"Family Values" Groups Launch Email Campaign Against BioWare

[The Lugz]

gay couples = less overcrowding.

big picture people.

in other news since apparently 'kids' play mmo's now i guess it's time to take out all the random murder psychopathically long quest and pvp grinds so they can get their naps in

'wont somebody please think of the kids' yep, simpsons did it first.

In reality, according to the Bible, homosexuals are going to Hell, it's a fact. It's not a matter of personal judgement, it's just plain fact.

Dude, you just discredited your whole statement. Since when is bible fact? You're honestly telling me some 300 year old man gathered two of every animal into a single boat and that's historically correct?

actually, 2 of every animal would render any boat made of tree sized planks impossible just on mass and pressure plus you'd need large enclosures for each type of animal and more food than i could well imagine
however, if you made a flotilla of smaller ships the size of a small continent the animals may survive!

 

[seiler88]

I'm a Christian and I really don't care about this.

As for why these groups are making a stink here is the Christian answer. People are sinful and that manifests in many as a compulsion to control everyone else. People who really don't believe in Christianity use the label to as a means to rationalize their behavior. If they were to look at themselves and repent of their own sin they would stop being so obnoxious.

So everyone is a little bit racist and a little bit Sith.

 

[TheScientificIssole]

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Come on. Seriously? I stopped believing in the bible because of people like this. Not only because of how ridiculous it is to me, but because the bible illustrates a reality that I do NOT want to support.

 

[game-lover]

It seems people are still suffering from the same old misconception about animated things.

Like just because something is called a cartoon or videogame, everyone assumes it was made for children or all ages...

 

[A-D.]

If i was working for Bioware, which i am not, but in this case it would certainly be very fortunate if i were, i would simply solve the Problem thus:

I would let them write their Emails, Letters, recieve their angry Phone Calls and everything, lets say for a couple Weeks, save and document every single Thing. Then i would pick out the best Emails, Phonecalls and such after those few weeks, create a Poster, Video or otherwise a Message and use that as a Ad, with the following Tagline:

"Due to the tremendous Support of our Players, Fans and the various Family Value Groups of America, we have decided to hasten our intent to include fully optional Same-Sex Marriages and Partnerships to our successful MMO The Old Republic. We have been talking about it internally for a while without coming to a clear decision on the matter but your unwavering Support has helped us see what is right and we are doing our best to include the Feature that so many of you have wished for."

While also displaying every single angry Mail, Phonecall and Letter picked beforehand as the Ad is playing.

 

[SnakeoilSage]

Apperently Luke and Leia kissing is not concidered an offence to "family values" . Figures, that's nothing but family.

Look up the story of Sodom and Gomorrah. "Sodomy" comes from the old tale but refers to anal sex as unnatural, either homosexual or heterosexual (funny how those "traditional marriage" quacks don't bring up the latter).

The story also involves Lot and his family, who flees the fate of the two cities, only for his wife to be turned into salt, and his daughters - worried that their family line will die with Lot - get him drunk and seduce him to bear him male heirs.

The whole point of the tale is a bit of an old, dirty joke, essentially the Hebrew's way of saying saying that Lot's descendants (the Moabites and the Ammonites) are a bunch of incestuous bastards (kind of a long, epic-sounding way of saying "I would have been your father but the dog beat me upstairs). As for why it's in the Bible, that's because shut up it is.

 

[TheFriskySpatula]

Don't look! Their ignorance is showing!

 

[elvor0]

Well they stuck to their guns and did it in Dragon Age Origins and I think 2, so I'm pretty sure they'll go through with it. What I'd like to see is them add an npc called Farmili Val-Yous spewing hate speech outside whereever it is people get married in Star Wars, just to take the piss.

Let me get this straight (no pun intended): violence, murder, mutilation and torture is apparently perfectly okay, but hints of sexuality and same sex relationships are not?

Welcome to the western world.

To be fair there's large sections of the eastern world that advocate the same thing, in a much worse fashion. Whereever you are in the world there's going to be nutters and zealots.

 

[Evil Smurf]

"American families grew up with the Star Wars film series that was family fare. The films contained no profanity, no nudity and no sexual situations,"

If you say so [http://www.beertripper.com/OffTopic/star_wars/ot_Princess_Leia_Organa_Carrie_Fisher_Bikini.html].

I'd love to hear a comeback from them regarding the above.

see this is what conservative people do all day

 

[Tentickles]

I bet you this organization doesnt realize that the Star Wars Lore includes many references to homosexuality.

Check this out: http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Mandolorian
It's under family.

Is "Impacting my children" with knowledge of other cultures a bad thing?

