"Family Values" Groups Launch Email Campaign Against BioWare

[Irony's Acolyte]

Because homosexual relationships are so dirty and mature while heterosexual relationships are wholesome and not the slightest bit adult at all. Despite the fact that having a child straight up means the man and women did the dirty deed, bumped uglies, knocked knees, hid the snake, did the horizontal tango, etc. at least ONCE.

Then of course, these people wouldn't know hypocrisy if it bit them in the ass. Just another out-of-touch group complaining about things they have no experience with because they're stuck in the 18th century. At least the Amish go the whole way...

 

[samaugsch]

Good lord, game companies just can't win. If you include same-sex couples, "family-value" groups complain. If you don't, "gay-rights" groups complain. Either way, they're going to get shit from somebody. :/

 

[Piecewise]

Ah The Christian cycle of acceptance.

1.Outrage
2.denial/attempts to ban
3.Grudging acceptance that it exists but still disapproving of it
4.General acceptance
5.Support
6.Claiming that it's natural and anything else is perverse or wrong.
7.Claiming that they came up with it and that history is nothing but secularist lies.

Hey, anyone remember how a good chunk of the original christians were totally against marriage? How they were for Celibacy and virginity and freedom from family ties because it was more in line with the lifestyle of Christ? And how now marriage is a "Christian institution" that "liberals" without family ties are trying to ruin?

Ha ha, good times, good times.

 

[Revolutionary]

I really appreciate the sentiment of those first couple of paragraphs.

 

[WouldYouKindly]

Why is it whenever I see the words "Family Values" in the name of an organization I instantly think far right wackjobs who dream of a world where everyone is precisely like them?

 

[ReinWeisserRitter]

...As the rating on the box clearly states, your children, who probably aren't the close-minded arserags the people in charge of this nonsensical movement are proving themselves to be, shouldn't be playing this game in the first place.

Of course, none of them are rightly pointing the fingers at themselves for putting this so-called attack upon their family values in their childrens' hands. That would involve being accountable for one's own actions, and that's time that could be spent acting like a bunch of self-righteous pricks and looking down on others.

 

[Montezuma's Lawyer]

A religious group complaining about gays in video games?

I'm so freaking shocked...

 

[Steve Lovell]

so i got some emails from a family action group,



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One other tidbit I will add on ?tolerance?;



During the recent debate in Maryland on SSM, a 14 year old girl made a polite speech to the legislature regarding her views against SSM. Well guess what? She and her family have been relentlessly slandered and vilified beyond belief by LGBT activists, including death threats. How?s that for tolerance?



Ironically though not surprisingly, when one views the related forums, not one LGBT advocate condemns such behavior (well, ok, one person said the death threats were ?a bit much?); instead, they attempt to legitimize and justify it. Pathetic.



That has served opponents well though, as it highlights the ugly, hateful, bigoted, intolerant, and hypocritical underbelly of LGBT movement and it is getting more and more exposure.




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From: David Hartman [mailto:djhartm@nc.rr.com]
Sent: Tuesday, March 13, 2012 11:05 AM
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Subject: RE: Fuck you & your homosexual advocacy propaganda



Ah yes, the ?straight? LGBT ?sympathizer? who sees nothing wrong, unnatural, or perverted in vile, disgusting lifestyles that preach perversion and immorality on society. Nice to know that you support indoctrination of children to this disgusting lifestyle. Nice to know that your opinion forces those with religious opposition against homosexuality to cast aside their beliefs under the guise of ?equality?, but that is fine by you.



Hatred & bigotry?



Really?



You mean like all the business and properties that were vandalized in CA during the Prop 8 campaign by LGBT ?activists??



You mean like people that are targeted and discriminated against for opposing homosexuality?



Tolerance is hardly a word you and they live by; unless of course you share their same opinion.



The marriage amendment will pass, and I suggest you take some courses on law & civics, as you somehow, erroneously feel that LGBT ?rights? are equate to marriage; that argument is fatally flawed. Religion also has nothing to do with that fact either, though it is interesting that you bring that up, as the whole gay ?marriage? issue could have gone away had the phags gone the civil-union route which would guarantee equal rights of law, but that simply wasn?t good enough for them; they want social equality; something they will never have.



LGBT people may not be the enemy for you, but I certainly would have no qualms whatsoever discharging a few rounds from my LCP or XD-40 into a crowd of them. Their behavior at a NOM rally I attended at the Capital was despicable. The funny thing is though, that they all scatter like roaches when confronted physically.



That being said, though I disagree with you on this issue to the core, I salute your service ? I train with many current military & LEOs and have much respect for them.




