Fallout talk

[Laser Priest]

I recently returned to Fallout 3 after playing New Vegas.

God, I forgot how terrible Bethesda's grasp of human speech is. The dialogue in Fallout 3 is significantly more of a punishment than its Deathclaws.

 

[C95J]

EDIT: Not sure what Fallout: Tactics is, but I might give that a go as well.

Fallout Tactics is a mission driven game that has a similar conceit to Icewind Dale. You create a player character and then you recruit (from a list) 5 additional characters. You then go on missions for the Brotherhood of Steel. Non-combat interactions are largely minimized and combat situations themselves have been dramatically ramped up to compensate for the larger character count. The game also included a new semi-real time system. You still spent and generated Action Points but combat happened simultaneously on both sides. The action points themselves simply determine how quickly one fires their weapon.

It had the weakest narrative out of the old games by a fair margin but it was the one I most preferred to play.

Cool, I might give it a try after I've played a bit more Fallout. Thanks for the info

 

[.No.]

Don't feed the Yao Guai.

That is all.

I still remember the first time I ran into a Yao Guai in Fallout 3. I was about to get to Rivet City (I think) and hadn't saved the game for a while. I heard it, and noticed I was losing health. I pulled out my combat shotgun thinking " That attacker isn't going to know what hit it." I turned around, and started yelling in terror while firing a few rounds. It didn't help.

 

[LookingGlass]

I didn't find Dogmeat in my fast-travel-filled first playthrough of Fallout 3. I found him within about 2 hours this time without looking.

But he kept dying and annoying me so I sent him to Vault 101 for being a bad dog.

.... What? Do you have the brotherhood of Steel DLC? If so, then you're making a mistake. He levels up with you, and by the time you hit level fifteen, he can practically solo multiple deathclaws. By the time you're level twenty, you can fire mini-nukes at him and he won't die.

I don't have any DLC.

Will he have leveled up with me even though I've left him at the Vault for about 10 levels? Or is he just going to be crap forever now? I found him at level 3 or 4 and I think I'm at 13 or 14 now.

He only levels with you if you have the BoS DLC. Although, even without it, he can be useful seeing as how you can take both him and a different follower with you.

I must admit, until you said this, I had no idea that you could even recruit followers/companions in Fallout 3. I didn't realise that feature of 1 and 2 had made it in. I might have to go looking for one.

 

[ks1234]

Fallout 3 is the best title in the series. So many people complain about it but I seriously think it was the best game in the entire series... Damn "ruining the lore" or the story, etc. etc.

You better be trolling...

Not even a little bit

 

[5t3v0]

Fallout 3 is the best title in the series. So many people complain about it but I seriously think it was the best game in the entire series... Damn "ruining the lore" or the story, etc. etc.

You better be trolling...

Not even a little bit

*Insert rage post about you not knowing what is truly garbage... etc. In full capitals with lots of explicit language*

WARNING! TL; DR AHEAD

But seriously, Fallout 3 wasn't. It was poorly written and poorly balanced. The Poorly written part Isn't even complaint about the lore breakages (Though I have MANY of those), its just clichéd, predictable and restrictive with no real freedom apart from choosing to do nothing or unwittingly poison the wasteland because some computer told you that the virus you were inserting was beneficial. Its also senseless, why, if you follow the quest line with bad karma due to you doing things like blowing up megaton, selling a kid off to slavery, etc. Do you still follow what your dad wanted you to do? I mean sure, he is your father, but if you were that much of a dick your dad would probably be the next on your list of people to kill and/or maim. And the NPC's. Paper cutouts if they were anything. Fawkes was the only follower to have any substance, but even then that was lost on me, Everyone else had 5 seconds of backstory before they just faded into a (semi) friendly raider, a BoS paladin, a pissed off ghoul, a robot, and a slave with privelages. Though Moira Brown and some of the enclave were redeeming features to an otherwise bland cast

Obsidian Did a better job with New Vegas, bugs aside. Damage Threshold for armour had a much needed return, Weapons were expanded upon, Perks weren't chosen every level so you actually had to think about your choices and Enemies were actually challenging (see FNV Deathclaws, Cazadors and the BIGGER deathclaws)for a great deal. The writing actually allowed you for freedom and you didn't feel like you were on some sort of rail network. The characters were done nicely. Background characters and even offscreen characters had more substance than the Follower NPC's, take Randall Clark (the survivalist) from Honest Hearts for example, The Follower NPC's were done nicely in that regard as well. Its funny. Extra credits talked badly about Fallout New Vegas, but it fit in more with the content they talked about in other episodes than Fallout 3 did, such as the inclusion of non-stereotypical Homosexual characters (Arcade ganon and Veronica), and choices having a true effect.

But no. Fallout New Vegas fell into the pit of "Its just like Fallout 3, But shit because its not bethesda" Fan Dumb. it didn't help that Bethesda rushed it out the door last year as well.

Another thing. while I have beef with Fallout 3, I do love it. It was my first Fallout game, and through it and the fallout wiki, I discovered the entire franchise. Its just now I have new Vegas, its needless to me, as New Vegas fits in with both lore and accessible gameplay for a young mind like mine.

 

[Jack_Uzi]

If a deathclaw claws death, claws death a deathclaw?

 

[Troublesome Lagomorph]

I have only played Fallout 3 and New Vegas. Is it worth buying Fallout off Steam? You know, the one that was released in 1997. Is it a fun game to play? How different is it from the ones I have played?

Its VERY different, but its really damn good.

Now, if it just didn't hate my graphics card, causing irritating color errors all over the place...