It's like learning about the Middle East... but omitting the wars that have happened in the past.

 

[MeChaNiZ3D]

Everyone in the organisations listed please just DIE. ALL OF YOU.

Having homosexuality in a game doesn't make players gay. It's not going to influence the kids' sexuality. That taken into account, what these ABSOLUTE FUCKWITS are against is tolerance of homosexuals. Which I see NO REASON to oppose. Besides, if you take the homosexual route in the game, it's YOUR OWN FAULT. It isn't forced upon you (although from what I've heard if your Shepard doesn't do it, a couple of your teammates will).

Lastly, the game is 16+ anyway, hardly the impressionalbe demographic these idiots make them out to be. Of course younger kids are going to play it, but when that happens, it's no longer my problem it's their parents'.

For the record, I hope every one of those morally outraged parents finds out that one of their own offspring is homosexual. That would be the best poetic justice ever.

 

[BigRig281]

I haven't read every post so apologies if anyone has already noticed this. When you click on the links for the Florida Family Association and American Decency Association you are brought to pregenerated emails to Bioware, but in the ADA one you can edit the contents of the subject and body. Could be fun to to completely re-write it. So I did. And here's how it goes:

"American families grew up with the Star Wars film series that was family fare. The films contained no profanity, no nudity and no sexual situations, but plenty of the violence that has no effect on children whatsoever. As a child I loved seeing Uncle Owen and Aunt Beru as burning piles of flesh and bone.

It makes a lot of sense that BioWare and Electronic Arts would diversify their games by including a usually underrepresented minority. This game being for teens is perfect as the only people who should be playing this game have already begun to make their decision to be gay or straight.

This Star Wars video game is not for children. Though an overwhelming percentage of the 1.7 million games sold are being used by children who should not be exposed to this if their parents do their job and only buy games suitable for their child's age.

I look forward to sharing your response with family and friends.

Thank you."

 

[chiefohara]

Florida Family association is a hate group. Reading their site they also had 'All American Muslims' pulled off the air on the learning channel because it showed 'ordinary folk' as opposed to the 'jihadist' we should all know and fear....

pathetic.

 

[Draconalis]

"American families grew up with the Star Wars film series that was family fare. The films contained no profanity, no nudity and no sexual situations,"

Actually... there IS nudity in Star Wars. It was an accident, but the actress being ate by the rancor's tit popped out during her struggle.

 

[Rinshan Kaihou]

So... Am I the only one to use the ADA email form to PRAISE EA and bioware for including same sex relationships? I typed in my own subject and message, praising them, and chastising the ADA for being morally backward, asking them to please join us in the 21st century. They weren't expecting THAT.

 

[Techno Squidgy]

We should set-up our own email thing and harass these groups of being so bloody stupid. I can't believe people still think gays will corrupt their children.

 

[RyoScar]

When will these douches learn that gay people exist and they'll need to bloody grow up at some point

 

[RyoScar]

Oh those "family value" groups and their bullshit

 

[Lybs]

So the concerned mothers of america are all homophobic? First the "the sideboob-hysteria" in Mass Effect and now this, is it just me or are this people RL-trolling on a whole new level of stupidity?

 

[BoogieManFL]

I hope they have fun wasting their time with this little e-mail crusade. No one gives a shit about you forcing your beliefs on other people. I'm heterosexual and I don't have a problem with it. I don't care what people do so long as it doesn't hurt anyone else, and I'd bet that's how most people feel. And if you don't then you're a close minded hate monger and no one should value your opinion simply based on that.



Facts:
It gives them a better reputation for appealing to a wider audience.
Proves they aren't giving in to people like you.
Shows they are adapting to the modern day, while you, are not.
Makes good business sense, more customers = more money.
More money, more and better products in the future.
It's their creation. If it's not illegal they can do what they want.


Do you boycott *every* book or movie that has homosexual aspects? No? The aspects of homosexuality in this game and Mass Effect 3 are OPTIONAL and you don't see anything about it if you don't CHOOSE TO. Simply being aware of it's existence is no different than reality. How this isn't painfully obvious already, is baffling to me.

Thus, you're wasting your time and just proving how close minded you are. No one cares.

Also, the wholesomeness of the Star Wars movies is justification for this? Really? Sure overall I agree they are tame too, but think about it. You saw a PLANET EXPLODE. BILLIONS DIED. Countless species gone just like that. People were choked to death, whole ships exploded, dismemberments, talk of the force like it's a religion, but watch out, their might be two dudes kissing! TO THE TORCHES AND PITCHFORKS!

So. Painfully. Stupid.