David Hartman

1329 Wynncrest Court

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Subject: Re: Fuck you & your homosexual advocacy propaganda





Way to pass judgement on someone you know nothing about. I am a straight male, who has been married to a smart, reasonable, and tolerant woman for the past 9 1/2 years. We have a son together (conceived and born after our marriage). Which probably comes as a surprise to you, as you more than likely came to the conclusion right off the bat that we were married as a result of an unplanned pregnancy. I am also a veteran of the Iraq Wars. Served with distinction and honor. Foreign concepts to you, I'm sure. I was willing to lay down my life to defend the lives and rights of American citizens. Your hatred, bigotry, and intolerance demeans that sacrifice, and the sacrifice that others have paid for with their own lives. We swore to uphold the Constitution, not the Bible. Giving someone equal rights does not impede upon yours. It just makes it illegal for you to try and suppress theirs.The LGBT is not the enemy, never have and never will be. You, on the other hand are. As for your legislation that is on par with California's Prop 8, it will not pass. Why? Because it is unconstitutional. Religion has no place in government, it is, and should always be, a private part of people's lives. You claim to be followers of Christ, but from what I can see you are as far removed from his teachings of peace, unconditional love, tolerance, and acceptance as you can get. For once, see reason and stop your hate mongering. You divide us, you weaken us, you make neighbors into enemies. Stop this madness before you lead us down a path that will only lead to ruin.








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Subject: Fuck you & your homosexual advocacy propaganda







You sick ass-packing/****-slurping pieces of shit.





Your filth has no place in front of children. Love how you incorrectly (yet again) label opposition to your perversion as ?hate? speech. Another trite, tired old argument is the association of gay ?rights? with inter-racial marriage. Oh yes, then there is the ?argument? that such views are deprecated and not part of the modern world. Nice try, but all fail miserably in the logic (and reality) dept.





Hopefully a nice dose of AIDS/STD comes your way courtesy of your latest twink fuck.





If any of you fucktards are ever in NC, just let me know; I?d be more than happy to personally delivery my message.





You can all expect a lot of interesting email coming soon which I am sure you?ll enjoy when you pry yourselves away from your asinine gaming & perverse lifestyles.





BTW, here in NC, we are voting on a legislative amendment to the state constitution (which will avoid all the nonsense of CA?s Prop 8) which rightfully excludes LGBT perverts from marriage; it is expected to pass overwhelmingly. J





David Hartman


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[Steve Lovell]

good to know that they promote mature behavior

 

[MasterOfHisOwnDomain]

A long time ago, in a galaxy far, far away... and without any of those icky homosexuals ruining family values for everyone.

So including the option to pursue same-sex relationships is propaganda now? What ideology is it promoting exactly? Choice? Freedom? Or is this option just so obviously tantalising that the only way to stop our young minds being warped is by removing it altogether; stopping the temptation.

 

[jaing1138]

so i got some emails from a family action group,

Ah yes, the ?straight? LGBT ?sympathizer? who sees nothing wrong, unnatural, or perverted in vile, disgusting lifestyles that preach perversion and immorality on society.

We have dismissed that claim

Also lets not forget they forgot the forced imprisonment of civilians in detainment "camps", execution of unarmed prisoners, bisectioning and decapitation of enemies, animal cruelty, genocide (attempted and actual), child murder and staging a government coup they forgot to mention include as a part of star wars. Hell episode 1 pretty much straight up encourages gambling and cheating to get what you want and that is from a jedi

 

[Random berk]

LGBT people may not be the enemy for you, but I certainly would have no qualms whatsoever discharging a few rounds from my LCP or XD-40 into a crowd of them.

Hopefully a nice dose of AIDS/STD comes your way courtesy of your latest twink fuck.

If any of you fucktards are ever in NC, just let me know; I'd be more than happy to personally delivery my message.

Love how you incorrectly (yet again) label opposition to your perversion as 'hate' speech.

Uh... can I get a dictionary over here? Somebody doesn't seem to know what 'hate speech' means. It might be me, but I doubt it...

 

[Brawndo]

Christians are okay with violence because by some counts, God kills 2.5 million people in the Old Testament.

 

[axlryder]

man, the Escapist forums sure are boring these days.

 

[Insanely Asinine]

Here's the real question. Why aren't these parents being parents?

 

[Stu the Pirate]

Honestly it's really easy to show these people up. All Bioware would have to do is say "Yep. you can marry whomever you please in our game, and if you have a problem with that you're a horrible human being."

 

[darksakul]

So its "good old christian values" to hate those who are different from you instead of teaching children respect, tolerance, acceptance and love for your fellow person.

That is love for your fellow" as in friendship, get your minds out of the gutter.

If we want to get into a religious debate I understood it was Gods place to judge not ours.
If you don't want your child exposed to what is in the game, fine don't buy it as your rights as a parent, but stop this dictating what the rest of the world gets to see and do...

As no one under the age of 13 should be playing an MMO anyways. And teens already exposed to the existence of the concepts of homosexuality as its out there, it exist, teens are not as stupid as parents think.

 

[Naeo]

Well, "Family Values" has quickly become a synonym for "we hate all things gay and gay-related" (i.e. "we have a backwards, almost primordial, ignorant, hateful platform but we will shamelessly promote it to every extreme because we care way too much"), so this doesn't surprise me. Let's just not actually pay attention to these assholes.

Also, as has been said a hundred times in this thread already: if these people have a problem with it, don't let your kid have the damn game. But above and beyond that the implied claim that this is somehow ruining or degrading our society is horseshit.