 

[chinangel]

I loved new vegas, especially RPing my character out. My character (in my head) was a bit of a jaded mercenary girl who preffered to be able to move quickly, so she wore things like the mercenary vet clothes and used the cowboy perk. it was a LOT of fun

 

[VileTerror]

    Glad to see Tactics getting a little love around here! It was actually my first solid introduction to the series/franchise, and it had a fairly decent editor attached to it. Sure, it was insanely light on the roleplay elements and entirely combat focussed, but you could modify the game to insert diplomatic options in various missions. Or just modify the first map to give you a 'magic level up potion.'

    There are also the complaints about it being only semi-canon. Way I see it: Whoever has the I.P. rights at the moment is sitting on some fantastic potential to bring the divergent elements together! Those hairy deathclaws in Tactics? I say they're deathclaws in name only, but come from the same government-run genetics program which spawned the reptilian deathclaws we see in the west. Naturally the Brotherhood calls those mammalian monsters "deathclaws" since they look strikingly similar to the old killer lizards back west.
The Pentagon had some of the more successful reptilian deathclaws shipped over, and that explains their presence in Fallout 3. They could also introduce avian 'deathclaws' and the wendigos of Fallouts 1 and 2 could be the cephalopoidal 'deathclaws' (which apparently died out, consider I didn't see any in New Vegas [still haven't finished it or got the DLCs, mind you]).

    Vault 0? Who's to say it WASN'T promoted as being the nexus of the Vault Network. We all know VaultTec isn't above lying. Strikes me as entirely plausible that VaultTec and the u.s. government agreed to put all the politicians and celebrities they'd rather not survive through the war in there, and the place was never intended to work.
"Oh yes. You'll be perfectly safe in Vault 0. No, we forgive you for those education reform policies you were trying to push. Trust us. You'll be fiiiiine."

    The issue with Tactics not following the dieselpunk-glory-age-turned-apocalyptic-wasteland themes . . . well, yeah. That was a fairly large failing there. It was set in Chicago, but they missed HUGE opportunities for gangster-style material and good old jazz and blues. And the humanoid robots didn't jive with the rest of the setting either . . . but I think there's still some potential available!

 

    In short? I hope they tweak canon just enough to make Tactics part of the overall world story, since it wasn't a /bad/ game, and certainly more deserving than that /other/ Fallout game That Shall Not Be Mentioned.

 

Edit: Oh, and do NOT buy any of the old Fallout games off of Steam. Go to Good Old Games ( http://GOG.com ) instead. No DRM and you don't need to run third-party software to play single-player games. They also give you free games occasionally and have better sales. I got about 15 Interplay games for $30 during one sale, and I got to pick and choose just the /good/ titles.

 

[Suijen]

The people who hate on Fallout Tactics hate on it because it's not Fallout 3, when it's really just a tactics game in the Fallout universe. It uses a more mature version of the Fallout combat system also.

 

[ChupathingyX]

The people who hate on Fallout Tactics hate on it because it's not Fallout 3,

That's also sadly one of the main reasons people don't like New Vegas.

Unfortuneately I still haven't been able to play Tactics because for some reason it didn't work on my copy of the Collection but I do intend to play it.

 

[Suijen]

^ Ha, yeah I did that too. Just sit back and have some popcorn.

 

[TheDooD]

Then two bears hi-five a nuke goes off and an old man gets his beard.

 

[Dr. wonderful]

Fallout 1 was buggy as shit, but I refuse to believe that the vault dweller is dead caused He was too fucking awesome.

I also want to find out where is the Vault dweller buried at.

EDIT:

OH, I not done yet, not even by a mile.

The courier? Is a fucking badass and I love him (yeah, it's a guy on my playthrough!)

Fallout 3 was a damn good game, and I love it so very much.

Marcus was my favorite buddy from Fallout 2
Boone was my favorite from New Vegas, The VA? Was in Fallout 2 and he played that stupid nerd who invented Jet.

Yeah, that Nerd.

PICTURE RELATED.

 

[Mr. Google]

Patrolling the mojave almost makes you wish for a nuclear winter.

Thank you, I just laughed out loud very loudly to myself at 12:15 at night.
That is my favorite quote of the random people

OT: I was the kind of person who would sacrifice his dog and veronica to the death eaters while I sat back and shot at them with my Anti-Material rifle and just sorta ran when they died. Hey what works works!

Captcha: These video ones need to stop. I just wanna post a comment don't make me watch an ad. what the hell.

 

[Mr. Google]

*snip*

Yeah Im with you on this. In one night I read all of the FO and FO2 stories and realized just how pointless FO3 really was. I liked the game but once I played New Vegas it just couldn't compare. There were so many choices and such a good challenge. I mean SO many choices wow...Ive beaten the game 4 times now and I havn't gotten closed to all the ways I could beat it.

 

[Pegghead]

Fallout 3 and New Vegas are amazing games that have given me hours of entertainment, I shall never forget stepping out into the Capitol Wasteland with the glare of the sun and the swelling of music signalling the start of a long and varied adventure.

Fallout 1 and 2...uh...well, I still kind of need to give them my best shot. I bought a best-of collection a while back which had 1, 2 and Tactics (for only around 10 bucks!) and despite the fact that I need to re-install them it seemed like every decision I made was the wrong one.

 

[Echo136]

Even though New Vegas has better stuff, I still liked Fallout 3 better. The reason was because the idea of the Fallout series was that it was a nuclear apocalypse. In Fallout 3, you could spend most of your time exploring empty wastes, bombed neighborhoods, and creepy subway tunnels. You could go for over an hour before spotting another living thing (and even then it's a 5% chance that the living thing feels like not killing you). Fallout 3 gives the impression that all of society has completely stopped giving a shit and the only humans left alive are assholes, more tolerable assholes, and murderous psychopaths. Fallout New Vegas felt like I was playing an old west game with the occasional laser rifle.

Im glad Im not the only one who has this opinion.