds of release date information, then decided to ask the Escapist about the release date.

Couldn't you have, I don't know, just gone back to watch the two seconds of video?! You could have answered that question 5400+ times in the time it took to respond to my post.

 

[Bland_Boy]

I don't recall anybody making this complaint about Fallout 2 when it worked almost exactly the same way as Fallout.

Or Gears of War 2 in relation to Gears of War.

Or Halo 3 in relation to Halo 2.

Or Modern Warfare 2.

Or Half Life Episode's 1 and 2.

Or many for Left 4 Dead 2 (Not enough to actually affect sales that is).

Fallout 1/2 have the excuse that they didn't have multi-million dollar budgets.
And you don't recall, because you don't want to.
There have been many similar complaints of sequels like these for 10 years or more.

 

[Lamppenkeyboard]

Same thing, different characters, different areas, different story. If you can wrap your head around that.