Fallout: The Old Days

[NickCooley]

I played FO2 after I played FO3 to see what all the fuss is about. I've gotta say I think some people need to take of the nostalgia glasses. Because it wasn't that great. Good game don't get me wrong. But I didn't think it was the "masterpiece" I've heard it lauded as.

 

[Funkysandwich]

Yep. Being able to specifically target the groin made for many lol's in FO 1&2.

Turn based, annoying slow combat was one of the great features in the old fallouts. We all know what happens when you try to speed fallout up, you get fallout tactics, and no one wants that.

 

[Bobbovski]

Fallout 3 is an ok game, but doesn't really feel like a Fallout game.

Fallout 2 is one of my favorite games.

Fallout feels a bit too old nowadays. It feels like an imperfect version of Fallout 2.

Fallout 3 would have been soo awesome if it had been more like Fallout 2 but with improved graphics and a new storyline.

 

[Quad08]

Fallout 1 and 2 were awful, and no ammount of nostalgia will save them. There. I said it. The interface is atrocious, the combat is... Interesting at best... And the whole idea of turn based hex movement should be left with cheap tabletop games where it belongs.

Agreed. I find Fallout 3 to easily be the best in the series so far. Greatly looking forward to see what they do with New Vegas

 

[Meggiepants]

I love Fallout 3. I also love Fallout 1&2. I played them close to the time they were released and thought they were awesome.

I don't feel like Bethesda ruined Fallout 1&2. I can still boot up my PC and play those games if I want to. Fallout 3 is just set in the same universe. If you don't think of it as a sequel, I think you'll feel better about it.

If for nothing else, I have to thank Bethesda for reviving the series. Fallout 3 sold very well. There hadn't been a Fallout game in ages. And now a new one is planned to be released this year. I love that the Fallout universe is back with new places to visit.

And Fallout New Vegas can't come soon enough for me.

 

[Hallow'sEve]

This [http://www.vgcats.com/comics/?strip_id=53] comic sums up rather well my opinion of people still rallying behind the old Fallout.
I agree with Chipperz, Fallout 1 & 2 were terrible and completely unplayable by modern standards.

 

[Antari]

I think its more a gauge of the kinds of games that were popular at the times. Back when the origional Fallout's were released RTS and Turn Based Strats ruled the market. Today its the FPS with a large sandbox ... thats why Fallout 3 was made like it is. Going with market trends... its definately not origional thinking, but it seems to work for them.

 

[boyvirgo666]

ok look. fallout 3 ruined nothing. on its own merits its a great game. but when you start comparing any sequel to what came before your just going to ruin everything for yourself. so look if you dont like it, dont play it. but seriously when you go and just mess around in fallout 3 and have fun with the clever and very fun areas outside the main story you see the greatness fallout 1 and 2 had. but fallout 1 and 2 also had to work harder in the story to get the message across, 3 doesnt have that issue so the feel is obviously different

 

[QuadrAlien]

When they first released Fallout it was RTS and turn-based.

I like the first fallout because once you actually found the waterchip you were free to explore and do as you pleased. You just had to have some pretty good skills when it came to talking to people and asking the right questions. Or just randomly stumble upon some ghouls.

RTS and turn-based are somewhat opposites though, as RTS means real time, rather then turn based, that was what I was trying to say.

Indeed - one of these days I'm going to get suspended after going berserk at someone with a rant along the lines of "Turn-based strategy! Not RTS! The two are an important distinction! I can't take it anymore!"

However, here I have a far more acceptable way of irking the original poster. Do you, perchance, remember Fallout: Brotherhood of Steel?

 

[NeutralMunchHotel]

I played and beat Fallout 3 within a couple hours,

I'm sorry, but you lost me right here. A couple of hours? You're doing it wrong, as a great /b/tard once said. There is no way that the main quest can be completed in this length of time, much less any sidequests. If what you say is true, it's obvious you didn't give it much of a chance.

 

[Mekado]

I like FO3, i loved fallout 1&2 but after many drafts,tries and abandon, it's good to see a fallout game.Obviously it's not the same genre as the first 2 but it's a pretty decent FPS/RPG imo.

The era of turn-based combat is pretty much over i think, farewell original fallout,x-com&cie...

Oh and i actually liked fallout tactics, i guess i'm one of the rare ones...

 

[lacktheknack]

Mods mods mods mods mods mods mods. They change the tone of the game so much.

I liked Fallout and Fallout 2 better, but at least I actually FINISHED Fallout 3 (and modded the hell out of it).

I'm actually looking forward to New Vegas, if only to mod it for realism and play on Hardcore mode, just to see how real games can REALLY get.

 

[The Warden]

Stop thinking of it as a sequel is all I can give you.
I mean, it's set in a different part of the country a long time after the first two and contains next to no ties to the originals stories.

Also, I have to say that you claiming you beat the story in 'A couple of hours' is next to impossible, and the only way I can think that someone could manage that is if they didn't bother with most of the main plot, googled where Dad was, and just went from there, and in that case, you aren't playing the game right.

 

[Lenny Magic]

Just ignore it then, Fallout 1 & 2's stories wrap up rather nicely, so it is not like you need to play them to find out what is going on. But at least you played it, so have a cookie for giving it a try

 

[AnonymouZero]

You people need to stop bitching about a game that was released 13 years ago, seriously, no one cares anymore. Grow up.

quoted for epic truth.... even if whiners never learn/grow up.


OT:... lul!

 

[DocBot]

Did we all forget Fallout: Brotherhood of Steel? The real reason any of Fallout 3 happened is cause Black Isle was pulling a Duke Nukem Forever with Fallout: Van Buren and eventually needed to sell the rights as they and Interplay had...well...no money. So when Bethesda bought it they could try to continue with the Van Buren project and completely mess it up due to the time a resources they have are not for that kind of game. Or they could put it on the same engine as Oblivion and do one thing they do very well: write. Bethesda is very good at writing, they really did alot to make the wasteland and the people in it something you have to see for yourself. When you first go into Little Lamplight, or find The republic of Dave alot of it is in who you talk to and what you notice for yourself. Assumption and Listening basically give you alot of the story. The Tenpenny tower good karma mission has one of the more interesting twists I've seen as well. While the first Fallout games by Black Isle were very heavy on the main story Bethesda made a game as they always do, where you can do the main quest, but you won't get a feel of why these games are so great unless you go and walk around a bit. the old way of doing things should be back with new Vegas. if you're complaining about Gameplay, whelp, should've donated your milk money to Black Isle and Interplay while you had the chance.

 

[Remag]

The games have different emphasis and focus. The original Fallout games put more attention into storytelling, dialogue, humor, and writing than Fallout 3, resulting in a game that was clever and engaging. The new Fallout emphasized exploration and discovery more, rewarding players who wandered about the Wasteland.

They are both good in their own rights, and depending on the type of game you enjoy, can be very fun (I personally can forgive poor gameplay elements if the writing is good, so I am a bigger fan of the original Fallout and Fallout 2 versus the new Fallout 3).

In all honesty, despite being related, they really can't be compared to one another.

 

[Henrik Persson]

Why is everyone talking about gameplay, RTS, TBS (It's turn based tactics btw) and whatnot? I don't think there's a lot of people who would argue that Fallout 1 & 2's gameplay is vastly superior to 3's (except those who hate Fallout 3 just because). What the first two had was a world inhabited by actual people, you know ones who can actually produce an interesting sentence. It also had a ton of humor and a story you actually cared about. This is what Bethesda fucked up. If that's not important to you, then the first two won't come off as masterpieces and if you don't like TBTs, you'll probably dislike them.